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Masked Bandit
02-21-2020, 02:33 PM
Reading the g-wagon thread there seems to be a lot of negative association with this particular model and the "status" of it so got me thinking, what vehicle says "I've got WAY more money than you but I'm not a douche about it"?

eglove
02-21-2020, 02:38 PM
Ford raptor? lol

dirtsniffer
02-21-2020, 02:39 PM
89506

Disoblige
02-21-2020, 02:44 PM
Honda Fit, duh!

killramos
02-21-2020, 02:44 PM
I was going to say Tesla anything, but that doesn’t fit the not a douche requirement.

Yukon Denali?

Twin_Cam_Turbo
02-21-2020, 02:45 PM
Bentley Flying Spur

Strider
02-21-2020, 02:49 PM
2 Teslas

dibbz
02-21-2020, 03:02 PM
Audi A8/S8? I think the understated look and makes it sort of stealth (aka not douche). I don't think many people know it is in the same class as an S Class or BMW 750. I guess the same thing could be said for the Lexus LS 500.

ExtraSlow
02-21-2020, 03:27 PM
Honda Fit, duh!

Ding ding ding!!!

Mitsu3000gt
02-21-2020, 03:41 PM
IMO all the big luxury sedans (S-Class, A8, 7 series, Lexus LS, etc.) and also their higher performance variants.

Most of the German wagons.

I do think the RS/AMG/M cars are fairly understated and most people don't know they have 600+ HP, but it depends who's driving it haha. The high performance SUVs are in a similar category too IMO.

Most Bentleys I've seen around are driven by 60+ year old guys who drive under the speed limit everywhere, so maybe them too?

rx7boi
02-21-2020, 03:51 PM
Bentley Continental.

Whenever I've seen them around town they're never hooning or driving like douchebags.

RX_EVOLV
02-21-2020, 03:58 PM
Don't know if this is consider low-key vehicle flex but every time I see someone driving a 'high performance' big SUV like GLS63 or GLE63 or X6M or Cayenne Turbo, I feel like they are saying they buy it just because they can (especially GLS63.. who needs a 7 seater, 600hp+ car ...)

Not sure if this is considered a flex, but when people park their expensive cars outside overnight full time (e.g. the 2019+ Cayenne S or 2020 GLE450 I frequently see in Rosedale), it makes me wonder what nice cars they must be hiding in their garages.

Mitsu3000gt
02-21-2020, 04:04 PM
Not sure if this is considered a flex, but when people park their expensive cars outside overnight full time (e.g. the 2019+ Cayenne S or 2020 GLE450 I frequently see in Rosedale), it makes me wonder what nice cars they must be hiding in their garages.

There is a house in my neighborhood that looks like a run-down shack, it has no garage, but it has a super shitty make-shift car port with a tarp for a roof covering a newer looking S-Class MB and CLS MB that are parked outside 24/7. I just assumed they were drug dealers haha.

403civic
02-21-2020, 04:06 PM
Volkswagen Phaeton is the low key baller car in my books

I have money, i know how to spend it
but you normies just think i'm driving a Passat

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dj_rice
02-21-2020, 04:09 PM
Genesis G80

beyond_ban
02-21-2020, 04:15 PM
Volkswagen Phaeton is the low key baller car in my books

I have money, i know how to spend it
but you normies just think i'm driving a Passat

89512

They know how to spend their money? Didn't VW only sell a handful of these things because nobody in their right mind was prepared to drop $100k on a VW

SKR
02-21-2020, 04:19 PM
Not sure if this is considered a flex, but when people park their expensive cars outside overnight full time (e.g. the 2019+ Cayenne S or 2020 GLE450 I frequently see in Rosedale), it makes me wonder what nice cars they must be hiding in their garages.

The vehicles I park inside are pure dogshit, and I try to be a good neighbor by keeping them out of sight.

