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dibbz
10-10-2019, 01:43 PM
There have been various posts over the years about working in the US, but I thought I'd ask around about recent experiences. The biggest barrier I have found is the visa. According to many of my friends who are in the US now on TN visas part of it is letting prospective companies know about TN Visa process (I qualify as an engineer) and that it is much easier than a H1B. A friend of mine in SF also suggested I change the address on my resume to his in SF which would help me get interviews (not sure how much this helps). I wanted to know if anyone has had any recent experience applying down in the US and going through the whole TN Visa process.

pheoxs
10-10-2019, 01:49 PM
So I don't have any experience in the last few years, I don't know if anything has changed in the Trump era but 4 years ago I just went to the airport with my original engineering degree and a one page letter from my P.Eng supervisor and then I just paid the fee and got a 3 year work Visa. All in it was about half hour.

I forget the exact letter but basically it said I had a specialized skillset, I would be working for X amount of time but I may do future work so I'd like to apply for a 3 year Visa, and that I'd still be working for the Canadian parent company. Then signed and stamped and all they did was read it and photocopy.

I imagine working for a US company would be similar. You just need a letter and some kind of proof of a job offer. One thing to note though is you'll probably have better luck if you have a time-based (1-3 year) contract rather than permanent employment because that explicitly shows its temporary. You can always renew / extend it.

It's an awkward situation because generally when you check the 'I need a visa/sponsorship' then you are automatically rejected for many jobs. But it's not the same level of sponsorship as a H1-B visa which costs the US company tens of thousands of dollars to apply for.

dibbz
10-10-2019, 03:09 PM
It's an awkward situation because generally when you check the 'I need a visa/sponsorship' then you are automatically rejected for many jobs. But it's not the same level of sponsorship as a H1-B visa which costs the US company tens of thousands of dollars to apply for.

That is exactly the feedback I've gotten. The people I have talked to don't consider it a sponsorship because all you need is a job offer and some description of the work you'll be doing. You don't need your company to petition the government to allow you to work for them. Anyway I'm going to apply for some jobs over the next few weeks with some of the tips I've gotten from friends, and update my progress here. Hopefully it becomes a useful guide for people interested in this path in the future. That being said anyone with recent experience please go ahead and post your experiences here.

ExtraSlow
10-10-2019, 03:15 PM
Meanwhile in Canada it's illegal to NOT hire someone because of their lack of citizenship:
https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/ontario-human-rights-tribunal-orders-employer-to-pay-120000-in-damages-to-worker-it-didnt-even-hire

you&me
10-10-2019, 04:25 PM
I saw that the other day... So much wrong.

Jlude
10-10-2019, 04:39 PM
I had a TN1 visa back in 2006-2008, it was easy to get, but the biggest factor is understanding what you need to get it. It's really quite simple. I qualified under "Scientific Tech" as an expert in my field, but a lot of companies are timid about this because they're unaware of what is needed. Let's be clear, your US employer doesn't need to do anything other than saying "Yes, we are hiring this person".

I have no experience with H1B. My wife is finishing medical school in the US and we're about to go through that process for her residency.

I am in the process of getting an E2 visa (just opened an office in Atlanta), but that wouldn't apply to you. My opinion is that US visas are not a problem if you qualify and understand the process clearly. As for changing your address, I would not do that, instead when applying for jobs, let them know that you have a solid understanding of the work visa process and will require very little from them to get a working visa.

PM me if you have other questions that I might be able to help with.

ZenOps
10-15-2019, 08:18 PM
I'd be more worried about the long term ramifications of earning a single dollar in the USA. Although if not a citizen, the IRS still does have a stupendous amount of power and legalese that no ordinary human could possibly understand. NASA made it straight up illegal to hire Chinese or anyone even related with Chinese ancestry.

Boris had to pay his six digit exit fee, even though he has been living in the UK since he was five years old (and never made a penny in the USA)

From a legal point of view, its is becoming increasingly dangerous to attempt to contribute to and be paid as a part of the USA workforce - heaven knows that Mexicans know this all too well. I can imagine this will only accelerate as US debt per citizen starts tipping $200,000 per head. As is now, they tend to blame Mexico, but Canada cannot be far behind, nor that matter blaming your state neighbor.

