Is a Twin-Turbo 370z on the Way?

[A790]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a30564438/next-gen-nissan-370z-twin-turbo-v-6-report/

Not gonna lie, assuming they price it right and make the chassis a contender, you might have a Supra/Cayman competitor. I'd definitely consider one.

[heavyD]

The good thing about buying one will be that you never have to worry about your new car being outdated over the years due to refreshes, improvements, or gasp...a new model seeing the launch car will essentially be sold as-is for over a decade.

[Mitsu3000gt]

370Z has long been on the list of cars that desperately need turbos, IMHO (others include Lexus IS series, BRZ/FRS, every N/A Subaru, ILX, etc). Hope they do it.

[vengie]

Price dependent, this could be a major contender for my fun car.

[dj_rice]

#bringbackthesilvia

And that motor has so much potential too. I have the 300HP version and with just a tune and downpipe, its quicker than the 400HP version.

[A790]

370Z has long been on the list of cars that desperately need turbos, IMHO (others include Lexus IS series, BRZ/FRS, every N/A Subaru, ILX, etc). Hope they do it.

I'd probably still have my IS if it had a snail on it. 306hp at sea level, sure. 270hp at our elevation sucks when its peers have turbos and all their power.

[Disoblige]

If they don't even reveal it for 2 years, using the existing power plant that is in the Infiniti's will be disappointing. I was half expecting some sort of hybrid system and push it closer to 450 HP.

[Ca_Silvia13]

370Z has long been on the list of cars that desperately need turbos, IMHO (others include Lexus IS series, BRZ/FRS, every N/A Subaru, ILX, etc). Hope they do it.

Rumor has it the 2021 FRS/BRZ will be a boosted 2.4L Subaru motor

[Mitsu3000gt]

I'd probably still have my IS if it had a snail on it. 306hp at sea level, sure. 270hp at our elevation sucks when its peers have turbos and all their power.

Yeah those cars are so boring, and they are way too expensive for N/A in my opinion, given what else you can buy for similar money. Very reliable I'm sure, but under-powered especially at our altitude.


Rumor has it the 2021 FRS/BRZ will be a boosted 2.4L Subaru motor

That is great news, I hope that rumor is true as well. The current ones are like the Miata - slow and boring to drive (in my opinion) while they hold off from forced induction for reasons I don't understand. Can't cost them that much to add a turbo and transform the car.

[riander5]

I'd probably still have my IS if it had a snail on it. 306hp at sea level, sure. 270hp at our elevation sucks when its peers have turbos and all their power.

Try owning an IS250 :cry:

[pheoxs]

Honestly the 370Z still looks good today. A minor facelift, a bit of a diet, and a couple turbos would make for a great car. Doubt it'd happen though.... I am holding out for a turbo frs though, that might make me buy another again.

[Disoblige]

Try owning an IS250 :cry:
When your IS is slower than a new Toyota Corolla with a turbo :rofl:

[riander5]

When your IS is slower than a new Toyota Corolla with a turbo :rofl:

Seriously this 2.5 v6 must be one of the all time worst engines of the last decade

[cam_wmh]

Seriously this 2.5 v6 must be one of the all time worst engines of the last decade

It's the modern version of Ford's 3.8L Essex, from the SN-95's.:rofl:

[bjstare]

BRZ/FRS should have been boosted from day 1 (or at least had the option). I'll believe it when I see it.

On topic, TT 370 would be great, but it would be even greater if they dropped a couple hundred lbs. Actually, just keep it N/A and drop 350lbs, it'd be fantastic.

[killramos]

I think we all know the real question here...

What’s its towing capacity and payload?

[Tik-Tok]

I think we all know the real question here...

What’s its towing capacity and payload?

More than you can tow pal!

[Buster]

Can Nissan make it not sound like a farting cow?

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Can Nissan make it not sound like a farting cow?

Holy shit this.

