Shaw Fibre+ Gig

[2Legit2Quit]

Anyone else get emailed about upgrading to Fibre+? Is this new? Didn't know Shaw offered fibre at all, anyone here on it already?

https://www.shaw.ca/internet/fibreplus

[killramos]

Anyone else get emailed about upgrading to Fibre+? Is this new? Didn't know Shaw offered fibre at all, anyone here on it already?

https://www.shaw.ca/internet/fibreplus

They don’t have fibre, hence this:

https://mobilesyrup.com/2020/06/12/telus-shaw-lawsuit-misleading-fibre-ads/

That being said it’s just their newest top tier service. Nothing new behind it though.

[2Legit2Quit]

oh so it's a branding scam haha, dumb. if it were actual fibre then I might be interested.

[pheoxs]

Yeah just BS branding. Still cable into your home unfortunately.

[rage2]

The business gigabit Fibre+ service launched too. Uploads to 125mbps if you need the upstream compared to 35mbps on the home service.

https://business.shaw.ca/internet/businessinternet

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

The business gigabit Fibre+ service launched too. Uploads to 125mbps if you need the upstream compared to 35mbps on the home service.

https://business.shaw.ca/internet/businessinternet

The cost jump is insane compared to not only Telus, but their own Gig home service. I literally just received this email minutes after seeing the thread.

[taemo]

home consumer still limited to 20Mbps upload.. I know for most consumer it doesn't matter.
I can barely saturate 300Mbps download but more upload speed would be nice.

[rage2]

home consumer still limited to 20Mbps upload.. I know for most consumer it doesn't matter.
I can barely saturate 300Mbps download but more upload speed would be nice.
It's weird, even working fully in the cloud, my upstream at peak usage sits at around 12, 4mbps of that is from the 8 cameras in the house to the cloud.

[killramos]

It's weird, even working fully in the cloud, my upstream at peak usage sits at around 12, 4mbps of that is from the 8 cameras in the house to the cloud.

My connection on Shaw was very very rarely the bottleneck I agree.

Only reason I went with Telus is with their Black Friday deal it was wayyyyy cheaper.

[The_Penguin]

I got the email today. What a crock. Shaw DOES have fibre in some places, we have it at work, 400/400 but this offer of 1Gig down 25 meg up, is a joke.

[speedog]

I got the email today. What a crock. Shaw DOES have fibre in some places, we have it at work, 400/400 but this offer of 1Gig down 25 meg up, is a joke.

I would expect that Shaw would have a fibre presence in many commercial sites but what about residential? Does Shaw have fibre entrances into any condo towers right into the individual suites? Are they doing fibre into SFH's in new communities or are they sticking with coax entrances? And what of TELUS in new communities - are they even doing copper entrances anymore or is it strictly fiber or is it a mix? I'll have to start paying more attention I guess.

[rage2]

I would expect that Shaw would have a fibre presence in many commercial sites but what about residential? Does Shaw have fibre entrances into any condo towers right into the individual suites? Are they doing fibre into SFH's in new communities or are they sticking with coax entrances? And what of TELUS in new communities - are they even doing copper entrances anymore or is it strictly fiber or is it a mix? I'll have to start paying more attention I guess.
Shaw had fiberlink, which got bought out by group telecom, which got bought by Bell. We’re still connected on the original fiberlink now bell circuit at work. After they sold Shaw started big pipe to compete. That’s their fiber presence and is sold under Shaw enterprise. Their business offerings are purely through coax.

The only “community” where Shaw has ftth is a few houses in discovery ridge. I believe the story is that to test ftth they chose a few execs there. It’s by no means available to the public. So it’s safe to say that Shaw has absolutely zero fiber presence for residential and business services.

I’m told years ago by a pretty senior Shaw exec that once Shaw saw the advancements in docsis it made zero sense to pursue ftth.

I wish I had some inside info on Telus. I just don’t know anyone senior there.

[Zhariak]

To this day, out of all my customers I've only had one that qualified or had access to Shaw FTTP (Fiber to the Premise) Fiber for small business: Shaw FTTP (Fiber to the Premise) Business Install (https://www.stephenwagner.com/2013/08/23/shaw-fttp-fiber-to-the-premise-business-install/)

I think this was around 10 months after their purchase of Enmax's fiber network.

-Industrial area off 52nd
-Small biz coax speed plans (and pricing) on FTTP
-Latency was non-existent

[rage2]

To this day, out of all my customers I've only had one that qualified or had access to Shaw FTTP (Fiber to the Premise) Fiber for small business: Shaw FTTP (Fiber to the Premise) Business Install (https://www.stephenwagner.com/2013/08/23/shaw-fttp-fiber-to-the-premise-business-install/)

I think this was around 10 months after their purchase of Enmax's fiber network.

-Industrial area off 52nd
-Small biz coax speed plans (and pricing) on FTTP
-Latency was non-existent
Unicorn! What’s hilarious is that it’s still technically coax delivered to the client lol.

[speedog]

To this day, out of all my customers I've only had one that qualified or had access to Shaw FTTP (Fiber to the Premise) Fiber for small business: Shaw FTTP (Fiber to the Premise) Business Install (https://www.stephenwagner.com/2013/08/23/shaw-fttp-fiber-to-the-premise-business-install/)

I think this was around 10 months after their purchase of Enmax's fiber network.

