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SingleBarrel
04-20-2021, 06:19 AM
Have you seen the news about the latest fatal, no-driver crash in Texas?
Apparently there was nobody in the driver's seat of a Model S when it crashed into a tree. And two people were killed.
Crashed into a tree!!

Story here: CNN Texas Crash (https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/19/business/tesla-fatal-crash-no-one-in-drivers-seat/index.html)

This driver-free car idea is getting scary.

rage2
04-20-2021, 07:23 AM
Have you seen the news about the latest fatal, no-driver crash in Texas?
Apparently there was nobody in the driver's seat of a Model S when it crashed into a tree. And two people were killed.
Crashed into a tree!!

Story here: CNN Texas Crash (https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/19/business/tesla-fatal-crash-no-one-in-drivers-seat/index.html)

This driver-free car idea is getting scary.
Teslas are not self driving or driver free cars. Nothing scary about a car that needs a driver crashing when there’s no driver.

dirtsniffer
04-20-2021, 07:53 AM
98733

The ensuing fire is scary. wouldn't want to get knocked unconscious in a wreck

https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/tesla-spring-crash-fire/285-c28a4993-5b5f-43f4-a924-e39638390647

ThePenIsMightier
04-20-2021, 08:13 AM
Remember when YouTube was new and squids would upload footage of them cracking 300 on a bike and then they'd promptly be tracked down by the police, arrested, and then mocked by the mainstream local media?

Now, you can create a channel of nothing but videos of you making breaded shrimp in the backseat of your Tesla while it drives you on the highway and it's socially acceptable enough that you can make money from it.

It seems like technology is no longer a progressive force in our society.

benyl
04-20-2021, 09:28 AM
98733

The ensuing fire is scary. wouldn't want to get knocked unconscious in a wreck

https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/tesla-spring-crash-fire/285-c28a4993-5b5f-43f4-a924-e39638390647

All car fires are scary.

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/man-seriously-injured-after-car-rolls-over-catches-fire-1.5385414

https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.5385417.1618325370!/httpImage/image.jpeg_gen/derivatives/landscape_1020/image.jpeg

killramos
04-20-2021, 09:38 AM
All car fires are scary.

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/man-seriously-injured-after-car-rolls-over-catches-fire-1.5385414

https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.5385417.1618325370!/httpImage/image.jpeg_gen/derivatives/landscape_1020/image.jpeg

Is that a Prius?

Maybe not the best example :rofl:

Rocket1k78
04-20-2021, 09:40 AM
Nothing scary about a car that needs a driver crashing when there’s no driver.
:werd:

Tik-Tok
04-20-2021, 10:06 AM
Probably fucking in the back seat. Probably for an onlyfans account.

dirtsniffer
04-20-2021, 10:51 AM
All car fires are scary.

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/man-seriously-injured-after-car-rolls-over-catches-fire-1.5385414

https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.5385417.1618325370!/httpImage/image.jpeg_gen/derivatives/landscape_1020/image.jpeg

From my original link "normally, when the fire department arrives they have the car fire under control in minutes, but this one went on for 4 hours." Even from your link, the guy was able to escape and survive and the fire was extinguished in minutes.

Maybe both people died on impact in the crash, but there is a solid chance they burnt to death.

J-D
04-20-2021, 11:13 AM
Disclaimer: I do own a Tesla. I'm not a huge fan of AutoPilot and basically never use it.

This crash basically just seems like people being idiots to me. Maybe we'll find out more in the future but hardly international news worthy IMO...

benyl
04-20-2021, 11:20 AM
From my original link "normally, when the fire department arrives they have the car fire under control in minutes, but this one went on for 4 hours." Even from your link, the guy was able to escape and survive and the fire was extinguished in minutes.

Maybe both people died on impact in the crash, but there is a solid chance they burnt to death.

Battery fires are nuts.

The car I linked is fully engulfed.

To your point, if you were inside unconscious, you might have burned to death. Battery powered or not. I wasn't trying to make a point of battery vs gas. The point is that any car get burn.

rc51
04-20-2021, 12:25 PM
Probably fucking in the back seat. Probably for an onlyfans account.

59 year old Doctor and a 69 year old engineer, I doubt it. They are saying 1 was in the passenger seat and the other was in the back seat.

Tik-Tok
04-20-2021, 12:37 PM
I obviously didn't read the actual article, was just making a joke.

It does go to show how even educated people can just be fucking retarded.

Rocket1k78
04-20-2021, 12:38 PM
Disclaimer: I do own a Tesla. I'm not a huge fan of AutoPilot and basically never use it.

This crash basically just seems like people being idiots to me. Maybe we'll find out more in the future but hardly international news worthy IMO...

Agreed but we all know this will/is going viral because its a death related to Tesla and most will just spew that. They will glance over the most important part where there was no fucking driver lol

Buster
04-20-2021, 12:55 PM
https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.5385417.1618325370!/httpImage/image.jpeg_gen/derivatives/landscape_1020/image.jpeg

This is now my favorite tesla.

rc51
04-20-2021, 12:58 PM
I obviously didn't read the actual article, was just making a joke.

It does go to show how even educated people can just be fucking retarded.

It is an interesting story, if true. What the heck were they doing before the crash 'if' no one was actually driving or in the drivers seat.

Musk has come out to say that car did not have FSD.

ThePenIsMightier
04-20-2021, 01:34 PM
I obviously didn't read the actual article, was just making a joke.