[Buster]

If I was in the market for a reasonably priced fun car if buy a c5 or c6 z06

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

If I was in the market for a reasonably priced fun car if buy a c5 or c6 z06

C5Z prices are still dropping and I’m going to lose my ass on mine.

[370Z]

I think we all know the real question here...

What’s its towing capacity and payload?

That's what I was wondering about... my life would be perfect then. Assuming I can even afford this Haha

[JRSC00LUDE]

C5Z prices are still dropping and I’m going to lose my ass on mine.

That's a shitty market correction to be on the wrong side of.

[killramos]

That's what I was wondering about... my life would be perfect then. Assuming I can even afford this Haha

The joke was just such low hanging fruit haha

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

That's a shitty market correction to be on the wrong side of.

To be fair my cars not worth too much less than the purchase price, but I had some disastrous expensive failures that is what kills the finances for me. I had rear diff failure like 6 months after I bought my car.

[Disoblige]

To be fair my cars not worth too much less than the purchase price, but I had some disastrous expensive failures that is what kills the finances for me. I had rear diff failure like 6 months after I bought my car.
Trade for Honda Fit? :rofl:

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Trade for Honda Fit? :rofl:

I’m only interested in manual Fits, sorry.

[Xtrema]

So they can call this a 300zx again?

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a30586109/nissan-z-future-2021/


I hold doubt. Nissan had a worst 2019 ever and dealerships are bitching. Not sure where they are getting $ from to support this car and ongoing spat with Renault alliance.

[bjstare]

In that render (?) it looks like a baby AMG GTS

[Xtrema]

In that render (?) it looks like a baby AMG GTS

C&D illustrator's take.

Nobody knows at this point.

EDIT: Ghosn said Nissan is bankrupt in 2 to 3 years anyway.
https://www.motor1.com/news/394386/carlos-ghosn-says-nissan-go-bankrupt/

[ShermanEF9]

Can Nissan make it not sound like a farting cow?

Top Comment. I laughed like an idiot.

[heavyD]

C&D illustrator's take.

Nobody knows at this point.

EDIT: Ghosn said Nissan is bankrupt in 2 to 3 years anyway.
https://www.motor1.com/news/394386/carlos-ghosn-says-nissan-go-bankrupt/

He's probably not far off. The FM platform that this future model will be based debuted in 2001 for crying out loud and Nissan has stretched aging platforms and drivetrains to the point where they have become the Chrysler of Japanese automakers but at least Chrysler has Jeep.

[Disoblige]

Nissan is such a garbage brand this day and age. Worst of all the Japanese brands.

[Maxx Mazda]

Can Nissan make it not sound like a farting cow?

This. Always thought the VQ was one of the worst sounding engines of all time, especially with an aftermarket exhaust. The RB on the other hand. :love:

[Xtrema]

He's probably not far off. The FM platform that this future model will be based debuted in 2001 for crying out loud and Nissan has stretched aging platforms and drivetrains to the point where they have become the Chrysler of Japanese automakers but at least Chrysler has Jeep.

Infiniti is ditching FM. I assume they have something better in the wings that will replace them?

I don't even know what QX50 is really on tho so doesn't give me much faith.

[94boosted]

I really hope Nissan does this, a 370Z plus the Red Sport engine could be a great combination as long as it doesn't get that shitty steer by wire system. Oh and for the love of god it better get a proper diff as that's the one thing that really holds back the current 350Z/370Z.




That is great news, I hope that rumor is true as well. The current ones are like the Miata - slow and boring to drive (in my opinion) while they hold off from forced induction for reasons I don't understand. Can't cost them that much to add a turbo and transform the car.

If they did a boosted FRS then what would be the point of the 4cyl Turbo Supra which is supposedly already coming.

[pheoxs]

I really hope Nissan does this, a 370Z plus the Red Sport engine could be a great combination as long as it doesn't get that shitty steer by wire system. Oh and for the love of god it better get a proper diff as that's the one thing that really holds back the current 350Z/370Z.



