Homeless Living In My Backyard

[Mar]

Who's ready for another Mar thread?

I have a strip of grass behind my house with a fence separating me from the businesses. The problem is there are actually 2 fences there and someone has taken up residency in between them as you can see from this photo I took out my window. I'm actually quite impressed with what they've built there, they have tarps on top and bottom with some hard substance for a floor. Everything is tied off to the trees and fence very nicely.

I called the police and the city before I went on vacation mid August. I just got back to Calgary last weekend and the tarps have been moved around but the people are still there. We phoned again a few days ago and last night I could hear them arguing with someone so I'm assuming that was the police coming to ask them to move on. We phoned the police again today and were told they can only ask the people to move on, they can't force the homeless to move. They also don't do anything if they come out and the people aren't there at that time and the city won't come out to take down the shelter until the police have removed the people.

We spoke to the 2 businesses there and they said they have called to complain multiple times, one of the business owners told us they see the couple doing heroin back there sometimes and the place is full of needles.

Now I realize I'm going to have to do something about this myself so I'm wondering if anyone here can recommend ways to get rid of them. Are there places in Calgary that sell smoke bombs? Are there services I can hire to force them to move? I don't like the fact these people have a close watch on when I come and go from my home and when my girlfriend is at home alone.

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[89coupe]

Turn your sprinklers on, keep it on 24/7. Nobody likes being wet and cold.

[ExtraSlow]

30 minutes every morning at 5am woukd suffice. Save some water.

[speedog]

I alsso thought of the sprinkler solution as well but at the same time what might be the consequences from said squatters?

[lilmira]

I alsso thought of the sprinkler solution as well but at the same time what might be the consequences from said squatters?

moisture is the essence of wetness, wetness is the essence of beauty. so...they'll turn into supermodels and no longer be poor?

[suntan]

Turn your sprinklers on, keep it on 24/7. Nobody likes being wet and cold.

Free showers, they'd never leave.

[speedog]

moisture is the essence of wetness, wetness is the essence of beauty. so...they'll turn into supermodels and no longer be poor?

I sometimes am moist but certainly that moistness has never evolved into the essence of beauty and moist certainly a super model I am not.

[ExtraSlow]

moisture is the essence of wetness, wetness is the essence of beauty. so...they'll turn into supermodels and no longer be poor?
You can derelicte my balls.

[ThePenIsMightier]

You can derelicte my balls.

Sorry you didn't Book It.
Maybe if you were an ambi-turner...

[Maxt]

At an old customers place, there were homeless people living underneath the loading dock. They were told to vacate, but they wouldn't. I had to install a 60 ton chiller, so we put it right next to the loading dock to make it as uncomfortable as possible for the dock dwellers. So I start the machine up and one of them comes out to ask me what this machine is, I tell him it's a scroll chiller and its very loud. The man then asks me why they weren't consulted on the installation and if I can do anything to mitigate the noise, I say "no" . The man asks me if the owners are going to help them find a new place to live, I inform he doesn't have a place, he is living under a fucking loading dock. Good luck Mar, these people aren't easy to deal with, and the cops don't want to get involved.

[mr2mike]

I thought you were Asian.
I'll bet there's a fish sauce solution in your near future.
Hurry while the weather is still hot.

[dirtsniffer]

Mar is a Newfie

[Tik-Tok]

Mar is a Newfie

So salted cod then

[blueToy]

How many are living there? Young/old?

[KrisYYC]

Mar do you own the piece of land they are squatting on? If you do then wouldn't they be trespassing?

[SJW]

Buy some liquid ass and toss it in there.

[D'z Nutz]

Just make sure they see you pull up in the Veloster. They'll be so embarrassed, they'll pack up and leave without drawing any further attention to themselves.

[arcticcat522]

1 - Burn the fence down
2 - blame them
3 -.....profit

[revelations]

The crack heads are there because

- dark
- isolated
- hidden from plain view
- quiet
- government has made it acceptable (laws do fuck all)

The Police should have given you advise on CPTED.

