Am I crazy or is this the worst time ever to buy a vehicle?

[Shlade]

Has anybody else noticed this? I have never seen vehicle prices this inflated before. You're in a good position if you're selling, but my god you're right fucked if you're buying. Thanks to COVID and plant shut downs/chip shortages, dealers are left with dick all.

I absolutely regret selling my 19' Raptor. I had originally placed an order for a Bronco (not a reservation order) and was recently told that due to chip issues and just overall quality control shit with the Bronco, that I likely would not see this thing until next year. So I cancelled.

Now here I am trying to make either an incredibly foolish purchase by getting either a very fun summer car (C6 Z06, GT500, Boss 302... etc etc.)
OR buying something both fun and sensible for year round vehicle.

I debated an SRT8 jeep as its the best of both worlds... But I cant even fucking find one of those. Dealership stock is minimal... Used market is borderline crayon eating...

First world problems.

/RANT

[Team_Mclaren]

yup, Its worse in the states because of new car shortage. There are stories of people trading in their 2 year old cars and got more than their original purchase price. Most trucks are selling for over MSRP.

[Shlade]

yup, Its worse in the states because of new car shortage. There are stories of people trading in their 2 year old cars and got more than their original purchase price. Most trucks are selling for over MSRP.

My brother just sold his 18' F150 Special Edition XLT for 48k! He bought it a year and a half ago for 38. Dealers were actually fighting over it when he posted it... Its insane right now for the used truck market. If I held on I probably would of gotten more money for my Raptor right about now.

[Team_Mclaren]

Raptor is fucking crazy right now as well. I think I can sell mine for close to what I paid for new.

[Shlade]

Raptor is fucking crazy right now as well. I think I can sell mine for close to what I paid for new.

Without a doubt. And id be willing to bet an exporter jumps on that fast and ships it state side...

[Masked Bandit]

It's goddamn ridiculous right now. Anyone that is just straight up buying a newer car without a trade or private resale of your old guy is going to pay through the nose.

[Tik-Tok]

Are Mercedes exportable to the US?

Edit: Im guessing not, judging by the amount of used inventory on the local dealership websites.

[JohnnyHockey13]

Nissan Jukes are exempt from this so called crazy used car market, ask me how I know.

[eglove]

Buy an RS!

[C4S]

And with new and higher tax on luxury/expensive super cars ... no surprise

[ExtraSlow]

Shlade we've been discussing this here, and it's been all over the internet, for months. Where ya been bro?

[Shlade]

Shlade we've been discussing this here, and it's been all over the internet, for months. Where ya been bro?

The bitching in the f150 chat doesn't count hahaha

[Buster]

I'm not buying shit for a year.

[ExtraSlow]

The bitching in the f150 chat doesn't count hahaha

You take. That back.

[killramos]

I'm not buying shit for a year.

That’s what I said.

Then again I’ve never bought a car I planned on buying.

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

The market has been whack since early March. Trucks especially. I am shopping for a few “dream” cars right now and there’s either nothing or people are out of their mind on price.

[suntan]

My Fiesta is still for sale.

Sold my truck for $500 less than what I bought it for though.

[03ozwhip]

I sold my civic for 1500 more than I paid for it like 3 or 4 months ago. I'm seeing a ton of Lightnings in the US selling on average 18k USD, which is way more than I got mine for, but barely any are fir sale in Canada.

[killramos]

Maybe I should sell my M2 lol

[ExtraSlow]

Sell everything, ride a bike like Buster

[suntan]

Sell everything, ride a bike like Buster

That's what I'm trying to do lol.

[ExtraSlow]

Peavy mart has some sick bikes.

[littledan]

Bought a truck end of 2017 for 5600. Sold at beginning of 2021 for 7000.

[spikerS]

I am REALLY contemplating selling my truck. like I am SUPER close, but, also hesitant. With the market, I was thinking i can just pick up some beater to carry me over, but I dont know if i want the hassle of an unknown ride at this point, and I am not sure when pricing is going to come back in line.

[G-ZUS]

I am REALLY contemplating selling my truck. like I am SUPER close, but, also hesitant. With the market, I was thinking i can just pick up some beater to carry me over, but I dont know if i want the hassle of an unknown ride at this point, and I am not sure when pricing is going to come back in line.