I wish you luck in all your future endeavors, but be wary of traps.

Toms-SC
11-02-2019, 11:21 AM
I escaped Calgary nearly two years ago. I came down to California on a TN1 as a "Computer Systems Analyst" (https://bdzlaw.com/tn-visa-systems-analyst/). My employer hired a lawyer to put together a package that was pre-approved by the US Government so there would be no surprises at the border crossing. From start to finish the process was 6 weeks. I've moved onto an H1B a couple of months ago after winning the lotto.

Misterman
11-02-2019, 01:44 PM
I escaped Calgary nearly two years ago. I came down to California on a TN1 as a "Computer Systems Analyst" (https://bdzlaw.com/tn-visa-systems-analyst/). My employer hired a lawyer to put together a package that was pre-approved by the US Government so there would be no surprises at the border crossing. From start to finish the process was 6 weeks. I've moved onto an H1B a couple of months ago after winning the lotto.

Did you mean winning the actual lottery of millions of dollars? Far as I knew, Canadians were exempt from being a part of any Visa lottery.

Glad I saw this thread! If it's that easy to get a work visa, I might very well be making my exit from this country.

Marsh
11-02-2019, 04:21 PM
Did you mean winning the actual lottery of millions of dollars? Far as I knew, Canadians were exempt from being a part of any Visa lottery.

Glad I saw this thread! If it's that easy to get a work visa, I might very well be making my exit from this country.

Not the actual lottery. H1B visa is a lottery based system.

Type_S1
11-02-2019, 04:48 PM
If any O&G professionals are looking to make the US transfer it’s going to be much more difficult then the last few years. The US industry is seeing major issues at current WTI pricing and most companies are simply not profitable at current prices. Layoffs have hit the industry hard the last 6 months to the point that I’ve heard people are struggling to get a job in Midland. 2 years ago you could have half a brain and get multiple offers to be a senior level person in midland at $150-200k base with a nice signing bonus.

On top of that, most US companies are now refusing to even consider anyone needing a visa, and sometimes it goes as far as not hiring non-Americans. Discrimination is a thing down here even if you are a Canadian which is surprising.

Buster
11-02-2019, 04:58 PM
Wait, why aren't you guys all staying here to help with the project to "diversify" our economy?!?!?!

ExtraSlow
11-02-2019, 05:03 PM
US industry is going to see a massive wave of consolidation over the next 12 months, and total employment will be significantly lower. I predict 2020 rig count will reach 700 down there.

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Wait, why aren't you guys all staying here to help with the project to "diversify" our economy?!?!?!

Like the Philippines, we will diversify by sending remittances back to our poor family.

Buster
11-02-2019, 05:22 PM
US industry is going to see a massive wave of consolidation over the next 12 months, and total employment will be significantly lower. I predict 2020 rig count will reach 700 down there.

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Like the Philippines, we will diversify by sending remittances back to our poor family.

I think its funny that Canadians think we can just replace the O+G business with "diversification" like budding flowers in the spring. It ain't happening. Canadians aren't built for actual innovation.

Type_S1
11-02-2019, 05:39 PM
Wait, why aren't you guys all staying here to help with the project to "diversify" our economy?!?!?!

I was stupidly baited into this discussion with an extremely left-leaning friend (think kertjud levels) and it is laughable how stupid some people really are when it comes to a basic understanding of how the world works. If tech companies, or other industries, wanted to move to Alberta they could have done so anytime over the past 20-30 years and never did. Alberta was a place that was generally an attractive place to invest, so why didn’t any of these industries show up? Some people claiming “cheap office space” being a reason corporations would relocate to Calgary just seems dumb...so you really think successful companies are going to up and relocate because of cheap office space? Maybe, just maybe (hear me out here...it’s tough), when successful young tech innovators can live in LA, San Fran, NYC, Seattle, Vancouver, etc. they are actively choosing to not move to Alberta because these other places have better things to offer? I am a born and raised Calgarian, and don’t get me wrong, there are worse places to live then Calgary - but it is not a world class city. The only thing Calgary had going for it was 1) easy to get a high paying job; and 2) proximity to the mountains. Albertans voting for the NDP 4 years ago and Eastern Canada voting for the liberals now twice has taken care of #1 for the foreseeable future so unless you really love the mountains in Alberta then what’s the point of staying?

