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Buster
03-16-2021, 03:16 PM
For the past...oh...40 years I've always had a car that was a dream car. Something that felt like an aspiration. That car has changed constantly, so what car that is doesn't really matter. However, over the past year or so, I've noticed I'm a lot less interested in cars in general. (I think this is part of the electric car move. They are not interesting to me at all.).

On the other hand, I think part of it is just what I want in a car might be getting "old". I always was excited by fast sports cars...but I've recently started becoming more interested in cruisers, GT cars, and even convertible GT cars.

Anyone else noticing a dramatic change in their car tastes as they get older?

dromz
03-16-2021, 03:32 PM
I just sold my 1991 911 turbo last august, I'm still grieving!! I just found it was getting a little old and valuable and wasn't comfortable enjoying it as much as it deserved. I bought a 2009 BMW Z4 instead.....first Bimmer and the jury is still out. Maybe I'm also getting old and not as interested in cars anymore!!!

Buster
03-16-2021, 03:42 PM
I just sold my 1991 911 turbo last august, I'm still grieving!! I just found it was getting a little old and valuable and wasn't comfortable enjoying it as much as it deserved. I bought a 2009 BMW Z4 instead.....first Bimmer and the jury is still out. Maybe I'm also getting old and not as interested in cars anymore!!!

I always liked those Z4s...why is the jury still out?

ExtraSlow
03-16-2021, 03:45 PM
I never had any taste in cars. So no change there.

Buster
03-16-2021, 03:51 PM
I never had any taste in cars. So no change there.

but you do have preferences, no?

Have they changed a lot?

Twin_Cam_Turbo
03-16-2021, 04:32 PM
I am starting to value comfort and fuel economy a lot more. I’ve been driving ~130k a year for 5 years now.

Tik-Tok
03-16-2021, 04:40 PM
I am starting to value comfort and fuel economy a lot more. I’ve been driving ~130k a year for 5 years now.

:werd: I haven't owned a "fun" car in about 3 years. Normally I'd be itching to get something right about now, but I'm feeling nothing, and my next car will probably be a very boring PHEV.

Mitsu3000gt
03-16-2021, 04:47 PM
Oddly enough my taste has not changed since my late teens - I've always liked fun but practical cars, so I've owned Audi S4's for longer than anything else to date. My first car was a 3000GT hence my user name that I thought was cool when I was 16 haha. It was fun for a couple years in high school but I soon wanted something more useful. Car shopping for me is a multi-month process so I re-evaluate every time it's time to buy something new, and more often than not I still end up liking that same type of vehicle the most. We don't have space for more than two vehicles so I can't have a dedicated sports car. When I moved to an area where I didn't really need to drive or commute anymore, I just bought a basic Civic Hatch because I only drove 3-5K a year - I was caught off guard by how desirable that car was on the used market and I ended up in a multi-offer situation when my lease ran out. I later moved out of the DT core and I'm back to something a little more fun. Probably going to eventually replace the wife's Fit with a smaller SUV when it's time to sell as more and more we find ourselves needing the 'utility' aspect.

JohnnyHockey13
03-16-2021, 04:48 PM
Wow, didn't realize Buster was that old.

I just turned 40 and I still can't see my life without a stick shift sports car.

Before COVID/WFH...I always had 2 vehicles to myself, a sports car and an SUV (or an auto sports car with AWD like the 2009 G37X coupe I had 1 winter).

When WFH happened, I decided to go down to 1 vehicle. At that time I had a 2013 FX37 and a 2012 135i...I chose to keep the sports car but it was a really hard decision.

Flash forward to after actually turning 40, I am finding that I am asking myself more and more whether I made the right decision as sometimes I DON'T want to row my own gears or sit in this tiny, little, loud-ish car where I have to feel every bump in the road, sometime I just want to get to the grocery store and back in luxury/quietness....like what I had in my FX37.

Anyways, getting bored of my 135 and contemplating either going back to a 370Z or go with an FX50S lol...I feel like the FX50S checks a lot of boxes for me BUT I know for a fact that I will miss driving a tiny, fast, stick shift car....maybe I'll find a cheap 350Z for those days.

I think when I'm Buster's age, I will probably want some big ass sedan.

ShermanEF9
03-16-2021, 04:49 PM
As a kid and teen I used to always be about the super cars and the flash.. Now I see things like an MR2, or some of the rarer, but more "attainable" cars and get excited. I also like trucks. Its weird. But not lifted flashy or anything. A brand new stock F150 King Ranch gets me going over a brodozer.

JohnnyHockey13
03-16-2021, 04:52 PM
As a kid and teen I used to always be about the super cars and the flash.. Now I see things like an MR2, or some of the rarer, but more "attainable" cars and get excited. I also like trucks. Its weird. But not lifted flashy or anything. A brand new stock F150 King Ranch gets me going over a brodozer.

I have always hated trucks just because they offer no fun factor whatsoever on the drives. Read an article about electric trucks coming and the benefits of instant torque and am reevaluating my hate for them. I do think a lot of small trucks look awesome, such as the new designed Nissan Frontier or even the current Chevy Colorado ZR2 or whatever they call it.

Kloubek
03-16-2021, 04:58 PM
For me, it was the emergence of my family.