- setup lights to brighten their nights
- setup hidden high pitched sound, speakers (wont travel through walls and only short range)

[Buster]

Full test fentanyl?

[Sentry]

https://www.margosupplies.com/canada/scare-cannons

[J-D]

I think you just have to get creative, smoke bombs are a bad idea since the cops might actually do something to you for that. Maybe set up a compost with a bunch of disgusting rotten meat??

[mr2mike]

Good Idea. Start to attract skunks, mice and other critters to the site.

[spikerS]

I thought you were Asian.


Nope. He is white as white gets. I stumbled across a picture of him and his GF awhile back. Not sure if it is the current one, or one of the crazy exs, but I think I still have it around here somewhere.

[Buster]

really dirty would be broken glass.

[revelations]

find a needle dispenser and just dump a whackload of needles around there

[e31]

Unfortunately, this situation calls for you to bird seed your own immediate surroundings. Given enough "incentive" pigeons & seagulls would paint the ever-loving shit out of your yard.

[speedog]

Ages ago we used to use these special aerosol cans to test manhole gas detectors, the stuff they sprayed out smelled like the worst imaginable farts. I'm sure the O&G people in here know what I'm talking about, get some of that and liberally spray their living area while they're out. That should encourage them to move on. If they stick around with that stench in their living area then you're probably stuck with them.

[ExtraSlow]

That's methyl mercaptain. Not sure where you buy it. In spray cans.

[Homerrca]

I deal with crack addicts and homeless especially in the winter months at my condo. The police say to call them to kick them out but with them being busy, it can take up to an hour for them to arrive. When I need to get to work, I don't have time waiting so being 6 foot 8 and not being a skinny lad, I just scare the crap out of them and for the most part they don't come back. Get some biker dudes to stop by and "evict them"

Also where are the GF pics

[Xtrema]

I alsso thought of the sprinkler solution as well but at the same time what might be the consequences from said squatters?

Now you have to deal with them stripping naked for free shower?

[Rat Fink]

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[Xtrema]

Looks like the penalty is $150. CPS should roll in, issue every one of them a $150 fine, and give them a couple hours to clear their garbage or seize it all to prevent the commission of an offence. Problem solved.

Giving homeless a ticket, yeah that'll teach them.

Unless that's a hotspot of activity, cops won't care. Homeless has been setting up camps on a hillside off Cliff st among the trees at Mount Royal for years. Nothing has been done.

[bjstare]

Yeah, so if they aren't actually in your yard as per the thread title, there's nothing you can really do. Aside from make their lives miserable.

+1 for setting a sprinkler up to make them all wet.

[ExtraSlow]

I guess there's another question to be asked. Do you really need them to leave? Are they harming you?

[speedog]

I would not want Mar's situation in my backyard regardless of whether they were harmless or not.

[ExtraSlow]

i would not want mar's situation. ftfy

[Rat Fink]

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[ZenOps]

Calgary weather should make most tenters move on soon enough - assuming there is no global warming.

[austic]

Lights, Cameras then sprinklers at night should make it a chilly experience for them. Coordingate the attack with the bueinsess that are are also concerned. Make sure they have lights like the sun on them as well.

Maybe work on electrifying your fence perimeter in case they try a counter-attack.

I wonder if you could buy a wasp nest or something to toss in there. that would get them out.

[04Terminator]

Wireless motion lights and cameras.

Cockroaches love the dark.

[Tik-Tok]

Set up a hockey net right against that fence, and practice your shots every time you hear someone out there.

[speedog]

ftfy

I've met the man, he's okay.

[That_Nast]

Bear spray the tarps at night and just walk back into your place and keep your windows shut?? If they call the cops, say something about heroin being a hell of a drug and you have no idea what they're talking about.

[Buster]

Maybe they are just overlanding?

[Tik-Tok]

Maybe they are just overlanding?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Buster again.

