"Higher quality" kitchen faucet?

[ExtraSlow]

My struggles with the seeming lack of correlation between price and quality had been well documented on this forum.
Now I'm looking at a new kitchen faucet, and wondering if there's any appreciable benefit to spending more than $200 on one from Moen or Delta. Don't want any touch free or "fancy" features, just want something well built, reliable, functional.

[G-ZUS]

My struggles with the seeming lack of correlation between price and quality had been well documented on this forum.
Now I'm looking at a new kitchen faucet, and wondering if there's any appreciable benefit to spending more than $200 on one from Moen or Delta. Don't want any touch free or "fancy" features, just want something well built, reliable, functional.

You can usually find moen or delta on clearance at lowes rona etc

[killramos]

Apparently Moen has a higher end lineup that is quite good quality.

I don’t have anything more to add. But that came from discussions I had with people who just did some high end Reno’s, I was surprised to see the Moen boxes and that is what they told me.

[dirtsniffer]

I've had issues with moen and the service has been good

[ExtraSlow]

Apparently Moen has a higher end lineup that is quite good quality.

I don’t have anything more to add. But that came from discussions I had with people who just did some high end Reno’s, I was surprised to see the Moen boxes and that is what they told me.

How do you tell them apart? Probably have to buy at Plumbateria not home depot then?

[killramos]

I would guess price tag is a good start?

But I agree I don’t really understand it.

They were perhaps full of shit

[ThePenIsMightier]

Moen has a great warranty but so do Canadian Tire car batteries, and the similarity is that your very likely going to need that warranty. That's irritating.
I find Delta to be a higher quality kitchen faucet than Moen.

[suntan]

You could check this.

http://starcraftcustombuilders.com/sources.faucets2.htm

[Darkane]

Well, this depends.

Is quality the build, the finish, and the gap between the fittings? Or is it the amount it breaks down?

[msommers]

You have to typically go to plumbing stores to get nicer equipment and talk to people who know their shit. The lines they sell at HD et al. from Delta or Moen, are low to mid tier. Like anything, more metal less plastic is key

[benyl]

The more expensive faucets have a different flow and splash less. Going from super cheap Moen in the temp house to the new faucets is a noticeable difference. Is it good value? probably not.

We have a pair of Brizo touch faucets on the island
https://www.brizofaucet.ca/kitchen/product/64054LF-SS
https://media.brizo.com/elvis/OnWhite/md/64054LF-SS-B1.png

and then a Hansgrohe Aqano Select in the pantry.

https://www.hansgrohe.ca/en/articledetail-aquno-select-higharc-kitchen-faucet-3-spray-pull-down-1-75-gpm-73837001
https://assets.hansgrohe.com/mam/celum/celum_assets/154__hpr02326_tif.png?format=HBW24

[ThePenIsMightier]

^That's a great way of saying it wrt VALUE.
Like cars, it's NOT linear! Want 2x better? Pay 8x more...

[benyl]

Island:

106547


Pantry.
106548

With the laminar flow veggie washing rinse going. It truly doesn’t splash. I don’t know if there is more air in the water or what the deal is.

106549

[suntan]

Brizo is the high end Delta brand.

[ExtraSlow]

How much is that brizio faucet, for example?

[benyl]

Yes, all the internal hardware is Delta. No different than a Lexus or Audi.

The Brizo are Stainless which adds 40% to the base cost, then add touch option.

Those faucets were $1200 each. I see online , they are pushing $1400 now.

If you get it in Chrome without touch, they are $500ish which gets the same flow. Touch is worth the upcharge. The stainless is pure cosmetics and not worth it.

[bjstare]

I think you might want to look at grohe as well (different than hansgrohe I believe). It’s what we went with. Solid quality, happy medium on the value/price spectrum.

Delta is garbage, previous owners put delta stuff in the master bath and it’s all failing.

[killramos]

+1 that the only fixture I have ever had fail was a delta

[90_Shelby]

We used these guys for all of our faucets, fixtures and toilets, they’re out of BC.

https://www.sustainablesolutions.com/products/kitchen-faucets?brand=49

[suntan]

I think you might want to look at grohe as well (different than hansgrohe I believe). It’s what we went with. Solid quality, happy medium on the value/price spectrum.

Delta is garbage, previous owners put delta stuff in the master bath and it’s all failing.

Unfortunately Grohe went full Mexico/China in the last couple of years.

[bjstare]

Unfortunately Grohe went full Mexico/China in the last couple of years.

Good to know.

[benyl]

Unfortunately Grohe went full Mexico/China in the last couple of years.

Yeah, the builder and the plumber both talked us out of Grohe due to the issues they have been having with them for the last few years.

[R-Audi]

Also worth checking out the warranty... we moved into an older house and Grohe honored the warranty for the shower temperature and flow cartridges.(For two showers) Sent them a few emails and had all the parts sent out for free a few weeks later.