-Industrial area off 52nd
-Small biz coax speed plans (and pricing) on FTTP
-Latency was non-existent

Enmax fiber, if my memory serves me correctly there was a certain mayor's wife who was involved in the company that build the fiber networkalong Enmax ROW's that Enmax later bought. Controversial arm's length association that benefited the mayor of that time.

[taemo]

It's weird, even working fully in the cloud, my upstream at peak usage sits at around 12, 4mbps of that is from the 8 cameras in the house to the cloud.


My connection on Shaw was very very rarely the bottleneck I agree.

Only reason I went with Telus is with their Black Friday deal it was wayyyyy cheaper.

Yeah for general consumption like that, 15-20Mbps is sufficient.

I remote into my home devices from office quite a bit, seed torrent, weekly backup to the cloud and use my home network as private VPN (handy when in the US or oversea and want to watch Shaw BlueCurve).
Can get by with current upload speed but the more the merrier.

Even our office with Shaw Business 300 and under 400 staff averages 20-40Mbps upload during business hours. It's the cloud backups that sucks all the bandwidth after hours.

[rage2]

Yeah for general consumption like that, 15-20Mbps is sufficient.

I remote into my home devices from office quite a bit, seed torrent, weekly backup to the cloud and use my home network as private VPN (handy when in the US or oversea and want to watch Shaw BlueCurve).
Can get by with current upload speed but the more the merrier.

Even our office with Shaw Business 300 and under 400 staff averages 20-40Mbps upload during business hours. It's the cloud backups that sucks all the bandwidth after hours.
Forgot about cloud backups. Yea, my numbers include my QNAP continually synching to the cloud as well. I guess when I first initially ran the sync, that could've used more upstream as it took something like 4 months for 2 TB haha.

[Kavy]

They switched me to this a couple weeks ago and everything seems fine minus IPV6 no longer working correctly since the change over. The settings I was running previously worked just fine with my unifi setup.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

So has anyone managed to get a decent deal out of shaw lately, or is it still "pay what's on the sign"? My 600 2-year plan is almost up.

[ExtraSlow]

First step to getting a good deal from shaw is to verify that you can get Telus FTTH at your address. if yes, then you have bargaining power.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

First step to getting a good deal from shaw is to verify that you can get Telus FTTH at your address. if yes, then you have bargaining power.

If I had Telus FTTH at my address, I would only be calling shaw to cancel.

[88CRX]

So has anyone managed to get a decent deal out of shaw lately, or is it still "pay what's on the sign"? My 600 2-year plan is almost up.

We recently re-signed with Shaw. $150/month for 600 with 5 TV packs and HBO/Crave. I think if we drop HBO it would be $130/month. Also includes the main box plus 2 mini box rentals.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

We recently re-signed with Shaw. $150/month for 600 with 5 TV packs and HBO/Crave. I think if we drop HBO it would be $130/month. Also includes the main box plus 2 mini box rentals.

Good to know. I'm an "internet only" customer. $85/month for Shaw 600.

[Alterac]

There are some newer areas of the city with true shaw fibre to the home.

Fibre inside direct to the Shaw fibe modem, no coax invloved at all.
Their is a Inside the home "Node" that does split the fibre into coax for their TV boxes if you use them, but it spits fibre out to the shaw fibre modem.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

So has anyone managed to get a decent deal out of shaw lately, or is it still "pay what's on the sign"? My 600 2-year plan is almost up.

In the middle of this right now. Regular reps only offer what's on the site, Loyalty won't even talk to me because I'm on an expiring contract. I was told to call a different number for dealing with people that were on existing plans (1-888-481-1081) but it doesn't open until noon Pacific time for some reason.

[npham]

Tried calling and using their chat, but the reps are awful thus far. I want something month to month, as Telus Fibre should be available to me this summer, early fall. They were offering me packages with less speed and fewer channels but more than what I'm currently paying, after my 2 year contract expired...

Might have to suck it up and pay the extra 50-80 bucks a month for 2-3 months, and then switch to Telus.

[speedog]

There are some newer areas of the city with true shaw fibre to the home.

Fibre inside direct to the Shaw fibe modem, no coax invloved at all.
Their is a Inside the home "Node" that does split the fibre into coax for their TV boxes if you use them, but it spits fibre out to the shaw fibre modem.

Sounds like some Sage Hill builds may have Shaw FTTH.

[eblend]

And what of TELUS in new communities - are they even doing copper entrances anymore or is it strictly fiber or is it a mix? I'll have to start paying more attention I guess.

My house in Evergreen (built 2006) had a combo fiber+ copper cable in one. My parents in Silverado (built 2009 I think) was pure fiber only, no copper, so I would presume it's pure fiber to most communities nowadays, plus of course Shaw coax for peasants.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

In the middle of this right now. Regular reps only offer what's on the site, Loyalty won't even talk to me because I'm on an expiring contract. I was told to call a different number for dealing with people that were on existing plans (1-888-481-1081) but it doesn't open until noon Pacific time for some reason.

Please keep me updated if you don't mind!

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Please keep me updated if you don't mind!

No problem, they offered me $85/mo for Internet 300 or $90/mo for Internet 600, hardware included. Hope that helps!

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

Well I called the regular number, and was told they only have the deals on the site. I'm not sure if it's worth calling that number, or just biting the bullet and upgrading to the "Fibre"+ Gig.