Before the child came along, I mainly drove coupes. Then he came and I went full family with a CX9. Now I have a SUV hauler for the family so I *could* have a coupe again - though I find the XFR is a good compromise so I can actually have a little fun out there even if the family is in tow. I also don't care for the excessively loud exhausts and some of the other kinds of customizations I used to...

ShermanEF9
03-16-2021, 05:02 PM
I also don't care for the excessively loud exhausts and some of the other kinds of customizations I used to...

I think this is a big one. It used to be "How much noise can I make BECAUSE PERFORMANCE" Now I want it to be reasonable. I want to hear it without annoying the general world.

03ozwhip
03-16-2021, 05:11 PM
I decided I'm done with manual cars after my last civic si. Just bored of it and have no use for it. I like driving a decently comfortable, sporty automatic.

For me my 335 fits the bill for everything, fun, pretty quiet and comfortable and it's nice for my long drives. That's all I need these days.

Getting in the Lightning is fun but it's not a far driving vehicle, so it's only good for a few hours, so loud and uncomfortable lol

Buster
03-16-2021, 05:12 PM
Wow, didn't realize Buster was that old.

I just turned 40 and I still can't see my life without a stick shift sports car.

Before COVID/WFH...I always had 2 vehicles to myself, a sports car and an SUV (or an auto sports car with AWD like the 2009 G37X coupe I had 1 winter).

When WFH happened, I decided to go down to 1 vehicle. At that time I had a 2013 FX37 and a 2012 135i...I chose to keep the sports car but it was a really hard decision.

Flash forward to after actually turning 40, I am finding that I am asking myself more and more whether I made the right decision as sometimes I DON'T want to row my own gears or sit in this tiny, little, loud-ish car where I have to feel every bump in the road, sometime I just want to get to the grocery store and back in luxury/quietness....like what I had in my FX37.

Anyways, getting bored of my 135 and contemplating either going back to a 370Z or go with an FX50S lol...I feel like the FX50S checks a lot of boxes for me BUT I know for a fact that I will miss driving a tiny, fast, stick shift car....maybe I'll find a cheap 350Z for those days.

I think when I'm Buster's age, I will probably want some big ass sedan.

I'm 43...lol

Twin_Cam_Turbo
03-16-2021, 05:38 PM
I have always hated trucks just because they offer no fun factor whatsoever on the drives. Read an article about electric trucks coming and the benefits of instant torque and am reevaluating my hate for them. I do think a lot of small trucks look awesome, such as the new designed Nissan Frontier or even the current Chevy Colorado ZR2 or whatever they call it.

Getting on the loud pedal in my Duramax was pretty fun, and some light off roading too. I used to love going to Waiparous etc with friends and would definitely get back into wheeling again if I could.

ExtraSlow
03-16-2021, 05:43 PM
My current truck is the fastest vehicle I've ever owned, and probably the most fun too. Jesus what's that say?

shakalaka
03-16-2021, 05:51 PM
I hope as I get older, I start hating cars and stop changing them like people change fucking underwear.

Buster
03-16-2021, 05:54 PM
I hope as I get older, I start hating cars and stop changing them like people change fucking underwear.

you do need an intervention.

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I hope as I get older, I start hating cars and stop changing them like people change fucking underwear.

actually, you need to start branching out in colors

shakalaka
03-16-2021, 05:56 PM
I won't argue against that, though I am sure there are people much worse out there. On Mbworld, on some topic I had mentioned all my cars I've had over the past 10 years and some poster said that that was an average year for them. lol. So that made me feel better.

never
03-16-2021, 05:57 PM
I’ve come full circle and am now back to mainly having project vehicles...just more effort is going into making the vehicle built like OEM. But I find I still gravitate towards the same style of odd used cars. And I haven’t had any real interest in new vehicles for at least a decade.

legendboy
03-16-2021, 06:10 PM
My taste in vehicles has changed over the years. I had my turbo integra and had a lot of fun with it, owned 4 acura legends prior to that and bought a 94 supra after i sold my teg. I only had that car for 2 months and we found out we were having a baby, sold. About the same time i started to collect machine tools so the garage got filled up and i had no place to build turbo kits or house the supra. That was my last fun car. FF 14 years and I have a pretty nice dodge diesel i have sunk way too much money into, that's my "fun" vehicle now. (bought to tow a 30' trailer)

I would like to have a fun car again but finances and storage are an issue. At 42 my fun car now is a 2010 bone stock civic lol. I guess its a function of priorities and how choose to spend my money.
If I was a baller I would have a fun daily driver but i am not lol :dunno:

ExtraSlow
03-16-2021, 06:14 PM
Most fun vehicle I ever owned, in terms of giving me a smile everywhere I drove, was a 1977 F250 with a 460. Was rusted to hell, and a pain to park, and rode far too stiff, but made loud noises and gave me joy like nothing else. Also had an unending stream of people trying to buy it from me. Like I couldn't get fuel without getting cash offers. And I got fuel a lot!

benyl
03-16-2021, 06:26 PM
The only thing I miss is the startup of my E63.

My tastes have changed. I used to care about brand (German), origin (German), handmade engines (AMG), sound (AMG). IDGAF about any of that anymore.