Buster
11-02-2019, 05:50 PM
Alberta (and Canada in general) is like the hot chick with big tits. She thinks because she's hot and has big tits that she must also be a good actress. Just be happy that you can make that 'gram money from your big tits, and say thank you for your good fortune. Don't try to confuse that with actually being valuable from an intellectual perspective. Canadians are the same. You have been blessed with resources....get rich off of those resources and stop pretending you are something you are not.

Canadians who harp on about "diversifying" the Alberta economy have one thing fundamentally wrong: they think diversification is something you do. It's not. It's something you get as a result, when you do all of the other things right. Things like rewarding and celebrating success. This is certainly something that Canadians are very poor at. Alberta will never be able to diversify: we have big tits, but no understanding about what talent actually looks like.

cam_wmh
11-02-2019, 08:59 PM
Alberta (and Canada in general) is like the hot chick with big tits. She thinks because she's hot and has big tits that she must also be a good actress. Just be happy that you can make that 'gram money from your big tits, and say thank you for your good fortune. Don't try to confuse that with actually being valuable from an intellectual perspective. Canadians are the same. You have been blessed with resources....get rich off of those resources and stop pretending you are something you are not.

Canadians who harp on about "diversifying" the Alberta economy have one thing fundamentally wrong: they think diversification is something you do. It's not. It's something you get as a result, when you do all of the other things right. Things like rewarding and celebrating success. This is certainly something that Canadians are very poor at. Alberta will never be able to diversify: we have big tits, but no understanding about what talent actually looks like.

Brilliant analogy.

kertejud2
11-02-2019, 10:56 PM
Maybe, just maybe (hear me out here...it’s tough), when successful young tech innovators can live in LA, San Fran, NYC, Seattle, Vancouver, etc. they are actively choosing to not move to Alberta because these other places have better things to offer? I am a born and raised Calgarian, and don’t get me wrong, there are worse places to live then Calgary - but it is not a world class city. The only thing Calgary had going for it was 1) easy to get a high paying job; and 2) proximity to the mountains.

Yet whenever there's an attempt to try and inch the city to be more than just two things, a quick glance at a community open house or a beyond thread about it will show just how angry the suggestion makes people.

Super_Geo
11-03-2019, 12:30 AM
I think its funny that Canadians think we can just replace the O+G business with "diversification" like budding flowers in the spring. It ain't happening. Canadians aren't built for actual innovation.

So, no point in even trying then?
The UCP gave Husky a $250MM handout, and what did the people of Alberta get back? A wave of layoffs.
That could fund a hell of a lot of startups/innovation, or infrastructure, or hell even a mini-Ralph-bucks round at like $75/adult, which would actually recycle through the economy.
But instead they threw it into losing corporation that will use it to salvage exec pay packages and/or shareholder value.

Bloomberg had a recent article that predicts peak oil demand by 2026-2028. Alberta is at the tail end of a long supply chain, doesn’t matter if we get more pipelines, we will be irrelevant first.

If Alberta doesn’t diversify it will be completely left behind and forgotten in the long run. Oil and gas in Calgary will be a fraction of what it is now in the next decade or two.

Buster
11-03-2019, 01:00 AM
The things that actually would LOOK like "diversification" in Alberta are better done elsewhere. Are Canadians willing to do the things that create an environment for actual high value activities? Answer: no they are not. Never have been. Canadians don't think like that. Canadians are the very definition of being born on 3rd and thinking you hit a triple. It's the reason that Canadians behave so stupidly towards wealth generation - especially lately. Any rational human being elsewhere in the world would see the oil demand out there and do everything in their power to fill that demand and make shit tons of money. What do Canadians do? Turn their nose up at enterprise because they think money falls from trees in general. About 5 billion poor people living hand-to-mouth around the world would think we were the biggest morons going. And they would be right.

So you want to give $250 million to people to "diversify"? Have you thought through what that means? Do you helicopter cash to a bunch of neckbeards coding in their parent's basement in the hopes they will create the next big wave of digital economies? Not happening.

Canada can't attract capital investment for the things we're actually good at. It's definitely not attracting capital investment based on dreamy catch-phrases like "diversification".