It does go to show how even educated people can just be fucking retarded.

No shit. I can't convince an engineer/customer to stop treating me like an enemy but a car can drive an engineer around the block and convince him to let it drive him on a highway, endangering his life and the lives of everyone else around.
Infuriating.

Xtrema
04-20-2021, 02:41 PM
59 year old Doctor and a 69 year old engineer, I doubt it. They are saying 1 was in the passenger seat and the other was in the back seat.

If there's a niche, someone will fill it.

revelations
04-20-2021, 03:06 PM
alcohol

lilmira
04-20-2021, 04:43 PM
Well, it takes no skill to act stupid.

Sky
04-20-2021, 06:06 PM
Very sad indeed. Musk said Autopilot was not engaged. I think Autopilot got disengaged when the curve came up and the vehicle could not handle it. Isn't that the case in many lane keeping assist vehicles? Any Tesla owners can chime in? If Autopilot was not engaged, how can no one be in the driver seat? Passenger let the vehicle set on cruise just fine until it couldn't negotiate the curve. So crazy these battery fires are so difficult to put out.

16hypen3sp
04-20-2021, 08:38 PM
^ I have tested my Genesis HDA on some pretty harsh corners and it can handle it pretty good. Always surprises me.

Were these guys doing the water bottle trick to bypass the autopilot disabling from no driver feedback? I know my Genesis will disable if it doesn't sense a tiny bit of feedback from the driver for a certain period of time. Strapping a water bottle to the side of the steering wheel will bypass it apparently tho. No, I have not tried it.

botox
04-21-2021, 10:27 AM
^ I have tested my Genesis HDA on some pretty harsh corners and it can handle it pretty good. Always surprises me.

Were these guys doing the water bottle trick to bypass the autopilot disabling from no driver feedback? I know my Genesis will disable if it doesn't sense a tiny bit of feedback from the driver for a certain period of time. Strapping a water bottle to the side of the steering wheel will bypass it apparently tho. No, I have not tried it.

Is steering wheel feedback the only failsafe? I have no idea about these auto piloting cars but isn't there any weight or other sensors in the chairs or even seat belt sensors to make sure some ones ass is in there or did these geniuses just bypass it. Or maybe the car manufacturers just didn't think anyone would be that stupid to try something like this.

J-D
04-21-2021, 10:44 AM
Is steering wheel feedback the only failsafe? I have no idea about these auto piloting cars but isn't there any weight or other sensors in the chairs or even seat belt sensors to make sure some ones ass is in there or did these geniuses just bypass it. Or maybe the car manufacturers just didn't think anyone would be that stupid to try something like this.

Have never tested with AutoPilot on but I've backed out of my driveway before without my seatbelt on and the curb put my weight off the sensor for a split second.. The Tesla kicked me out of drive into park right away.

Kloubek
04-21-2021, 01:37 PM
I heard there was a "Tesla crash", and quickly didn't really care. Fact is, Autopilot or not, Teslas are involved in a fraction of accidents compared to vehicles which are completely manually controlled.

Now hearing there wasn't even a driver, I care even less. Idiots will do idiotic things.

rvd
04-21-2021, 01:49 PM
From my original link "normally, when the fire department arrives they have the car fire under control in minutes, but this one went on for 4 hours."

Fakenews by the lamestream media. Fire took 3-4 mins to put out straight from the fire chiefs mouth.

Tik-Tok
04-21-2021, 03:18 PM
Fakenews by the lamestream media. Fire took 3-4 mins to put out straight from the fire chiefs mouth.

98771

dirtsniffer
04-21-2021, 03:36 PM
Fakenews by the lamestream media. Fire took 3-4 mins to put out straight from the fire chiefs mouth.

98733


How long did it take for the car to look like that? FD show up 3 hours and 57 minutes after the crash?

mr2mike
04-21-2021, 04:09 PM
Battery fires are another beast. Very different than a gasoline or petrol fire.
FD is going to need specific training as more Tesla's are on the road.

https://youtu.be/8n5Wf7TlGrU

killramos
04-21-2021, 04:11 PM
Battery fires are another beast. Very different than a gasoline or petrol fire.
FD is going to need specific training as more Tesla's are on the road.

https://youtu.be/8n5Wf7TlGrU

Hurr durr FAKENEWS

BerserkerCatSplat
04-21-2021, 04:26 PM
o lawd is that some LAMESTREAM MEDIA

ThePenIsMightier
04-21-2021, 07:21 PM
o lawd is that some LAMESTREAM MEDIA

Wake up, Sheeple!!¡

rvd
04-21-2021, 10:17 PM
Hurr durr, fuck you guys are muppets.

“With respect to the fire fight, unfortunately, those rumors grew way out of control. It did not take us four hours to put out the blaze. Our guys got there and put down the fire within two to three minutes, enough to see the vehicle had occupants. After that, it was simply cooling the car as the batteries continued to have a chain reaction due to damage.

“We could not tear it apart or move it around to get ‘final extinguishment’ because the fact that we had two bodies in there and it was then an investigation-slash-crime scene. We had to keep it cool, were on scene for four hours, but we were simply pouring a little bit of water on it. It was not because flames were coming out. It was a reaction in the battery pan. It was not an active fire,” Buck said.

SingleBarrel
05-18-2021, 05:23 AM
According to Musk there was an 'autopilot' capabaility on that particular car but it wasn't switched on.

:)