One thing that hasn't changed is "bang for the buck" and Horsepower.

My money is now going into the house and MTB. Cause vacations aren't happening... lol

killramos
03-16-2021, 06:32 PM
I think my taste has been reasonably consistent. I have wanted an M3 (e46) since I was 10, and always loved small German cars with too much horsepower. When friends would talk up ferraris and lamborghinis I would always whip out an M3 into the convo as what I’d rather be in.

First car was a GTI, loved that. Upgraded to a 235, great car and was pretty happy to be in a bmw. Tried the C63 for a whole which was awesome and loved that engine. Now in an M2 which just suits me so well.

Poked around With my Jeep and my Truck, thought the off road thing was cool but never actually used it. Was nice having utility but not nice enough to keep money parked in a truck. Next “truck” I own won’t be anything resembling new imo. Maybe an exception for a G class.

Would also love some time in a V12 Aston for a while ( Think a DBS would be amazing ).

I have less than no interest in an electric car, In fact I don’t think many carmakers make anything that really gets me excited anymore.

Clever
03-16-2021, 07:28 PM
Bought an LS 400 to tinker with 2 years ago, I drove it all winter and love it. I am now in the market for another LS either a 460 or 600, I previously owned 5 series’s and then Jeep’s, SUV’s and currently have a truck. I’m 42 and will always own a truck but I’m ready for the boring grampa car for a daily, not that I had fun fast cars before, but I’ll take comfort over excitement nowadays.

ThePenIsMightier
03-16-2021, 07:48 PM
I've changed from the "poster on the wall, as a kid" days; but, does that really mean anything?. After owning a Z which just has only 2 seats and fuck-all room for anything else, the desire to get luxurious sleepers grows, right in my plums.
I used to really really want an RS4 and that'd be for many of the same reasons that I'd now like an LX570. The Gentleman's Ferrari cars are helicopter-money new, and if you find yourself liking those, you've entered a new area because they're: front-engine, automatic (gasp!), not sold in red, don't look like a space ship, but still cost $100k more. Like Sergio P said, "I drive this one. Those others are for kids with pointy shoes."

I guess I like hockey-fight cars. "Controlled mayhem" or "a lot of noise and excitement, but has a purpose".

And if you've convinced yourself that you actually want to go fast, get a crotch rocket. Taste death and still twist throttle. Shut up and do 330km/h or realize that isn't what you thought you wanted because chances are, it isn't.


*Figurative "you"

Team_Mclaren
03-16-2021, 08:01 PM
Great thread and discussion.

My wants has definitely has changed. I no longer want a "sports" car. But something big and comfortable. I dont even enjoy driving my wife's M2 much anymore..

Another thing I find is that I want to look for cars that i dreamed about when i was a teenage. Now that they are cheap (for the most part, san NSX) and I have the money for them. All the different cars that I saw on the road and thought I'd never be able to afford. Which is why I bought the W220. (IE: old german cars).

skandalouz_08
03-16-2021, 08:21 PM
I would agree with this as I went from a 330i to a big ass Cayenne. Comfy AF, still fast with the Turbo when I want it but also super practical for family trips and 2 car seats in the back. Definitely want a sports car still but would have to be a second vehicle as getting rid of this DD is going to be hard.

schurchill39
03-16-2021, 08:35 PM
I was always into small cars when I was in my teens to early 20s, specifically s13/s14 and early 90's fox body mustangs. I never wanted a truck but when I finally got one on a to-good-to-be-true deal I was hooked. It was a regular cab, long box, one wheel drive v6 Sierra and a huge piece of shit in almost every way but the utility of it was awesome. Since then I have only owned trucks and likely would not buy another car unless it was a muscle car. I enjoy driving my Ford and little tweaks to it here and there bring me a lot of joy. Now in my 30's when people talk about BMW, MB, Audi or Trackhawks it just sounds like the adults on Peanuts. To be honest I'd rather be comfortable driving than go fast and I enjoy the creature comforts in the cab.

finboy
03-16-2021, 08:36 PM
Still love manuals, but I didn’t drive to work before covid and won’t after. I treat driving like any other hobby, I’m lucky I don’t have to rush hour drive so stick never gets tired for me.

With that said, I see what’s in the horizon and there are a lot more cars I want to own before everything is an automatic electric car and we can’t drive over 30.

BavarianBeast
03-16-2021, 09:56 PM
I still have the same taste and passion for cars, but my desire to own them is becoming less as I get older. I always thought I would have a huge collection if I ever had the money, but now I realize how much of a headache owning more than a few cars becomes when you want to enjoy and take proper care of them. In the future I could see myself owning one sports car and one truck and being very happy with the fleet.

Shlade
03-16-2021, 11:50 PM
I like more practical vehicles now. SUV's or trucks. Something I can take off road if I need to.

Buster
03-17-2021, 12:41 AM
I still have the same taste and passion for cars, but my desire to own them is becoming less as I get older. I always thought I would have a huge collection if I ever had the money, but now I realize how much of a headache owning more than a few cars becomes when you want to enjoy and take proper care of them. In the future I could see myself owning one sports car and one truck and being very happy with the fleet.