Mitsu3000gt
02-21-2020, 04:52 PM
Can't you buy a Phaeton for like $15K nowadays? I'm not sure that's much of a flex haha.

botox
02-21-2020, 04:55 PM
Bentley or Rolls Royce, but true ballers need a chauffeur

gpomp
02-21-2020, 04:58 PM
2013 750i

killramos
02-21-2020, 05:50 PM
IMO all the big luxury sedans (S-Class, A8, 7 series, Lexus LS, etc.) and also their higher performance variants.

Most of the German wagons.

I do think the RS/AMG/M cars are fairly understated and most people don't know they have 600+ HP, but it depends who's driving it haha. The high performance SUVs are in a similar category too IMO.

Most Bentleys I've seen around are driven by 60+ year old guys who drive under the speed limit everywhere, so maybe them too?

If you weren’t a car guy no one knew wtf my AMG was when I was driving it, it was just a c class Mercedes to them. I found it very low key, until you stepped on the loud pedal.

ExtraSlow
02-21-2020, 06:42 PM
Volvo v90 ocean race.

ercchry
02-21-2020, 06:48 PM
I heard some silly stat that most millionaires drive F150s... I guess it would checkout since it’s such a high volume vehicle... think if I was going to over spend on a pickup though it would be a Denali

Tik-Tok
02-21-2020, 06:55 PM
A Genesis.

It says you have enough money that you could afford a Euro, but also that you care even less about the depreciation.


I heard some silly stat that most millionaires drive F150s... I guess it would checkout since it’s such a high volume vehicle... think if I was going to over spend on a pickup though it would be a Denali

I can confirm that there were WAY more 1/2 tons parked in our hanger than I would ever have suspected there would be.

revelations
02-21-2020, 07:50 PM
Lexus LS500 - about 150k full load

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/MR1PY/s1/2018-lexus-ls-500-f-sport-review.jpg

AndyL
02-21-2020, 08:05 PM
I know 2 owners of RR Phantom VII's. Pretty sure you need a heck of a bankroll to own one :) both aren't douches...

SkiBum5.0
02-21-2020, 10:07 PM
LX570/Land Cruiser. The calling card of the Woodlands soccer mom

adam c
02-21-2020, 10:18 PM
I heard some silly stat that most millionaires drive F150s... I guess it would checkout since it’s such a high volume vehicle... think if I was going to over spend on a pickup though it would be a Denali

Owner of the company I work for drives one

ThePenIsMightier
02-21-2020, 11:20 PM
The "Gentleman's Ferrari" cars aka their true GT cars are exactly this. While they're a head turner, they're a long way from flashy; but, they cost about 50% more than a nice Ferrari. They're often literally the flagships and they're made for a market so tiny, virtually no one buys them.
Today's GTC-4Lusso is over $450,000 when you can buy a plenty nice Ferrari for $300k. Plus, it's a wacky, shooting-brake / wagon-esque thing that (if you take off the Scuderia badges) most people won't believe is a Ferrari at all, let alone one of the most expensive you can buy.

That's flexing by not flexing, isn't it? "I already know I have money. I don't need other people to see so they can tell me how much money I must have."

Buster
02-21-2020, 11:25 PM
the top end lexus sedan?

Buster
02-21-2020, 11:32 PM
Singer?

ThePenIsMightier
02-21-2020, 11:48 PM
Maybach would be another good choice.
"Oh, another Mercedes". Yeah, no.

e31
02-22-2020, 12:14 AM
Working backwards; of the two Billionaires i've spoken to, one drove a Ram 1500 and the other a VW Beetle.

Sentry
02-22-2020, 12:27 AM
Volvo SUVs are for the secret rich. XC60 and XC90 is pretty baller without being too "LOOK AT ME!"

KrisYYC
02-22-2020, 01:09 AM
I heard some silly stat that most millionaires drive F150s... I guess it would checkout since it’s such a high volume vehicle... think if I was going to over spend on a pickup though it would be a Denali

Yes, or other totally normal run of the mill cars. Real wealth doesn't show. Most people in luxury cars are people with decent income people in large amounts of debt. Only wannabes think you can show "status".