Misterman
11-03-2019, 05:47 AM
H1B visa is a lottery based system.

Yes I'm aware. And since Canadians aren't allowed to participate, I was curious on the posters circumstances.

Zhariak
11-03-2019, 07:23 AM
I escaped Calgary nearly two years ago. I came down to California on a TN1 as a "Computer Systems Analyst" (https://bdzlaw.com/tn-visa-systems-analyst/). My employer hired a lawyer to put together a package that was pre-approved by the US Government so there would be no surprises at the border crossing. From start to finish the process was 6 weeks. I've moved onto an H1B a couple of months ago after winning the lotto.

I've been reading about the IT Systems Analyst under NAFTA Professional for some time. Been curious.

If you don't mind me asking, what did you have for the prerequisites?

I've been interested in this for some time, but don't have the requirements and I'm wondering what I should do to get it done so I qualify.

kertejud2
11-03-2019, 09:12 AM
Yes I'm aware. And since Canadians aren't allowed to participate, I was curious on the posters circumstances.

Since when are Canadians not allowed to get an H-1B?

Misterman
11-03-2019, 09:50 AM
Since when are Canadians not allowed to get an H-1B?

Who said Canadians can't get an H-1B? Not sure what Marsh was getting at about it being a lottery system? You can get one through a lottery without meeting the normal criteria for application. But in the past Canadians were exempt from the lottery for it. It was about 15 years ago when I attempted to apply for the lottery.

killramos
11-03-2019, 09:54 AM
So, no point in even trying then?
The UCP gave Husky a $250MM handout, and what did the people of Alberta get back? A wave of layoffs.
That could fund a hell of a lot of startups/innovation, or infrastructure, or hell even a mini-Ralph-bucks round at like $75/adult, which would actually recycle through the economy.
But instead they threw it into losing corporation that will use it to salvage exec pay packages and/or shareholder value.

Bloomberg had a recent article that predicts peak oil demand by 2026-2028. Alberta is at the tail end of a long supply chain, doesn’t matter if we get more pipelines, we will be irrelevant first.

If Alberta doesn’t diversify it will be completely left behind and forgotten in the long run. Oil and gas in Calgary will be a fraction of what it is now in the next decade or two.

Sorry. Since when does an across the board corporate tax cut count as a handout? You realize this wasn’t the UCP just cutting Husky a check and saying thanks for the good work lol. This “$250 Million handout to Husky” talk is intellectually dishonest, which obviously makes it a favourite NDP talking point that you are reiterating, congrats.

You know the same tax cut helps your beloved “diversified” businesses too right?

Yea Husky still laid people off, it sucks. But that is a result of not needing those people due to dwindling investment prospects in this province, which are the fault of an increasingly targeted and punitive regulatory environment with that exact design in mind, not this years taxable income number.

We should just be happy Husky is still paying taxes in this province and not Delaware.

pheoxs
11-03-2019, 11:58 AM
You know the same tax cut helps your beloved “diversified” businesses too right?


I call bullshit. The majority of start-ups operate at a loss for the beginning of their existence. They rely heavily on investments during the development phases before eventually shifting to profit. The tax cuts does absolutely nothing to help them because its a long time before they ever post a profit.

Tax cuts only help pad shareholder profits for large corporations. It does nothing to encourage hiring more people.

Buster
11-03-2019, 12:11 PM
I call bullshit. The majority of start-ups operate at a loss for the beginning of their existence. They rely heavily on investments during the development phases before eventually shifting to profit. The tax cuts does absolutely nothing to help them because its a long time before they ever post a profit.

Tax cuts only help pad shareholder profits for large corporations. It does nothing to encourage hiring more people.

I rest my case on the viability of Canada as anything other than a resource producer.

kertejud2
11-03-2019, 12:45 PM
I call bullshit. The majority of start-ups operate at a loss for the beginning of their existence. They rely heavily on investments during the development phases before eventually shifting to profit. The tax cuts does absolutely nothing to help them because its a long time before they ever post a profit.

Tax cuts only help pad shareholder profits for large corporations. It does nothing to encourage hiring more people.