This is a really good description. Cars are awesome - but ownership is a pain. Selling is a pain, etc.

nicknolte
03-17-2021, 03:19 AM
Still love manuals, but I didnÂ’t drive to work before covid and wonÂ’t after. I treat driving like any other hobby, IÂ’m lucky I donÂ’t have to rush hour drive so stick never gets tired for me.

With that said, I see whatÂ’s in the horizon and there are a lot more cars I want to own before everything is an automatic electric car and we canÂ’t drive over 30.

Ditto. Auto daily driver with a manual "fun" car is the best way to go.

As long as the government allows us to have small, sporty Japanese ICE cars, there will be a manual one sitting in my garage for any driving that needs to be done outside of rush hour.

spikerS
03-17-2021, 05:31 AM
I am with ExtraSlow on this one. I think my F150s have been my favorite vehicles to date. When I started my family, I gave up my project cars, and even sold my last one, a 1989 civic on here, and started buying newer, more reliable vehicles. Since then, while I do miss wrenching occasionally, I have really come to appreciate that all I have to do is scheduled maintenance, and I never worry about breaking down, and if I will be able to fix it roadside.

Having said that, I still want a 25th-anniversary edition Lamborghini Countach. It is still my dream car to this day.

I keep thinking I should maybe look at a car and then snap back to reality and that truck life suits me perfectly. The ONLY time I wish I had a smaller vehicle is in smaller parking lots, but I know my truck so well, I can pretty much park it into the tightest spots with relative ease.

zechs
03-17-2021, 07:47 AM
I still like most different types of vehicles, has never changed. Do not care to own anything exotic past maybe an 80's Porsche or Ferrari

Except for trucks, manual transmission or bust. I'd probably buy a truck even with a manual to this day, but they aren't offered and the auto's get the same or better mpg.

I'm also a minimalist. The 2020 ferd doesn't do anything much better than a mid 2000's pickup did. I really like the Ford, but if it wasn't for my company, I would still be rocking the old trucks.

bjstare
03-17-2021, 08:09 AM
I still like cars that are fast/fun/engaging... that hasn't changed, however as I've gotten older I've found that my interest in modifying cars has gone to nearly zero. If there's something I don't like about my car, I figure out what other cars are out there that will fill the gap and replace with one of them.

As much as people like to complain that cars aren't reliable or well built, the engineers/car companies actually do a pretty damn good job. It's really tough (not to mention expensive) to modify a good car and actually make it better without some sort of sacrifice in driveability, reliability, comfort, etc.

Hallowed_point
03-17-2021, 08:27 AM
I'll be 36 in June, longest I've kept a car was 2 years & 10 months (98 Z/28 Camaro.) There's the old adage that you need more than one car if you're going to have a summer car here. And that's all fine and good, but other issues creep up with parking, extra insurance policy, another vehicle to maintain/register etc. It's a bit of hassle neverminded the added expenses. Part of the problem is living in Alberta, if I was back in BC I could drive my white trash Ferrari all year (more or less.) Both of my vehicles are stick shift, no issue with that. I can't imagine driving my camaro ss 365 days a year like I used to do with my old one. I like the noises it makes and a lot of the quirks and "character" with an older 90's platform but it sure is nice to get back into a quieter, smoother riding vehicle as it's a little draining after awhile. But it is cool to have something that people don't see every day here.

Sometimes think of selling the camaro and picking up a Pontiac G8 GT, 04-06 Pontiac GTO as it's closer to the best of both worlds. But I've also learned that every car will have things that you don't like about it, which starts the endless cycle of modifications .. :rofl:

Twin_Cam_Turbo
03-17-2021, 08:34 AM
I definitely agree as I age I think about the ownership experience quite a bit before buying. I really want a 997 GT3 or NA1/2 NSX but I imagine they are expensive to run, expensive to insure, they are definitely expensive to buy. I wouldn’t be able to afford to daily drive it, I definitely couldn’t afford to track them so at best it’s a 6 month of the year Sunday car for me, what’s the point of spending all that money.

Hallowed_point
03-17-2021, 08:48 AM
I definitely agree as I age I think about the ownership experience quite a bit before buying. I really want a 997 GT3 or NA1/2 NSX but I imagine they are expensive to run, expensive to insure, they are definitely expensive to buy. I wouldn’t be able to afford to daily drive it, I definitely couldn’t afford to track them so at best it’s a 6 month of the year Sunday car for me, what’s the point of spending all that money.

Yep, hard to argue with that. The season is short here.

rx7boi
03-17-2021, 09:08 AM
I can't speak to the cars themselves since that's not where I spend my money on.

I drive slower now, though. Always used to push 10-15 over posted limit but now I'm content to get to where I need to be doing 10 under :rofl: :rofl:

JustinL
03-17-2021, 09:15 AM
Ditto. Auto daily driver with a manual "fun" car is the best way to go.

As long as the government allows us to have small, sporty Japanese ICE cars, there will be a manual one sitting in my garage for any driving that needs to be done outside of rush hour.