[killramos]

Bear spray the tarps at night and just walk back into your place and keep your windows shut?? If they call the cops, say something about heroin being a hell of a drug and you have no idea what they're talking about.

Wcgw

[Mar]

Sound would annoy my neighbours too much and anything personally delivered to their residence would cause them to retaliate while I'm at work.


How many are living there? Young/old?
Looks like 2, a young guy and girl.


Mar do you own the piece of land they are squatting on? If you do then wouldn't they be trespassing?
I do not, it's just behind my fence. At least I assume I don't own that.

[adam c]

Maybe get a bunch of this and spray their stuff while they're out, would be hard to tell it was you and would just smell shitty

https://liquidass.com/

[nicknolte]

Wait until they leave to get drugs/food/whatever and then flood out the place with some sneaky hose placement

[ThePenIsMightier]

Leave them there and offer them money for doing things you don't want to like mowing the lawn, washing your car or shoveling snow.
Even better, if you're some kind of boss at your work, do that thing like from Trading Places.

[suntan]

Bumfights Vol 5: Mar's Revenge.

[blueToy]

I'm with the motion sensor light group and set up a camera to capture their movements. Do they sleep all day, prowl at night? Have you tried talking to them? Go and find out who they are, where they are from. What's their story. It may take some time, but keep trying. Try not to jump to conclusions, I know, easier said then done. Have you witnessed the drug use? Another thing to remember is that its almost mid september. Soon that white stuff will be gracing us with its presence, and unless they have some form of heat, they may move on.
Do you and your girlfriend know anybody with a bigger dog? Maybe someone here has a big Pitty or Rotti they can lend you. It might help them find a better spot.

[Disoblige]

Bird shot, buck shot, bird shot, buck shot, buck shot, buck shot!

[Buster]

Bird shot, buck shot, bird shot, buck shot, buck shot, buck shot!

Just make sure that's heroin and not meth!

[killramos]

Buy them bus tickets to Vancouver.


https://youtu.be/KdJQMnuYH9o

[schurchill39]

Buy them bus tickets to Vancouver.


https://youtu.be/KdJQMnuYH9o

Its what King Ralph would do (or Ontario I guess...)

[killramos]

Its what King Ralph would do (or Ontario I guess...)

Long live the King

[rx7boi]

Inb4 Mar does nothing with all of the above information and solves his problem by buying another Veloster.

[JRSC00LUDE]

Technically they won't be homeless until you take away their place of residence.

[BavarianBeast]

Go live with them for a few days and make a VICE documentary

[JfuckinC]

Go live with them for a few days and make a VICE documentary

This will require trying whatever drug it is they're doing though haha

[JRSC00LUDE]

This will require trying whatever drug it is they're doing though haha

With THEIR needles.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Whatever you do, make sure it can't be traced back to your house - the last thing you want is people with nothing to lose and immunity to most crimes mad at you.

Your best bet might just be to wait for the Winter to naturally remove them, and put something there so that it makes it a less desirable place to re-settle in the Spring. Maybe brainstorm with the neighbors/business owners - sounds like you all have a common interest.

[Mar]

This is getting to be quite the structure, they have a tarp on top, a tarp on the ground and some hard flooring laid down. There's another tarp going up next to this one now, it's turning into a dry channel all the way down.

So it seems like the only suggestions are a lot of unlawful things and to turn on the sprinklers. The sprinklers would be similar to the rain we got today and with the tarps, I really don't think they got wet. It's a pretty solid setup.


Bird shot, buck shot, bird shot, buck shot, buck shot, buck shot!

I laughed out loud at this.

[ercchry]

B3RJUMm-hd0

[darthVWader]

Fill that back area with with large rock. Talk to the mall owner and split the cost or something. Super hard to set up camp on large sharp rocks.

[ThePenIsMightier]

Become homosexual. Sign up for Grinder. Meet gentlemen at, near or leaning up against fence bordering the tent.
After you take a few Angry Dragons from a fat bear right in front of them, they'll not only leave, they'll clean their lives up and become devout followers of Jeebus.
A true win-win.