Similarly expansion of research positions is also something that doesn't benefit from income tax cuts. If they're going to invest money in R&D somewhere they want a steady, preferably local stream of research assistants and qualified technical people, they want universities with steady grant money who can also do independent research parallel to their own field trials (this is particularly big for things like agchem where the PMRA doesn't really enjoy studies 'sponsored by Bayer' being the only ones telling them that a new Bayer product is safe and effective). So the province making post-secondary less affordable, less accessible and less competitive certainly is a way to help stifle any kind of diversification.

Toms-SC
11-03-2019, 09:48 PM
Just to be clear, Canadians can be put into the H1B lottery. I can say this because I've got one that came from the lotto process. Perhaps something has changed since Misterman last looked?

Toms-SC
11-03-2019, 09:51 PM
I've been reading about the IT Systems Analyst under NAFTA Professional for some time. Been curious.

If you don't mind me asking, what did you have for the prerequisites?

I've been interested in this for some time, but don't have the requirements and I'm wondering what I should do to get it done so I qualify.

I did two years at SAIT as a Network Engineer and an additional two years for an Applied Bachelors. The Immigration Lawyers had to hire a secondary specialty firm that looked through my transcripts and aligned my education to an American equivalent. I had nine years of work experience and three applicable industry certifications helped as well.

Is that helpful?

Toms-SC
11-03-2019, 09:54 PM
A lot of the American tech firms I applied to did not know about the TN1.

https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/temporary-workers/tn-nafta-professionals

Read this site 2 times over so you are able to speak about the subject with a potential employer.

msommers
11-03-2019, 10:08 PM
If any O&G professionals are looking to make the US transfer it’s going to be much more difficult then the last few years. The US industry is seeing major issues at current WTI pricing and most companies are simply not profitable at current prices. Layoffs have hit the industry hard the last 6 months to the point that I’ve heard people are struggling to get a job in Midland. 2 years ago you could have half a brain and get multiple offers to be a senior level person in midland at $150-200k base with a nice signing bonus.

On top of that, most US companies are now refusing to even consider anyone needing a visa, and sometimes it goes as far as not hiring non-Americans. Discrimination is a thing down here even if you are a Canadian which is surprising.

Wait I'm confused. I thought going to the US was dead easy work, and was told this most certainly less than 2 years ago. Texas not the dream boat any more?

KPHMPH
11-03-2019, 10:31 PM
If anyone has a decent business idea they want to open in the states I have a nice new open visa I can sponsor people with :lol:

Zhariak
11-04-2019, 04:03 AM
I did two years at SAIT as a Network Engineer and an additional two years for an Applied Bachelors. The Immigration Lawyers had to hire a secondary specialty firm that looked through my transcripts and aligned my education to an American equivalent. I had nine years of work experience and three applicable industry certifications helped as well.

Is that helpful?

Yes it is! Thank you very much! :)

Misterman
11-04-2019, 06:25 AM
Just to be clear, Canadians can be put into the H1B lottery. I can say this because I've got one that came from the lotto process. Perhaps something has changed since Misterman last looked?

Could have very well changed in the last decade. That's awesome for you, congrats!! Thanks for clarifying.

pheoxs
11-04-2019, 09:44 AM
If anyone has a decent business idea they want to open in the states I have a nice new open visa I can sponsor people with :lol:

Can't tell if serious or not haha

I looked at moving my startup south of the border last year but it's kind of a pain. Despite 90% of my revenue coming from US customers you need around 250-500k investment basically and to be able to show you'll employ a number of US workers and such IIRC.

I kinda half debating applying for a US engineering job just to get down there and then could run things on the side but idk how legal that technically is. If you can have secondary work under a TN or not.

KPHMPH
11-04-2019, 01:10 PM
Can't tell if serious or not haha

I looked at moving my startup south of the border last year but it's kind of a pain. Despite 90% of my revenue coming from US customers you need around 250-500k investment basically and to be able to show you'll employ a number of US workers and such IIRC.

I kinda half debating applying for a US engineering job just to get down there and then could run things on the side but idk how legal that technically is. If you can have secondary work under a TN or not.

Minimum investment is $30,000 USD, to get noticed and approved you should start at $100,000USD.

I’m serious, just finalizing 1 business in the great North Dakota and want to partner with someone else for a Texas one.

pheoxs
11-04-2019, 01:39 PM
Minimum investment is $30,000 USD, to get noticed and approved you should start at $100,000USD.