Same for me. I still love powerful RWD manual cars. I also really like interesting cars. My commuter is a Model 3, which I think is pretty interesting and fun to drive, but with minimal maintenance. I used to commute in an E46 M3, and followed that with a B8.5 S4, but with kids and less time, I want to save my wrench turning time for my old 944 Turbo and the race cars. The biggest change I've had in my sports car tastes came with having kids too. No longer do I go into the Porsche builder to price out GT3s, GT4s, Boxster Spyders, but now I look at C2S because they have back seats.

Masked Bandit
03-17-2021, 09:29 AM
I'm getting to the point with my "fun" car as I was six years ago with my motorcycle...I don't really enjoy driving it unless I'm behaving like a complete F'ing degenerate and frankly I know that's not appropriate long term. I still have a need for a half ton but that may come to a close in a few years at which point I could see myself getting into a deep money SUV, something that almost drives like a performance car. Right now I can't justify owning a pick-up and an SUV (for myself) and the TRX is close to checking all the boxes but I simply refuse to pay over sticker for bloody truck.

Hallowed_point
03-17-2021, 09:43 AM
I suppose the biggest change for me was the realization that FWD, RWD & AWD cars can all be fun as a daily.

That is with the assumption that the FWD platform is performance oriented such as a Civic Si.

AWD launches are consistent and addictive, N/A V8 with a well specced AWD would be heaven :drool: need to LS swap my TL

brucebanner
03-17-2021, 09:43 AM
In my early driving years I was all about manual cars. They were cheap and fun but definitely not fast.

After I bought my first truck around 2012, I've always liked having one but kind of boring. I stepped away from trucks for 2 years or so when I got into a golf R, to this day one of my most favorite daily drivers.

Ever since I've been buying "summer cars" they've always have been American muscle cars of some sort. I'm starting to dislike storing those the rest of the year when I don't use them but I really enjoy having and driving something old / unique. I'm looking at modernizing my '65 in the coming years so it's more comfortable and will be more enjoyable on longer drives.

Right now I think I'd like to have one more vehicle for my use.

Truck for daily as it's a good family hauler and comfortable.

My '65 because I enjoy having something old.

And what I'd like to add, would be a new(er) zl1 or something in that segment. But that circles back to storing more vehicles, which is something I don't want to do haha. We have too short of a driving season.

So trackhawk it is a guess :dunno:

riander5
03-17-2021, 09:59 AM
My tastes are getting more expensive and my desire to have car payments is zero so combined I am still without a fun car

SSO
03-17-2021, 09:59 AM
With age I find I am more interested in a safety. Cars built on carbon fiber tubs are much more appealing these days than late 60's brittle steel tubular chassis.

mr2mike
03-17-2021, 10:13 AM
My interest in a car that doesn't run, sitting in the garage is still present.

nismodrifter
03-17-2021, 10:31 AM
Good thread/topic.

After doing some real soul searching over the past few years my definition of fun and happiness in general has changed.
I used to think that a fleet of sports cars/exotics (3-4) was exciting and something that I wanted in my life. Nope. No way. Never going to do this.

I have 1 daily driver (Infiniti EX37) which I put a whopping 4000km on over the past 12 months as I work from home 80% of the time.
My sports car is super exciting. I drive it once per week, and it brings about a sensory overload. It is not fast by any means, but damn is it fun to drive. I literally have a smile from ear to ear after a short 30 minute drive through the backroads. It is my stress relief. I will never sell it.
These 2 vehicles fulfill my needs/desires for everything automotive at this point in time. One vehicle serves as transport from point A->B with the second vehicle allowing me to spend time on it tinkering/detailing/wrenching. I really have zero desire for anything different at this point.

New cars have never interested me. I have zero interest in all the electronic gadgetry, massaging seats, GPS, mood lighting, etc.
I am interested in older stuff such as MKIV VW R32, W126 SEC, W126 Sedan, 944 Turbo, Ferrari 550. I will add a 911 Turbo to the garage at some point in my life, who knows when, but it's been a child hood dream of mine that I will fulfill at some point. Might need to do that sooner because MANUEL going up in price. Ugh.

So, all in all, do not want multiple high end cars anymore. I think the next thing to do will be upgrading the EX37 to something larger whenever we have another kid, and then I will have some time to think about adding one of the previous mentioned vehicle to my garage along with a lift.

JfuckinC
03-17-2021, 10:38 AM
This hits close to home right now haha

i have been having a vehicular identity crisis lately... Thinking what if i finish my car and it's loud, obnoxious, a rough ride and uncomfortable for me(i'm too big for it physically) that i don't even wanna drive it? I'm sure i'll end up loving it, but the grass is always greener.. what about an M5? or CLS63? or 911? fast and comfortable...... :drama:

Edit: and like TwinCamTurbo said, i wont even be able to drive it most of the year...

you&me
03-17-2021, 10:42 AM
This hits close to home right now haha

i have been having a vehicular identity crisis lately... Thinking what if i finish my car and it's loud, obnoxious, a rough ride and uncomfortable for me(i'm too big for it physically) that i don't even wanna drive it? I'm sure i'll end up loving it, but the grass is always greener.. what about an M5? or CLS63? or 911? fast and comfortable...... :drama:

Edit: and like TwinCamTurbo said, i wont even be able to drive it most of the year...