Watch out for da HIV...

[JRSC00LUDE]

This is getting to be quite the structure, they have a tarp on top, a tarp on the ground and some hard flooring laid down. There's another tarp going up next to this one now, it's turning into a dry channel all the way down.

So it seems like the only suggestions are a lot of unlawful things and to turn on the sprinklers. The sprinklers would be similar to the rain we got today and with the tarps, I really don't think they got wet. It's a pretty solid setup.



I laughed out loud at this.

In all seriousness, is this not something bylaw can start dealing with?

[killramos]

In all seriousness, is this not something bylaw can start dealing with?

Agreed, there has to be some kind of bylaw they are violating.

Or call the cops saying they are dealing drugs?

Key is find something concrete and illegal they are doing. Shouldn’t be that hard?

[JRSC00LUDE]

Bylaw usually has a more serious hard on for being dicks with authority than concert bouncers or traffic cops, I really think that's your golden ticket.

[killramos]

1 littering complaint. JAIL

[mr2mike]

Become homosexual. Sign up for Grinder.
Cut holes in fence. Attempt business idea until they leave.


Seriously, figure out what chemicals can melt tarp plastic.
Drizzle that on the tent when they're gone.

Rent a bobcat and a 6" tree chipper from Rogers rentall.
Drive bobcat through push into pile. Pick up pile. Drop into tree chipper.
Return rentals within the hour.

[AndyL]

A dozen esp32's with a 1s 150mah lipo, and a beeper buzzer or speaker (iPhone speaker modules are cheap)

Scatter around camp.

Randomly chip, beep, buzz, play Rick astley never gonna give you up wavs. Maybe some xvideos sound tracks.

Mesh network them (gotta love integrated wifi and BLE) so they're going off at random sometimes together often quiet. Should be able to get a solid week of annoyance off 100mah...

[Mitsu3000gt]

Police and Bylaw do literally nothing to deter the homeless from doing what they do. Tickets obviously don't work and I don't think being there is going to get them arrested - even if they did they would be out in no time and right back there. All they do is tell them to move along or take down their tarps, and they'll be right back up the instant the police leave. At my old condo we had to have crack heads kicked out of our parkade area several times a week by the Police, same general group of people every time, for the entire 7+ years I lived there. I wouldn't be surprised if they're still there as there as it was warm and there is never a consequence.

Putting a large physical impediment there during the winter when they have left for warmer accommodation is still the best solution IMO. If something is there that they can't move, they are going to find somewhere else.

[Skrilla]

Go dig up a few big ass Ant hills, dump them beside their "camp". Give it a couple days.

[never]

Buy a camper and leave it there so they have something nicer to stay in.

[mr2mike]

Go to mustard seed and tell everyone the sweet tent spot you found to sleep, hidden from everyone.
Let the hierarchy of the homeless sort it out.

[Nufy]

Go dig up a few big ass Ant hills, dump them beside their "camp". Give it a couple days.

Dump a few cups of sugar around there. The ants will show up them selves...

[vengie]

Call city of Calgary building and inspections.

Clearly not a permitted "structure", let them know it has been erected.

[Mar]

The cops showed up at 5am and there was a lot of yelling. It appears nothing has changed.


1 littering complaint. JAIL

They're actually throwing their empty food containers over the fence and into my yard now. There's more trash every day.

[ExtraSlow]

The cops showed up at 5am and there was a lot of yelling. It appears nothing has changed.



They're actually throwing their empty food containers over the fence and into my yard now. There's more trash every day.

So out of all the serious and helpful suggestions in this thread, do you have a plan yet?

[Thaco]

i vote for the plastic melting spray solution, or shoot holes in the tarp with a bb or airsoft from an inconspicuous location so they dont know its coming from you.... just to cause leaks, maybe hit them a few times for lolz

[ExtraSlow]

Subsonic .22 would make slightly larger holes......

[nismodrifter]

By-law should be all over this

[speedog]

The cops showed up at 5am and there was a lot of yelling. It appears nothing has changed.