I’m serious, just finalizing 1 business in the great North Dakota and want to partner with someone else for a Texas one.

Interesting, when I looked into it basically everyone said the minimums are a joke and you have no hope of getting noticed. Hence the 250-500k number. That's not too bad. Maybe one of these days I'll bite the bullet, still have dreams of living in California for a bit

KPHMPH
11-04-2019, 03:17 PM
Interesting, when I looked into it basically everyone said the minimums are a joke and you have no hope of getting noticed. Hence the 250-500k number. That's not too bad. Maybe one of these days I'll bite the bullet, still have dreams of living in California for a bit

The biggest issue I had was getting all the “check marks” on their list. Office space, parking space, random numbers, all which I didn’t even need to run the business. Needless to say I’ve had an office for 5 month down there just empty - facepalm.

ZenOps
11-05-2019, 01:57 PM
One could argue that most of the USA's wealth is illusionary. A literal Ponzi scheme that requires more people join into it and become part of a system that charges $8,000 a month in rent and go to a job that sells $13 slices of avocado toast.

The hard numbers that everyone in the USA ignores is the debt. Its literally what is allowing the USA to become obese year after year after decade. Keep consuming, golf weekend in Hawaii, then golf day on the moon.

The second that the USA declares that some debt has to be paid back (or at least not grow any larger) is the day they take the free gasoline, free food, and free golf away. I can imagine it will be similar to changing the law so that students cannot default on debt will simply be extended to the national debt on a per citizen basis, or anyone unfortunate enough to be a part of the US economy as a wage "earner".

http://dailyreckoning.com/dr-content/uploads/2015/06/Historical-US-Debt.jpg

There have been many times in US history where there has be absolutely no debt.

pheoxs
11-05-2019, 02:05 PM
The hard numbers that everyone in the USA ignores is the debt. Its literally what is allowing the USA to become obese year after year after decade. Keep consuming, golf weekend in Hawaii, then golf day on the moon.

Lol wut.

They shutdown their government almost ever year bickering over their debt ceiling. In fact later this month it'll shutdown again marking the second shutdown in this calendar year.

ZenOps
11-06-2019, 07:33 AM
I dunno, you could say that they are shutting down the government not because they are bickering over debt - but because they need more money to keep their corporate pledges from rebelling. You can argue over something (debt) as a cause or effect.

As far as I'm concerned the US still hasn't paid off its fuel tab for Apollo, some 50 years later. The ones that will immediately be blamed, Mexicans, then Canadians, the Puerto Ricans, then Hawaiians. The last to be standing would be Central USA (Nebraska, Dakotas) So if your plan is to pretend to be a Dakotan - its actually not all that bad of a plan. Asian people would not be able to pass as a Dakotan though.

flipstah
11-07-2019, 11:21 AM
How does taxation work for a Canadian citizen working in the US? Is that a double hit of CRA and IRS?

Does that also mean you have to leave any financed assets behind if you move to the US?

Buster
11-07-2019, 12:02 PM
How does taxation work for a Canadian citizen working in the US? Is that a double hit of CRA and IRS?

Does that also mean you have to leave any financed assets behind if you move to the US?

tax treaties prevent double taxation

sabad66
11-07-2019, 12:42 PM
How does taxation work for a Canadian citizen working in the US? Is that a double hit of CRA and IRS?

Does that also mean you have to leave any financed assets behind if you move to the US?
Canada and most other countries tax based on residency. So if you live and work in the US all year you just pay US taxes

US however taxes on citizenship regardless of where you reside, so Americans living outside of the US are subject to US tax. However, tax treaties do allow you to use taxes paid in other friendly countries as credits against US taxes. Since most other countries have higher tax rates than US, your taxes paid end up essentially canceling out your US tax liability. Long story short, MOST Americans living in other countries don’t end up owing anything and the biggest “burden” is the cost/time of filing a US return. But there are certain cases where they would end up owing tax such as massive capital gains on RE, or capital gains in a TfSA (US doesn’t recognize TFSA as tax free)

KPHMPH
11-07-2019, 12:47 PM
Canada and most other countries tax based on residency. So if you live and work in the US all year you just pay US taxes

US however taxes on citizenship regardless of where you reside, so Americans living outside of the US are subject to US tax. However, tax treaties do allow you to use taxes paid in other friendly countries as credits against US taxes. Since most other countries have higher tax rates than US, your taxes paid end up essentially canceling out your US tax liability. Long story short, MOST Americans living in other countries don’t end up owing anything and the biggest “burden” is the cost/time of filing a US return. But there are certain cases where they would end up owing tax such as massive capital gains on RE, or capital gains in a TfSA (US doesn’t recognize TFSA as tax free)

Canadians on the other hand get royally railed. If I’m making all my money in the US but still live in Canada I would have to pay Canadian taxes on anything above the US tax rate.