Even beaters are going for big $$$

[JohnnyHockey13]

My Fiesta is still for sale.

Sold my truck for $500 less than what I bought it for though.

Fiesta ST??

[redline]

Nissan Jukes are exempt from this so called crazy used car market, ask me how I know.

So are Ford edges … epic waste of money

[ExtraSlow]

All this talk has had me cruising Kijiji looking at beaters, and there's a lot of cars I'd like under 10k, so whatever. Maybe I should sell my truck after I sell my trailer? Hilarious.

[Tik-Tok]

All this talk has had me cruising Kijiji looking at beaters, and there's a lot of cars I'd like under 10k, so whatever. Maybe I should sell my truck after I sell my trailer? Hilarious.

Id list my truck tomorrow if I didn't have the trailer.

[shakalaka]

Wow that's insane... was just thinking about it today and thought about getting rid of the ZR2 for a Raptor finally now that an investment opportunity I wanted came through, but sounds like that would be a stupid decision right now. I guess I will have to wait for the time being and see how things go in the coming months....

[ExtraSlow]

Selling now is smart. Buying now is dumb. If you can separate those two transactions by 8-16 months, you will come out ahead.

[Pauly Boy]

Nissan Jukes are exempt from this so called crazy used car market, ask me how I know.

Haha, yup and Acura sedans, lol.

I legit thought about putting my name on the list for a Type-S after we flipped the wife's Rav4 for $2300 "profit" but it seems my car is worth exactly what I owe, lol.

[SKR]

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As you can see I think the used truck market is quite fair.

[Shlade]

Jesus Christ 55k USD for that.... Then again you look online and ford escapes are selling for 46k new.... Not explorers... Escapes....

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

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As you can see I think the used truck market is quite fair.

Lol this isn’t even exportable.

[killramos]

Selling now is smart. Buying now is dumb. If you can separate those two transactions by 8-16 months, you might come out ahead.

FTFY

That being said, selling something is near universally a good idea, buying something is near universally a bad idea.

Just stop thinking of your possessions as assets and you will be happier.

[SKR]

Lol this isn’t even exportable.

Just because it's probably not emissions compliant, or some other reason?

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Just because it's probably not emissions compliant, or some other reason?

Mexican made and emissions too depending on which state it was going to.

[vengie]

I was bitching about this in another thread.

As someone who will need to buy a 1/2 ton within the next year it's terrible.

I might end up with a 1ton in the short term as prices on those are still relatively reasonable ($40-50k for a 2015/16 platinum with <150k km)

[Buster]

I was bitching about this in another thread.

As someone who will need to buy a 1/2 ton within the next year it's terrible.

I might end up with a 1ton in the short term as prices on those are still relatively reasonable ($40-50k for a 2015/16 platinum with <150k km)

this weird supply/demand dislocation will not last very long.

[Shlade]

this weird supply/demand dislocation will not last very long.

Considering there's literally thousands upon thousands of vehicles sitting at manufacturer lots right now just waiting for Chips... Once those come through things will start hopefully going back to normal.

If you look, usually new year vehicles come out end of third quarter every year. We're starting to just see 2021 production model vehicles coming out this year. The timelines are so incredibly screwed up.

[Tik-Tok]

Fucking Bill Gates hogging all those 5G chips for our vaccines!

I hope there's a mass surplus of new vehicles next year when my lease is up..

[Toms-SC]

I had originally placed an order for a Bronco (not a reservation order) and was recently told that due to chip issues and just overall quality control shit with the Bronco, that I likely would not see this thing until next year. So I cancelled.
/RANT

How far did Ford bump your order out? My Mach 1 build (not E) was bumped out by a week due to the chip shortage.

[suntan]

Fiesta ST??

Nope, just an SEL.

[Shlade]

How far did Ford bump your order out? My Mach 1 build (not E) was bumped out by a week due to the chip shortage.

The dealer told me I likely wouldn't see my build until the end of the year, if not Into next year pushing it from a 21' to a 22' build date. I cancelled all together.

I actually saw a Mach1 yesterday at Marlborough ford. What a beefy looking car. Only thing missing was the recaro package seats. At least it'll be more reliable than the GT350 engines.

