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saiyajin
03-25-2021, 01:50 PM
so one of the hub rings off my summer wheels snapped during the swap over to winter wheels last season. They were plastic so didn't expect them to last long.

wondering if you guys know where i can grab another or if i have to get another set of 4, will need it soon once swapping over to summer set in next month or so. Thanks in advance

:burnout:

bjstare
03-25-2021, 02:06 PM
so one of the hub rings off my summer wheels snapped during the swap over to winter wheels last season. They were plastic so didn't expect them to last long.

wondering if you guys know where i can grab another or if i have to get another set of 4, will need it soon once swapping over to summer set in next month or so. Thanks in advance

:burnout:

I got some copper ones from tirebob last year.

tirebob
03-25-2021, 02:43 PM
More often than not we do recommend plastic for most peoples convenience simply because they will not corrode to the hub due to dissimilar metals contacting each other exposed to the elements, but you do need to be more careful when changing them in and out to avoid what you are talking about., but sometimes stock may only be around in one or the other making the decision for you. That said, metal is also usually a good chunk more than plastic so that can be a consideration for some

We do keep most sizes and configurations in stock all the time, but there are some oddballs out there that might require special ordering.

ThePenIsMightier
03-25-2021, 03:19 PM
I suppose I should just Google, but can anyone provide a scientific explanation (link) on how hub rings do anything more than the square root of fuck all?

I'm open to the idea that they do something because I've heard it enough times... But... 85ft-lb on five 21mm nuts on a bolt circle seems like a thing that's not going anywhere.
:dunno:

I wanna be wrong, but how could they possibly be doing anything?

tirebob
03-25-2021, 03:25 PM
It has nothing to do with holding the weight of the car up. It is all about centring the wheels during the tightening process. In theory you would not think it should not do much assuming someone does everything properly, but in practice it makes all the difference in the world. I can't tell you how many times people insist their problem is balance or a defective tire or a defective wheel and they absolutely refuse to believe hub rings will fix their problem, and then I finally convince them to just pop them in and try it and sure enough, every single issue is gone and they come in apologizing for being such idiots to begin with.

ThePenIsMightier
03-25-2021, 03:35 PM
I have a car with them and maybe I should try not installing them this summer to see if I notice a difference.
I've heard so many stories exactly like you've just said. Maybe feeling will be believing!

tirebob
03-25-2021, 03:42 PM
I have a car with them and maybe I should try not installing them this summer to see if I notice a difference.
I've heard so many stories exactly like you've just said. Maybe feeling will be believing!

I can't honestly tell you every single situation is the same for everyone either, but more often than not by far this is the case. Some cars are much more sensitive than other cars too. I would like to hear back though on your experiment!

saiyajin
03-26-2021, 07:22 AM
More often than not we do recommend plastic for most peoples convenience simply because they will not corrode to the hub due to dissimilar metals contacting each other exposed to the elements, but you do need to be more careful when changing them in and out to avoid what you are talking about., but sometimes stock may only be around in one or the other making the decision for you. That said, metal is also usually a good chunk more than plastic so that can be a consideration for some

We do keep most sizes and configurations in stock all the time, but there are some oddballs out there that might require special ordering.

thanks Bob, probably give you guys a visit and pick up a set :thumbsup:

e31
03-26-2021, 03:27 PM
It may also benefit a few people to know that not all plastic hub-centric spacers are the same quality. I've bought numerous sets of these things for my cars and I've found that almost all of them are made of brittle material = 1 time use.

I got a set of these 1.54mm thick green/yellow ones with an early 80's BMW about 10 years ago, and they are still flexible when gently squeezed.
98257

legendboy
03-27-2021, 07:52 PM
I would suggest Nylatron or Delrin material

cyra1ax
03-28-2021, 02:39 PM
I got aluminum ones from Vex.

saiyajin
03-29-2021, 07:14 AM
I made the mistake of hitting up UrbanX on over the weekend and they were closed :banghead:

will see try again through the week

tirebob
03-29-2021, 07:30 AM
I made the mistake of hitting up UrbanX on over the weekend and they were closed :banghead:

will see try again through the weekSorry man! Just Monday to Friday... Only open up Saturdays for overflow when the season is out of control.

ExtraSlow
03-29-2021, 08:18 AM
Now that Bob is WFH he's incredibly responsive by email. Try that if you are computer-bound nerd like me

firebane
03-29-2021, 08:26 AM
It has nothing to do with holding the weight of the car up. It is all about centring the wheels during the tightening process. In theory you would not think it should not do much assuming someone does everything properly, but in practice it makes all the difference in the world. I can't tell you how many times people insist their problem is balance or a defective tire or a defective wheel and they absolutely refuse to believe hub rings will fix their problem, and then I finally convince them to just pop them in and try it and sure enough, every single issue is gone and they come in apologizing for being such idiots to begin with.

Funny.. We put some wheels on a car we just sold and nothing we could do would fix the bad shake in the front end. We were going to put hub rings on but we sold the car before hand.

You always hear people say "Just line it up with your lug nuts" but that situation made me a firm believer in hub rings.

tirebob
03-29-2021, 09:50 AM
Now that Bob is WFH he's incredibly responsive by email. Try that if you are computer-bound nerd like meExcept today... Today I have to run in for some meetings so replies will be a bit later! haha!