You can drive any of those cars year-round, if you want...

bjstare
03-17-2021, 10:47 AM
M5 (newer with awd), CLS63 and 911 are all fantastic year round drivers. I think he was talking about his camaro build though?

Euro_Trash
03-17-2021, 11:37 AM
I would answer this completely different depending on the day - in the summers I commute in an E46 M3 and if it's a quiet morning I fall in love with it all over again (and then start thinking about putting money into it). But a lot of days I wonder why I have it versus a year round commuter, especially when there are so many other options to spend money on (not to mention the extra spot in the garage would be nice). We want to get a boat in the next few years so I'll probably drive it until we commit to that and then debate. I suspect if the car goes this will be my last 'fun car' for quite some time - would probably spend the next couple years more focused on upgrading the truck and SUV.

JfuckinC
03-17-2021, 12:34 PM
Ya, I meant the Camaro haha, I'd definitely drive those in the winter, which is another pro in their case.

heavyD
03-17-2021, 01:01 PM
My tases in cars hasn't changed all that much and maybe my taste in brands has. I really don't care for Japanese vehicles these days after owning them almost exclusively for some time. They are all so ugly and most have pretty outdated tech relative to the Germans and even the Koreans and domestics.

C4S
03-17-2021, 01:03 PM
It is ok and common to change taste, but gotta keep your dream .. :P

4WARNED
03-17-2021, 03:11 PM
Getting in the Lightning is fun but it's not a far driving vehicle, so it's only good for a few hours, so loud and uncomfortable lol

Really? i always thought they were quite comfortable seats for long highway travels.

03ozwhip
03-17-2021, 04:09 PM
Really? i always thought they were quite comfortable seats for long highway travels.

Actually the seats are comfortable, its the suspension that makes it uncomfortable. Not even really uncomfortable, just not great for long drives, couple hours here and there.

Twin_Cam_Turbo
03-17-2021, 04:58 PM
I’ve kinda already mentally committed myself to a Macan GTS or Turbo for my next car.

88CRX
03-17-2021, 05:03 PM
Still a ricer. But I can appreciate a slightly softer suspension setup these days.

No way would I ever want to drive a modified car every day. FML. So I guess thats changed.

ThePenIsMightier
03-17-2021, 06:29 PM
I just remembered how much I used to love the VW Cabriolet, Civic Del Sol and Mazda Miata.
Now I don't love those and I've found my ass feels way better.
I wonder what that's about...

bjstare
03-17-2021, 07:22 PM
I just remembered how much I used to love the VW Cabriolet, Civic Del Sol and Mazda Miata.
Now I don't love those and I've found my ass feels way better.
I wonder what that's about...

Something to do with the stiff ride.

ThePenIsMightier
03-17-2021, 07:30 PM
Something to do with the stiff ride.

Prolly for the best once my leather pants stopped during so well.

skandalouz_08
03-17-2021, 07:48 PM
I’ve kinda already mentally committed myself to a Macan GTS or Turbo for my next car.

Nothing wrong with either of those. Small enough that it still drives like a car, low, yet high enough to see above the cars in front of you and plenty of speed/torque! If I didn't need the car seats and trunk space for travel I'd go down to a Macan.

SKR
03-17-2021, 08:47 PM
Only thing I think is I have next to no desire for a new vehicle. There's too many gadgets and dials and switches and levers on new cars that I either don't want or don't know how to use.

ExtraSlow
03-17-2021, 08:48 PM
How about a mid 90s suburban?

Disoblige
03-17-2021, 08:53 PM
How about a mid 90s suburban?
You are not the first middle aged thrifty white guy I heard mention this before, lol.

mr2mike
03-17-2021, 09:19 PM
Thrifty? Then you're not gassing it up right.
140L tank and 13 mpg.

Disoblige
03-17-2021, 09:57 PM
Thrifty? Then you're not gassing it up right.
140L tank and 13 mpg.
Oh ExtraSlow would never buy one, he would just suggest it. Same as my friend lol.

BavarianBeast
03-17-2021, 10:01 PM
I guess I’m just happy I’m not into EVs yet. If that ever happens, it’s a good sign that I should file for divorce and start a Grindr account.

Buster
03-18-2021, 12:11 AM
I guess I’m just happy I’m not into EVs yet. If that ever happens, it’s a good sign that I should file for divorce and start a Grindr account.

Post of the year

SKR
03-18-2021, 05:21 AM
How about a mid 90s suburban?

90s GM vehicles meet probably 90-95% of my current vehicular hopes and dreams, including a Suburban.

finboy
03-18-2021, 06:01 AM
I guess I’m just happy I’m not into EVs yet. If that ever happens, it’s a good sign that I should file for divorce and start a Grindr account.

:rofl:

shakalaka
03-18-2021, 08:12 AM
I guess I’m just happy I’m not into EVs yet. If that ever happens, it’s a good sign that I should file for divorce and start a Grindr account.