[tirebob]

Hmmmm... So my 2017 F150 XLT Sport Supercab with 142k has gotta be worth at least 35K yeah? :rofl:

[ExtraSlow]

Hmmmm... So my 2017 F150 XLT Sport Supercab with 142k has gotta be worth at least 35K yeah? :rofl:

Or more!

[jutes]

The dealer told me I likely wouldn't see my build until the end of the year, if not Into next year pushing it from a 21' to a 22' build date. I cancelled all together.

I actually saw a Mach1 yesterday at Marlborough ford. What a beefy looking car. Only thing missing was the recaro package seats. At least it'll be more reliable than the GT350 engines.

Camaro SS 1LE is the car you are looking for. 2017+

Good set of winters and it’s totally winter drivable.

[Shlade]

Camaro SS 1LE is the car you are looking for. 2017+

Good set of winters and it’s totally winter drivable.

No ZL1 No care

[jutes]

No ZL1 No care

Even better.

[Darkane]

Camaro SS 1LE is the car you are looking for. 2017+

Good set of winters and it’s totally winter drivable.

Still can’t see out of the bloody thing lol. When I went to check them out for real, the interior killed it for me. Ded.

With the window down and arm on the sill, it felt like I was reaching up to the top cupboard - and I’m tall. A normal 5’10” person couldn’t even cruise with their arm on the sill.

Stupid little things like that killed the car.

[Buster]

Still can’t see out of the bloody thing lol. When I went to check them out for real, the interior killed it for me. Ded.

With the window down and arm on the sill, it felt like I was reaching up to the top cupboard - and I’m tall. A normal 5’10” person couldn’t even cruise with their arm on the sill.

Stupid little things like that killed the car.

People cruise around with their arm out the window?

[killramos]

People cruise around with their arm out the window?

The kind of people who buy new Camaro’s do

Actually. I think that applies to most generations of Camaro

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[dirtsniffer]

speaking generally...

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[killramos]

I assume pointing out mustang owners do something doesn’t constitute a defensive argument right? :rofl:

[2Legit2Quit]

Still can’t see out of the bloody thing lol. When I went to check them out for real, the interior killed it for me. Ded.

With the window down and arm on the sill, it felt like I was reaching up to the top cupboard - and I’m tall. A normal 5’10” person couldn’t even cruise with their arm on the sill.

Stupid little things like that killed the car.
That's why you buy the 2SS package and rely on the traffic sensors to compensate for the visibility :rofl:

[suntan]

Hmmmm... So my 2017 F150 XLT Sport Supercab with 142k has gotta be worth at least 35K yeah? :rofl:

Probably more.

[rx7boi]

Bummer. We were planning on buying a RAV4 in the next month or so.

The only thing I noticed is that used vehicles are selling for a negligible amount over new ones, but when it comes to dealership prices, what else is new?

[Ukyo8]

Has anybody else noticed this? I have never seen vehicle prices this inflated before. You're in a good position if you're selling, but my god you're right fucked if you're buying. Thanks to COVID and plant shut downs/chip shortages, dealers are left with dick all.

I absolutely regret selling my 19' Raptor. I had originally placed an order for a Bronco (not a reservation order) and was recently told that due to chip issues and just overall quality control shit with the Bronco, that I likely would not see this thing until next year. So I cancelled.

Now here I am trying to make either an incredibly foolish purchase by getting either a very fun summer car (C6 Z06, GT500, Boss 302... etc etc.)
OR buying something both fun and sensible for year round vehicle.

I debated an SRT8 jeep as its the best of both worlds... But I cant even fucking find one of those. Dealership stock is minimal... Used market is borderline crayon eating...

First world problems.

/RANT

I just had a client of mine trade in his 2020 Sierra 1500 AT4 with 45,000 kms (realtor, drives a lot) for a brand new fully loaded 2021 AT4 and he paid $1,100 out of pocket for the whole transaction.

[Darkane]

People cruise around with their arm out the window?

Oh yeah. And you do too, you Gen X’er!!

Nothing is hotter than cruising around in an Iroc with the T-tops off.

[dirtsniffer]

Maybe a trans am?

[tcon]

So manufacturers aren't increasing prices, it's just lack of stock? I'd like to sell my truck or trade it in for a new model with a nice fresh warranty, looks like I can get really close to what I paid, just a matter of timing it right

[ExtraSlow]

Check availibility of the new vehicle before you get rid of the old one, or you'll be walking . . .