You should see the jalopies some of the big commercial property owners around here drive. Best example I've seen is a past client of ours who owned multiple apartments buildings all over AB and BC, as well as some auto repair shops in BC. The guy had a mid 8 figure net worth but drove an old Volvo and looked like Al from Home Improvement complete with flannel shirts.

The F-150 stat makes sense to me. Canada is a pretty blue collar economy and I bet a lot of millionaires here are guys who started their own plumbing/electrical/welding or other trades businesses.

Buster
02-22-2020, 01:19 AM
People make up all of these associations with how rich people behave. The population of rich people is about as diverse as the rest of the population.

ExtraSlow
02-22-2020, 06:24 AM
People make up all of these associations with how rich people behave. The population of rich people is about as diverse as the rest of the population.

Hey you tell us brother. Most of us are just guessing.

A790
02-22-2020, 11:24 AM
Any newer vehicle that's paid for.

ExtraSlow
02-22-2020, 11:30 AM
Any newer vehicle that's paid for.
I try to flex whenever people talk about car payments by mentioning that I don't have any car payments. But that only works if they don't see what I drive.

revelations
02-22-2020, 11:45 AM
the top end lexus sedan?

Its very nice in some ways, silly in others.

No Apple or Android auto - no remote start in Canada (available over mobile network and an app).

bjstare
02-22-2020, 12:00 PM
Back when it came out, the Phaeton was definitely a low key baller car. It was basically a bentley but with a VW badge, it was for someone with $100k to spend on a luxury car who doesn't give 2 shits about what other people think about what they drive.

On a somewhat related note, I was at someones house before christmas and they had a new Lexus LS and a new S560. I thought that was pretty darn weird to have both a german and japanese luxury barge.

killramos
02-22-2020, 12:05 PM
As far as I can tell people will always find a reason to look down on what you drive. Expensive / cheap, import / domestic , eco friendly / gas guzzler, fast / slow, pretty / ugly. People’s propensity to be on a high horse about cars is infinite.

Just drive what you want, for whatever reason makes you happy.

Buster
02-22-2020, 12:23 PM
As far as I can tell people will always find a reason to look down on what you drive. Expensive / cheap, import / domestic , eco friendly / gas guzzler, fast / slow, pretty / ugly. People’s propensity to be on a high horse about cars is infinite.

Just drive what you want, for whatever reason makes you happy.

or people say that its compensation. or that they cant afford it and they have huge payments or HELOC, etc.

A790
02-22-2020, 01:08 PM
I try to flex whenever people talk about car payments by mentioning that I don't have any car payments. But that only works if they don't see what I drive.

lol no car payments is a total flex regardless of what you drive. If you've got something from 2017+ that's paid for, that's a low-key flex, especially if you're taking what most people spend in car payments and investing it instead.

ercchry
02-22-2020, 01:13 PM
lol no car payments is a total flex regardless of what you drive. If you've got something from 2017+ that's paid for, that's a low-key flex, especially if you're taking what most people spend in car payments and investing it instead.

I’d have such small payments on a luxury lease if I traded in my free and clear car... the struggle is real every few months :rofl:

The_Rural_Juror
02-22-2020, 01:21 PM
my free and clear car...

That's pretty much whipping your penis out at a Webber open house type flex

90_Shelby
02-22-2020, 01:35 PM
or people say that its compensation. or that they cant afford it and they have huge payments or HELOC, etc.


lol no car payments is a total flex regardless of what you drive. If you've got something from 2017+ that's paid for, that's a low-key flex, especially if you're taking what most people spend in car payments and investing it instead.

Is it really a "flex" if you don't advertise that you have no car payments? How would people know otherwise? As Buster said, people often assume huge payments, HELOC etc. and that is the case for a lot of people, but not always.

The_Rural_Juror
02-22-2020, 01:44 PM
Is it really a "flex" if you don't advertise that you have no car payments? How would people know otherwise? As Buster said, people often assume huge payments, HELOC etc. and that is the case for a lot of people, but not always.

My license plate says "FREENCLR".