For example. I get taxed 15% in the US and the same rate in Canada would be 45% I would have to “top” up the tax rate of 30% to Canada on my yearly return.

sabad66
11-07-2019, 01:07 PM
Canadians on the other hand get royally railed. If I’m making all my money in the US but still live in Canada I would have to pay Canadian taxes on anything above the US tax rate.

For example. I get taxed 15% in the US and the same rate in Canada would be 45% I would have to “top” up the tax rate of 30% to Canada on my yearly return.
It sucks, but I can’t say I disagree with this. If you want to live in Canada, you should pay the same taxes as everyone else regardless of where you earned it.

Sounds like you are moving residency to the US to avoid this?

KPHMPH
11-07-2019, 01:39 PM
It sucks, but I can’t say I disagree with this. If you want to live in Canada, you should pay the same taxes as everyone else regardless of where you earned it.

Sounds like you are moving residency to the US to avoid this?

I will eventually. I’ll wait up to 1 year before I sell anything in Calgary. I’m in an odd situation where I have a large enough shareholders loan where I can avoid taxes for quite awhile if needed.

flipstah
11-07-2019, 02:16 PM
Thanks, peeps.

If you want to use a Canadian car to the US but it's still on lien against a Canadian bank, is it able to be registered there? Do you even switch registration or keep it AB?

Buster
11-07-2019, 07:51 PM
Thanks, peeps.

If you want to use a Canadian car to the US but it's still on lien against a Canadian bank, is it able to be registered there? Do you even switch registration or keep it AB?

Your loan documents likely do not permit this

Jlude
11-07-2019, 09:29 PM
Can't tell if serious or not haha

I looked at moving my startup south of the border last year but it's kind of a pain. Despite 90% of my revenue coming from US customers you need around 250-500k investment basically and to be able to show you'll employ a number of US workers and such IIRC.

I kinda half debating applying for a US engineering job just to get down there and then could run things on the side but idk how legal that technically is. If you can have secondary work under a TN or not.


Minimum investment is $30,000 USD, to get noticed and approved you should start at $100,000USD.

I’m serious, just finalizing 1 business in the great North Dakota and want to partner with someone else for a Texas one.


Interesting, when I looked into it basically everyone said the minimums are a joke and you have no hope of getting noticed. Hence the 250-500k number. That's not too bad. Maybe one of these days I'll bite the bullet, still have dreams of living in California for a bit

I just opened an office in Atlanta. 30k is the mark to start getting noticed for an E2 visa, but around the 100k mark it's basically a sure thing. They want to see you employ or plan to employ 5+ people in a couple of years.

SkiBum5.0
11-07-2019, 10:14 PM
Your loan documents likely do not permit this

A vehicle with a lien or loan is not permitted to be imported, in addition to the State restriction for title issuance (Texas at least). flipstah, sell or discharge loan before residing in US.

flipstah
11-07-2019, 11:10 PM
A vehicle with a lien or loan is not permitted to be imported, in addition to the State restriction for title issuance (Texas at least). flipstah, sell or discharge loan before residing in US.

Le sigh

03ozwhip
11-08-2019, 09:27 PM
I just opened an office in Atlanta. 30k is the mark to start getting noticed for an E2 visa, but around the 100k mark it's basically a sure thing. They want to see you employ or plan to employ 5+ people in a couple of years.

You need an employee? Jlude Lol

Jlude
11-09-2019, 09:58 PM
You need an employee? Jlude Lol

I definitely do.

KPHMPH
11-10-2019, 07:29 AM
I definitely do.

You’re allowed to fire Canadians as long as you’re bringing them down as managers or supervisors.