[Pauly Boy]

Still can’t see out of the bloody thing lol. When I went to check them out for real, the interior killed it for me. Ded.

With the window down and arm on the sill, it felt like I was reaching up to the top cupboard - and I’m tall. A normal 5’10” person couldn’t even cruise with their arm on the sill.

Stupid little things like that killed the car.

So much this. The entire bloody thing is a blind spot, lol.

[Toms-SC]

The dealer told me I likely wouldn't see my build until the end of the year, if not Into next year pushing it from a 21' to a 22' build date. I cancelled all together.

I actually saw a Mach1 yesterday at Marlborough ford. What a beefy looking car. Only thing missing was the recaro package seats. At least it'll be more reliable than the GT350 engines.

Welp, the factory order was just bumped out by an additional two weeks.

Alberta has a handfull of Mach 1s on-lot. It could be a summer fling for ya?

[M.alex]

The dealer told me I likely wouldn't see my build until the end of the year, if not Into next year pushing it from a 21' to a 22' build date. I cancelled all together.

I actually saw a Mach1 yesterday at Marlborough ford. What a beefy looking car. Only thing missing was the recaro package seats. At least it'll be more reliable than the GT350 engines.

You want to buy my 04 cobra ... it's only got 300k kms on it? $60k.

[shakalaka]

Is this crazy market crazy for everything or just pickups specifically? I put my ZR2 on Kijiji for fun to see if someone wanted to do a lease takeover and people are offering to buy it outright for prices over my owing amount on the ZR2 right now. This is quite tempting...though I just don't know what I would replace it with.

[killramos]

Debt is almost free right now and the government has been throwing cash money at people.

People are hoarding everything.

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Is this crazy market crazy for everything or just pickups specifically? I put my ZR2 on Kijiji for fun to see if someone wanted to do a lease takeover and people are offering to buy it outright for prices over my owing amount on the ZR2 right now. This is quite tempting...though I just don't know what I would replace it with.

Oh that was you.

[shakalaka]

^Were you one of the messages? I've literally gotten 9 responses since last night, including offers of outright purchase for more than what I owe. It's insane.

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

^Were you one of the messages? I've literally gotten 9 responses since last night, including offers of outright purchase for more than what I owe. It's insane.

No but I want to buy a ZR2 for myself, I saw your ad go up.

[ExtraSlow]

How are you so shocked to not be upside down?

[killramos]

How are you so shocked to not be upside down?

I thought he always makes money flipping cars?

[shakalaka]

.

- - - Updated - - -


How are you so shocked to not be upside down?


I thought he always makes money flipping cars?


Why don't you guys just rep each other and not worry about what my moolah?

I don't think it should be too surprising to think that someone might find it odd that they can make money on a vehicle after keeping it for 8 months and driving 13K km's.

[killramos]

Don’t worry. None of us find it odd.

[suntan]

Sold my Fiesta. That was way faster than what I was expecting.

[Shlade]

Well I managed to find something I've been looking for. The dealership didn't want to sell it to me originally... Dealer manager wanted it as his demo model and they aren't scheduled to get anymore until June sometime. After a little bit of patience they did the right thing.

Time to give it the full off-road treatment.

99427

[mrsingh]

Well I managed to find something I've been looking for. The dealership didn't want to sell it to me originally... Dealer manager wanted it as his demo model and they aren't scheduled to get anymore until June sometime. After a little bit of patience they did the right thing.

Time to give it the full off-road treatment.

99427

Really love these 4Runner's, great choice!

[shakalaka]

Well I managed to find something I've been looking for. The dealership didn't want to sell it to me originally... Dealer manager wanted it as his demo model and they aren't scheduled to get anymore until June sometime. After a little bit of patience they did the right thing.

Time to give it the full off-road treatment.

99427

Awesome! I love 4Runners and I see that you couldn't wait for the Bronco either. lol.

[Team_Mclaren]

jesus, to go from a Raptor to a 4runner? whyyyyy

[R-Audi]

Well I managed to find something I've been looking for. The dealership didn't want to sell it to me originally... Dealer manager wanted it as his demo model and they aren't scheduled to get anymore until June sometime. After a little bit of patience they did the right thing.