ThePenIsMightier
02-22-2020, 02:57 PM
This reminds me that my last car payment is the end of March!
It'll be nice to have a couple thousand freed up every month.


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Oh, I think I got a cramp from that one!

ExtraSlow
02-22-2020, 03:38 PM
Oh, I think I got a cramp from that one! Could just be menstrual cramps.

nicknolte
02-22-2020, 04:54 PM
Volvo S80 was a low key status flex car and the current S90 is arguably the same.

My uncle is a millionaire and he drives an '04 S60, which is one of the reasons he stays rich... lol

The_Rural_Juror
02-22-2020, 06:50 PM
Volvo S80 was a low key status flex car and the current S90 is arguably the same.

My uncle is a millionaire and he drives an '04 S60, which is one of the reasons he stays rich... lol

Only one million?

bjstare
02-22-2020, 07:52 PM
Only one million?

Must be a student.

zipdoa
02-23-2020, 09:57 AM
Pretty much anyone who can afford to own 20y/o++ poster cars. Kind of kills my love for the car game, but that's only cause I'm not baller.

1984 Audi Sport Quattro - $500k++
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/AZ15/Arizona/lots/r192-1984-audi-sport-quattro/181369
1994/5 Audi RS2 - $60k+++
1983-1990 Audi UrQuattro - $50k++
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-audi-ur-quattro-4/
Audi B5 RS4 - $40k+
Audi C5 RS6 - $30k+

Obviously, all the cool 90's BMW's are stupid money.

There's an E34 M5 on kijiji for $40k+
E36/8 M-Coupes - $40k++
All the older M models are skyrocketing

Mercedes!!

1991 190E evo 2 - $200k++
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-mercedes-benz-190e-2-5-evolution-ii/
1994 E500 - $40k++
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1994-mercedes-benz-e500-12/

Obviously, all the air-cooled Porsche's.

It's a crazy world out there - will it be feasible to drive ICE vehicles 25 years from now? I wonder if/when the market will peak?

ExtraSlow
02-23-2020, 10:05 AM
ICON Land Cruiser or Bronco. Ridiculous money, crazy rate, and woukd be invisible to 90% of people.

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RX_EVOLV
02-23-2020, 10:32 AM
Most of our investors have relatively high net worth but you can't tell from the cars they drive. The few people I can think of

- Surgeon - ~2011 BMW 328i
- Entrepreneur. Made ~$30M when he sold the business - Toyota Tundra
- Entrepreneur. Sold 3 companies. Ford F150
- Sales director. Made ~$8M over a few years before company was sold. 2013 Volvo XC90
- Venture capitalist - ~2008 Honda Accord
- Entrepreneur and been CFO for several companies - ~2014 Infiniti Q50
- Our former CEO and now an executive at a major O&G company - 1998 Toyota 4Runner with ~300k on it.
- Lawyer/Partner at a major law film, who sold his last house for ~$3M - First gen Audi Q3

Darkane
02-23-2020, 10:38 AM
New Denali pickup.

Big SUVs (expedition)

Hybrid XC90

GTR, GT500 (every option is 130+ CDN).

All are flex vehicle but not douchy.

killramos
02-23-2020, 11:38 AM
Most of our investors have relatively high net worth but you can't tell from the cars they drive. The few people I can think of

- Surgeon - ~2011 BMW 328i
- Entrepreneur. Made ~$30M when he sold the business - Toyota Tundra
- Entrepreneur. Sold 3 companies. Ford F150
- Sales director. Made ~$8M over a few years before company was sold. 2013 Volvo XC90
- Venture capitalist - ~2008 Honda Accord
- Entrepreneur and been CFO for several companies - ~2014 Infiniti Q50
- Our former CEO and now an executive at a major O&G company - 1998 Toyota 4Runner with ~300k on it.
- Lawyer/Partner at a major law film, who sold his last house for ~$3M - First gen Audi Q3

Most self made big money people I know are workaholics who have no time for cars anyway. Occasionally people happen to be interested in cars and as such spend big money on them, but car guy workaholic multi millionaires is starting to become a pretty small piece of the Venn diagram.