If they did a boosted FRS then what would be the point of the 4cyl Turbo Supra which is supposedly already coming.

Well the Supra is very under-rated at 335hp with some dynos reporting 335 at the wheels. So let's say realistically it's actually ~375+hp.

You could slot a turbo FRS in at 210-240hp with a nice small fast spooling turbo and that would still leave room for a 300-325hp 4 banger Supra.

The FR-S is an incredible platform, it doesn't necessarily need more power, it just needs an engine that isn't fucking garbage. The FA20 is trash because of the torque dip right in the middle of the power band. Seriously the 1.6 turbo in my fiesta is way more fun even with less power.

Seriously, who wants a power curve like this:

https://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/scion/fr-s/2013/fe/2013_scion_fr-s_det_fe_1011123_600.jpg

[Mitsu3000gt]

If they did a boosted FRS then what would be the point of the 4cyl Turbo Supra which is supposedly already coming.

Isn't the Supra a lot 'more car' than a FRS? I thought the supra's were $50K+ and based on the BMW Z4. A boosted FRS could still easily be $~30K.

[94boosted]

Well the Supra is very under-rated at 335hp with some dynos reporting 335 at the wheels. So let's say realistically it's actually ~375+hp.

You could slot a turbo FRS in at 210-240hp with a nice small fast spooling turbo and that would still leave room for a 300-325hp 4 banger Supra.

The FR-S is an incredible platform, it doesn't necessarily need more power, it just needs an engine that isn't fucking garbage. The FA20 is trash because of the torque dip right in the middle of the power band. Seriously the 1.6 turbo in my fiesta is way more fun even with less power.

Seriously, who wants a power curve like this:

https://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/scion/fr-s/2013/fe/2013_scion_fr-s_det_fe_1011123_600.jpg

Thing is though the under-rated number is still the Toyota number, so 335hp is what it is, the turbo 4cyl Turbo Supra in Japan makes 194hp-225hp depending on tune (https://www.motor1.com/news/347234/toyota-four-cylinder-supra-registration/). So if the ~225hp Supra exists I don't think there is room for a low two hundred horsepower FRS :dunno: though I do agree with you that a 210-240hp turbo motor in the existing car (without adding much curb weight) would be great.

[94boosted]

Isn't the Supra a lot 'more car' than a FRS? I thought the supra's were $50K+ and based on the BMW Z4. A boosted FRS could still easily be $~30K.

Yes but can a company justify having two 2XXHP RWD Sports cars? Keep in mind that the current FRS is like 700lbs lighter than the current Supra so if they both had turbo 4cyl engines with similar power outputs the FRS would cannibalize the 4cyl Turbo Supra IMO.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Yes but can a company justify having two 2XXHP RWD Sports cars? Keep in mind that the current FRS is like 700lbs lighter than the current Supra so if they both had turbo 4cyl engines with similar power outputs the FRS would cannibalize the 4cyl Turbo Supra IMO.

Perhaps, but how would that be any different than current vehicles that are not similar in cost, but are similar in performance? You can buy a fast, lower quality car for a lot less than a similarly fast luxury car - that value proposition seems to be successful for other manufacturers, I would assume it would be for Toyota too. With the case of the FRS, you could leave it at 200 HP and just use the turbo to give it some torque and much nicer power delivery - then leave it up to the aftermarket to take it from there. Torque is more the problem with these weak N/A cars, especially at Calgary's altitude. They become so boring to drive IMHO when the noise it makes doesn't match the feeling you get haha. Even if they swapped the N/A 2.0L in the FRS for a 1.5 or 1.8L turbo, I think that would still be a win and make the car way more enjoyable to drive.

[Tik-Tok]

Yes but can a company justify having two 2XXHP RWD Sports cars? Keep in mind that the current FRS is like 700lbs lighter than the current Supra so if they both had turbo 4cyl engines with similar power outputs the FRS would cannibalize the 4cyl Turbo Supra IMO.

They did it for the entire 90's