Time to give it the full off-road treatment.

99427

Nice!

Unless you plan on plugging it in, you can unscrew that block heater plug receptacle from the back and pull it through so you cant see it.

[Shlade]

jesus, to go from a Raptor to a 4runner? whyyyyy

Believe it or not, the 4runner feels better than the raptor. The raptor had great suspension but I plan on ensuring the 4runner does shortly here too. SUV is far more practical for me.

[2Legit2Quit]

Anyone want to buy my Camaro? been pondering about selling or trading it in, haven't even taken it out of storage and prob won't until June some time....slight regret buying it last year lol

[s dime]

Anyone want to buy my Camaro? been pondering about selling or trading it in, haven't even taken it out of storage and prob won't until June some time....slight regret buying it last year lol

Details please

[2Legit2Quit]

Details please
2019 2SS only has 3300 KMs on it. NPP exhaust, sunroof, black interior, all the 2SS package goodies.
Added the GM cold air intake which is supported by warranty, front splitter, tinted the windows, gyeon ceramic coating all around, PPF on the front end/full hood cover.
Extended warranty as well.

Basically brand new and barely driven. I'm full work from home pre-covid times and with my summer camping plans I'm at the point of wondering when I'll even drive this thing this summer, I pretty much have to make excuses to drive as is.

Pic from last year, it's presently in my garage still under the car cover.

Have been mulling putting it up for sale or trading it in for something larger than our CRV and get rid of the Honda.

[rage2]

jesus, to go from a Raptor to a 4runner? whyyyyy
So he doesn’t have to fold in his mirror.

[killramos]

Considering where the market is I don’t see the harm I’m throwing a feeler to the wind to see what kind of numbers you get.

[ExtraSlow]

Is right now a good time to sell a Wrangler? Asking for a friend.

[shakalaka]

:rofl:

That Camaro looks sick btw, I suggest throwing up as strange things are happening in the market right now so you never know. I need more garage space, triple isn't cutting it anymore.

[jutes]

:rofl:

That Camaro looks sick btw, I suggest throwing up as strange things are happening in the market right now so you never know. I need more garage space, triple isn't cutting it anymore.

I’m considering throwing my 17 1LE on Kijiji but not at $50k+ crazy prices. Love the car but not driving it enough.

[Tik-Tok]

Sold my Fiesta. That was way faster than what I was expecting.

Another case supporting my statement of a 'hot' market.

[Buster]

Another case supporting my statement of a 'hot' market.

Repped

[adam c]

Another case supporting my statement of a 'hot' market.

Now I'm going to read all these posts with Bob's voice, it's also why I can't watch Archer

[Kobe]

Wow I had no idea about the car market, interesting..

Dad has a 2012 Escalade EXT he was planning on selling in the near future, might tell him to just list it now for a higher amount and see if anyone takes it since it's looks super clean.

[ThePenIsMightier]

Where did the thread go that mentioned an auction where prices were higher than normal?

[arcticcat522]

Where did the thread go that mentioned an auction where prices were higher than normal?

It was one of JohnnyHockey13 threads. Adesa auction was the place. I didn't look to see if I can find it.

[black300]

I sold m 17 F150 Lariat as well, got paid top dollar. I am going to wait it out until prices line up and purchase something. I won't be needing a truck anytime soon, might go 1 Ton Diesel for the sake of towing. I did order a Bronco was on reservation, a lot of options advertised are not available soon according to the manager. If it looks nice I will keep it, if not then I will let someone else purchase it. Last timeline I got was around November-December.

For the summer I picked up a C6 Z06 :love:

[Buster]

Things might be turning a bit.

My autotrader searches did this:

- two years of inventory sitting
- January 2021 - autotrader searches emptied and everything sold
- April 2021 - dealers start advertising (consignment?) vehicles and inventory plumps
- Mid-May 2021 - consistent emails from autotrader advertising price drops.

Demand shock took out inventory, and we're going to see oscillations.

[Rocket1k78]

Another case supporting my statement of a 'hot' market.

My brothers cousins sisters bf aunt also sold her car in a day so theres more proof to support your case

[killramos]

My brothers cousins sisters bf aunt also sold her car in a day so theres more proof to support your case

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