:werd:

Hallowed_point
03-18-2021, 08:15 AM
I think a lot of it has to do with how good a lot of modern (last decade or so anyway) "sporty" daily driver type cars have become. The amount of things that you have to upgrade on most 80's - early 2000's budget performance cars to make them decent gets kind of old fast. tiny single piston front brakes, mushy suspension etc etc. It's not just the money, it's also the aggravation and time plus dealing with a lot of aftermarket stuff that comes with compromise vs a well sorted factory car. Guess that's why this hobby is predominantly for teenagers :rofl:

ExtraSlow
03-18-2021, 08:20 AM
Oh ExtraSlow would never buy one, he would just suggest it. Same as my friend lol.

I feel so seen from this comment.

Neil4Speed
03-18-2021, 08:39 AM
Nothing wrong with either of those. Small enough that it still drives like a car, low, yet high enough to see above the cars in front of you and plenty of speed/torque! If I didn't need the car seats and trunk space for travel I'd go down to a Macan.

I know its not the same car.. but I just adore my Cayenne Diesel. For me, the perfect car in that it gives me all of the practicality but still feels 'special". Of course, fairly comfortable, but the steering, braking and suspension and overall driving experience is just so great. I love the old school nature of certain things, buttons for everything (no smudgy touch panels).

I hate how Porsche does standard options and their maintenance through the dealer, but man... I am converted.

I realized though after owning the TLX, it what makes me happy is not necessarily performance or looks etc. but more so having something "special". Something that is unique, not meant for everyone where you feel good being in it. Could be an old Lexus/Mercedes or a Honda Prelude, or a Cobalt SS Supercharged.

Xtrema
03-18-2021, 09:13 AM
JIT


https://youtu.be/Mx240ULjw5w

XylathaneGTR
03-18-2021, 09:16 AM
what makes me happy is not necessarily performance or looks etc. but more so having something "special". Something that is unique, not meant for everyone where you feel good being in it. Could be an old Lexus/Mercedes or a Honda Prelude, or a Cobalt SS Supercharged.

I think that resonates with a lot of people, myself included. Everyone wants something which satisfies their personal value equation and feels "right" for them. By nature of us being on this forum, we have a greater than minimal interest in cars and that's where that "special" factor and fondness comes into play.
Growing up I despised wagons and hatchbacks, but my previous and current vehicle are wagons and I don't really have an interest in owning any other body style; part of that is definitely the "special" feeling they provide to me, since you don't see too many of them around.

killramos
03-18-2021, 10:09 AM
I guess I’m just happy I’m not into EVs yet. If that ever happens, it’s a good sign that I should file for divorce and start a Grindr account.

I think an EV would make a great car for my wife. She can trade never filling it up with never plugging it in.

If she had a PHEV she could even do both!

T-Dubbs
03-18-2021, 11:08 AM
I know its not the same car.. but I just adore my Cayenne Diesel. For me, the perfect car in that it gives me all of the practicality but still feels 'special". Of course, fairly comfortable, but the steering, braking and suspension and overall driving experience is just so great.

Kind of the reasons why I love my diesel x5.
Are you still in warranty? or have you looked at deletes yet?

rage2
03-18-2021, 11:09 AM
I think an EV would make a great car for my wife. She can trade never filling it up with never plugging it in.

If she had a PHEV she could even do both!
My ex refused to get gas. Probably why we’re divorced. In your case, since you just had a baby, the ROI is probably more tilted towards you getting gas for life.

killramos
03-18-2021, 11:25 AM
My ex refused to get gas. Probably why we’re divorced. In your case, since you just had a baby, the ROI is probably more tilted towards you getting gas for life.

I told her if she runs out don’t call me :rofl:

I do wash her car though.

ExtraSlow
03-18-2021, 01:10 PM
All the better to just never drive her car. That's the winning move.

Ekliptix
03-18-2021, 01:27 PM
Since Race City closed down, I think a lot of people's car passion has declined, at least mine. I was actually drag racing at a track, often, as recently as 5 years ago, when I lived in Houston. Had a C6 Z06 and loved it.

I live in the country now, with a dirty muddy gravel road, so it's impractical to have a sports car right now. I still have 2 classic cars (1970 blazer, 1972 C10), but it's VERY rare that I drive them, due to a) winter and b) being in the goddam country. I'm moving into the city within the next year, so I'm looking forward to driving and enjoying my classic cars more.

As far as enjoying a sports car again, I still dream of a nardo grey Audi RS7 with stage 2 as my DD. The Infinity G50/60 has recently caught my eye since it's TT 3.0 seems to make 450hp pretty easy with bolt ons. It just looks boring as hell.
Covid has made driving a rare thing, so cars in general have taken a back seat for me.

I still want my dream fleet:
- Fox body notchback, turbo V8 6 speed, full suspension, black interior, etc.
- Newer 4 door pick up for sledding and family trips. 3L duramax AT4 would be awesome.
- RS7 with light mods, or Jag F Type R. AWD, DD.
- My current C10 with never-ending improvements.
Big garage with a lift.

Is that too much to ask for?

kJUMP
03-19-2021, 08:32 AM
I’ve kinda already mentally committed myself to a Macan GTS or Turbo for my next car.

Good choice, though I would wait for the new model release, whenever that is. The center console with 100 buttons and analog instrument cluster are a bit dated, in my opinion. Everything else is awesome.

vengie
03-19-2021, 08:54 AM
Since Race City closed down, I think a lot of people's car passion has declined, at least mine. I was actually drag racing at a track, often, as recently as 5 years ago, when I lived in Houston. Had a C6 Z06 and loved it.