Not a lot of time for hobbies when all you do is work.

Buster
02-23-2020, 12:30 PM
Most self made big money people I know are workaholics who have no time for cars anyway. Occasionally people happen to be interested in cars and as such spend big money on them, but car guy workaholic multi millionaires is starting to become a pretty small piece of the Venn diagram.

Not a lot of time for hobbies when all you do is work.

Most people in general don't care about cars. Getting rich isn't going to turn you into a car guy.

dj_rice
02-23-2020, 01:02 PM
Most people in general don't care about cars. Getting rich isn't going to turn you into a car guy.

:werd::werd: Drive basic vehicle but pull into garage of million dollar house.

killramos
02-23-2020, 01:52 PM
Most people in general don't care about cars. Getting rich isn't going to turn you into a car guy.

I think that’s a better way to phrase the point I was trying to make yes.

ShermanEF9
02-23-2020, 04:18 PM
Suburbans and expeditions. those things are ungodly expensive.

ercchry
02-23-2020, 09:35 PM
Split window stingray.... yeah old vette is a little flashy... but only those that know would even notice the split window and all of a sudden.... $$$$$$ car!

yipb
02-24-2020, 11:25 AM
I read somewhere a lower mileage, clean, dealer maintained older s class (02+?). The idea is you must have a lot of money to keep that type of car running on the road.

killramos
02-24-2020, 11:30 AM
I read somewhere a lower mileage, clean, dealer maintained older s class (02+?). The idea is you must have a lot of money to keep that type of car running on the road.

I don’t know how it’s really a flex to own a car that spends more time at the dealer than on the road. Which an 02 S class definitely would.

To me that screams “need the badge but can’t afford a car that works”

yipb
02-24-2020, 12:07 PM
I don’t know how it’s really a flex to own a car that spends more time at the dealer than on the road. Which an 02 S class definitely would.

To me that screams “need the badge but can’t afford a car that works”

It's a flex cause he has F U money to keep the car running while he can probably finance a new car instead.

Aleks
02-24-2020, 12:34 PM
To most people this doesn't look like a $300k plus vehicle exterior wise.

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pheoxs
02-24-2020, 12:36 PM
Most self made big money people I know are workaholics who have no time for cars anyway. Occasionally people happen to be interested in cars and as such spend big money on them, but car guy workaholic multi millionaires is starting to become a pretty small piece of the Venn diagram.

Not a lot of time for hobbies when all you do is work.

Probably also depends when they made their money. A lot of people just run a car until it dies then buy something else. If I have a 5 year old car that still runs great and sell a business for a few million I'd probably still rock the same car since it runs fine. But you can bet that when it does finally die that I'll buy something nicer because I want it to last and not worry about it. Maybe not Beyond baller nice, but something definitely as a treat.

ExtraSlow
02-24-2020, 12:57 PM
To most people this doesn't look like a $300k plus vehicle exterior wise.
89553
89554
Great flex to drive an airport sedan . . . .

mr2mike
02-24-2020, 05:20 PM
Working backwards; of the two Billionaires i've spoken to, one drove a Ram 1500 and the other a VW Beetle.

and a 3rd with a Mid 90s Land Rover.


My pitch: E63 Wagon with Thule on top or Land Rover Defender.

blownz
02-25-2020, 04:37 PM
Being an accountant over the years I have always enjoyed seeing how people with such varied incomes will drive such varied vehicles. Everyone has their own priority.

Personally, I think low-key flex pretty much has to be an American brand, as the general public will base the value of the vehicle and the douchiness of the owner purely on the badge on the vehicle. Top level F150 or Expedition or Denali half ton or SUV is pretty low key. Most people have no idea how expensive or nice they are inside. Although to not be a douche, when someone asks what you drive, you have to answer "Ford" or GMC", and not "King Ranch" or "Denali" otherwise you are now trying too hard and obviously are trying to impress.