They're actually throwing their empty food containers over the fence and into my yard now. There's more trash every day.

If they started throwing a shit into my yard, then the CPS, bylaw and my councillor would all be getting calls and continuing calls until the situation is corrected. Also start making 311 reports until it's fixed, be the squeaky wheel.

[z24_wheels]

It's a Mar thread. Here's gonna wait for ten pages, then act on none of these suggestions.

[Thaco]

so i reently went through something similar, i didnt post before because it wasnt resolved, but now it is so i'll tell the story

about 3 weeks ago, while walking to my bus stop i saw a bike parked at the back of a local business here, i thought it was odd because people like to steal bikes and this one was unlocked... then i noticed that there was an old sign, one of those big box lighted signs stores use, it was leaned up on the side of the building, obviously removed from service but never trashed, anyway there was a bunch of cardboard and tarps and stuff taped to either end of it making a bit of a tent, some homeless guy living there, so i put in a complaint on the 311 app as a general issue, then they closed that one and re-opened another classified as "commercial encampment" it sat like that for a couple weeks and today on my way home i noticed it had all been cleaned out, not sure if it was the city, the business, (or unlikely the inhabitant) that had removed it all.

[Super_Geo]

Set up a camera in you your back yard, I have a feeling things will escalate before they resolve themselves.

The colder weather will actually be an incentive for them to stay, given they’ve made a decent shelter for themselves. Unless it flooded in near freezing weather...

[littledan]

Wait for overnight frost and run the sprinkler and turn it into a giant block of ice

[Maxt]

When heading south on Blackfoot trail, just after crossing 46th ave halfway up the hill, check out the encampment on the right in the trees. It's getting pretty big, it's highly visible, city won't act until it's encroaching onto the road.

[Darell_n]

When heading south on Blackfoot trail, just after crossing 46th ave halfway up the hill, check out the encampment on the right in the trees. It's getting pretty big, it's highly visible, city won't act until it's encroaching onto the road.

That’s been there on and off for the 25 years I’ve been around Calgary. Didn’t some homeless guy blow himself up with a propane tank there a few years ago? I was doing work at the warehouse in front of the area.

[90_Shelby]

I called in an elaborate camp, 2 years ago, in the trees on Nose Hill and bylaw cleared them out fairly quickly.

[Maxt]

As I remember, something happened there and they cut all the trees back, but it's overgrown again now. Good location, they got a Tims to hit for breakfast.

[Lex350]

Wait for overnight frost and run the sprinkler and turn it into a giant block of ice

oooh....i like this one.

[Tik-Tok]

Really, he just needs to flood the area. When they aren't around to see you, hide a hose leading close enough but not easily visible and turn it on. Not full blast, but enough that it'll soak the area over a few days.

[killramos]

It’s shocking to me that these days we can’t even get scumbags arrested up for shooting up drugs in an alley on the regular and leaving needles everywhere.

But drive in the wrong lane down Center st at the wrong time and they have an hour long sting setup.

[Tik-Tok]

It’s shocking to me that these days we can’t even get scumbags arrested up for shooting up drugs in an alley on the regular and leaving needles everywhere.

But drive in the wrong lane down Center st at the wrong lane and they have an hour long sting setup.

Well, yeah. The homeless don't have money to give to the city. Drivers do.

[Mitsu3000gt]

It’s shocking to me that these days we can’t even get scumbags arrested up for shooting up drugs in an alley on the regular and leaving needles everywhere.

But drive in the wrong lane down Center st at the wrong time and they have an hour long sting setup.

Friend of mine has a renter who turned the shed in the backyard of his property into a grow-op. They set up heaters, lined the whole thing with tinfoil, humidifiers etc. and ruined everything. He called the police and they said they can't go inside the drug shed because it's locked...so he's currently SOL.

[CompletelyNumb]

Rent a skid steer and push it all out into the street. Return skid steer. Don't get caught. Then call 311. Take videos for all of us too.