The lack of a proper facility has definitely factored into my car choices over the last while.

I'm currently all about simplicity, easy to maintain, reliable, and good on fuel.
I simply don't care what I drive, nor what people's impressions are of me when I drive it.
I've been rocking a 2007 Honda Fit for almost three years, and its been great.

~$35 to fill, tank lasts me a week
Can fit an insane amount of cargo in it
Simple, and easy to work on

Yes I get beaked about it quite a bit as a "professional" downtown, but I'm not in sales, nor do they pay me a car allowance to buy a nice car (which I likely would pocket anyways lol).
If I head to the field, I rent a truck on my expense account.

Don't get me wrong, if we had a track I'd likely spend a little more on a fun vehicle, but until then I'd rather reach my financial goals in the short term rather than my automotive goals.

Twin_Cam_Turbo
03-19-2021, 09:57 AM
Good choice, though I would wait for the new model release, whenever that is. The center console with 100 buttons and analog instrument cluster are a bit dated, in my opinion. Everything else is awesome.

I’d be buying used, don’t have the income for the real P car experience. My parents take delivery of a Macan next week so likely when they are too old to drive I’m going to buy that and my dads other two cars off of them to keep them in the family since I know they will be the best of the best and low mileage.

rage2
03-19-2021, 10:22 AM
Getting old definitely changed my tastes like most of you guys. I had a taste of a well balanced car (CLS550) a few years back and was shocked at how much I loved the car. At the time, just wasn't ready for something so soft as DD. The RC-F really changed my perception as to what I want, if I can get decent enough handling out of the car, that satisfies my fun needs. I didn't really care about straight line speed anymore, as long as I have enough power to pass people on BC highways (400+hp) haha. The most important was the comforts in the car because I spend a decent amount of hours driving. I can't stand shitty interiors anymore, again thanks to the RC-F upping the bar.

If this WFH thing is long term, I expect to change my list of things I need/want yet again.

heavyD
03-19-2021, 12:37 PM
Yeah I put a lot more weight into interiors than I used to. The days of driving vehicles like EVO's and STI's with their substandard interiors are way behind me. I don't like the exterior styling of MB vehicles but I'm drawn to them because of their interiors. I just wish the AMG CLA45 wasn't so overpriced as that would be the perfect daily for me.

SingleBarrel
03-22-2021, 07:11 AM
Yeah, I hear ya talking Buster.
I've gone 'full-on midlife crisis' and abandoned any aspirations of owning a sports car ever again.

Now its all about comfort, safety, leg room in the back seats... and Lots of space in the trunk.

I know. Very sad? But it does make me aheppy.

:)

ExtraSlow
03-22-2021, 07:15 AM
... leg room in the back seats... I hear that brother.

killramos
03-22-2021, 07:30 AM
I hear that brother.

I thought that was only important in high school...

I can afford a bed now lol.

ThePenIsMightier
03-22-2021, 07:49 AM
I thought that was only important in high school...

I can afford a bed now lol.

I thought that Dr. Skeletor thing said we're supposed to be using glory holes. Am I the only one around here following the rules!!?

killramos
03-22-2021, 07:59 AM
I thought that Dr. Skeletor thing said we're supposed to be using glory holes. Am I the only one around here following the rules!!?
Yes

Neil4Speed
03-22-2021, 09:04 AM
Kind of the reasons why I love my diesel x5.
Are you still in warranty? or have you looked at deletes yet?

I am in warranty (Dieselgate warranty), considering deletes down the road but reasonably speaking - haven't felt the need. I think my only concern is that the exhaust note is a bit lame, but I don't want to modify anything until the warranty is over.

blownz
03-28-2021, 01:19 PM
The talk about caring more about interiors is the difference for me over the years. I spend a decent amount of time in my vehicle so I care about the looks, feel, and quality of the interior and the stereo. Power and good ride/handling balance is also very important, but not extremes. The older I get (44 now) I also care less about badge and being flashy. I used to no matter what vehicle put aftermarket wheels on "just to be different". Now I don't like drawing any unnecessary attention to myself or my vehicles. Silver or gray in color and looking stock (although I still do window tint). The more incognito the better. That has actually been the best part of going from BMW's to the Genesis. People make comments about me driving a Hyundai or Kia and I actually like that.


On the wife filling up subtopic here, my wife has always said filling up is a blue job and to be honest I won't even let her do it because a huge pet peeve of mine is not resetting trip odometer and l/100km tracker. Silly, but it is what it is.

Mitsu3000gt
03-28-2021, 01:24 PM
On the wife filling up subtopic here, my wife has always said filling up is a blue job and to be honest I won't even let her do it because a huge pet peeve of mine is not resetting trip odometer and l/100km tracker. Silly, but it is what it is.


You might have an option to have the trip odometer automatically reset on fill up - some very cheap cars have that feature so I wouldn't be surprised if your Genesis can do it too. On my old car I had to enable it in the menu but it was there.

killramos
03-28-2021, 01:30 PM
A blue job? lol

My wife doesn’t fill up because she’s lazy. Not because she’s a douchebag.