[suntan]

Yeah it's really too bad about Grohe. We used it for our bathroom reno and everything was made in Germany IIRC.

[Inzane]

Well, this depends.

Is quality the build, the finish, and the gap between the fittings? Or is it the amount it breaks down?

Haha… this is exactly the point I was going for in the consumer reports thread.

[ThePenIsMightier]

Well, this depends.

Is quality the build, the finish, and the gap between the fittings? Or is it the amount it breaks down?

Under appreciated post!
Will Rep later

[G-ZUS]

Delta can suck it, been having problems with my kitchen faucet. They used every excuse in the book to deny warranty then finally escalated my complaint and the part i need is "backordered". Been 6 months now.

[JRSC00LUDE]

I don't know. I had a high end (cost-wise) Blanco kitchen faucet. After 10 years something in the pullout spray head stopped working right, called their customer service and they send a new one that week. So I have expensive Kohler and Blanco taps everywhere now.

[suntan]

In terms of quality Kohler fixtures are overrated. But they make really good toilets, even the cheapies at HD are very good.

[JRSC00LUDE]

In terms of quality Kohler fixtures are overrated. But they make really good toilets, even the cheapies at HD are very good.

I don't know. Other than a rare cartridge failure, do they ever break?

[suntan]

I don't know. Other than a rare cartridge failure, do they ever break?

No they're pretty reliable. But it terms of installation, finish and $/value, there's better.

They make some insanely expensive stuff if you go to the fancy bath places.

[Darkane]

Under appreciated post!
Will Rep later

#hatbrimtip

[sabad66]

Good timing for this thread as mine has sprung an annoying leak in the hose and I don’t have receipts or model number to bother with moen warranty.

Looking at these two:
106592
106593

How useful is the waving feature? Is it one of those things that you’ll never go back to not having after using it? Also looks like it takes 6 AA batteries… any idea how long those last ones average? I don’t want to be under my sink frequently… I can live with 2-3 times a year but any more than that I know I’ll be annoyed

[benyl]

It's like having a proximity key for your car where you just keep the key in your pocket. Can you imaging having to actually put a key in the door and turning it to unlock the car to get in?

[killramos]

Sounds really useful for people who never change the temperature of the water they want out of a faucet lol

[ThePenIsMightier]

sabad66 the batteries last >1 year.

[schurchill39]

How useful is the waving feature? Is it one of those things that you’ll never go back to not having after using it?

I just installed one of the upper end Moens with it and I actually use it WAY more than I thought I would. Its pretty useful when you're washing your hands as you're preparing food or they are covered in oil or grease and you don't want to touch anything. Now if I could just convince my wife that there is a temperature you can leave the faucet at between artic sea and lava it would be more useful.

[ThePenIsMightier]

There is a Kohler touchless unit on sale this month at Costco for only $200
That seems like a smokin deal. I'm pretty sure my Moen was like $450!

106653

[sabad66]

That is a pretty sweet deal. I was sold on that one after you confirmed the batteries last over a year, so good thing I procrastinated and didn’t buy it last sunday.

[Darkane]

Under appreciated post!
Will Rep later

Cheers

[jacky4566]

Laminar flow is pretty dope. My parents have one and it's nice to have. Quieter and fills water cups faster.

[bjstare]

Laminar flow is pretty dope. My parents have one and it's nice to have. Quieter and fills water cups faster.

This was one of our requirements. I wouldn't buy a faucet that didn't have this.

[Xtrema]

I've had issues with moen and the service has been good

This

[suntan]

Laminar flow is pretty dope. My parents have one and it's nice to have. Quieter and fills water cups faster.

Just LOL at drinking water from a tap.

[ThePenIsMightier]

That is a pretty sweet deal. I was sold on that one after you confirmed the batteries last over a year, so good thing I procrastinated and didn’t buy it last sunday.

LoL I learned how to search better and found your post from almost a year ago!
I just replaced my batteries (six AA) and I had written the date on them like was if I was smart. I apparently got almost 3 years out of them!

[sabad66]

LoL I learned how to search better and found your post from almost a year ago!
I just replaced my batteries (six AA) and I had written the date on them like was if I was smart. I apparently got almost 3 years out of them!

Just changed mine today for the first time since I installed mine around June 2022. So approx 1.5 years for me. They were the standard Duracells that came in the box. What batteries were you running to get 3 years out of it??

[ThePenIsMightier]

Just changed mine today for the first time since I installed mine around June 2022. So approx 1.5 years for me. They were the standard Duracells that came in the box. What batteries were you running to get 3 years out of it??

I swore a religious thing that I want to guess is called an Al Faatwa against Duracell several years ago because their fucking garbage leaks and destroys vital, expensive things, far far far too often. Now I'm an Energizer man. Home Depot sells 36 of these AA whores for a cool 20-spot, all day, urrvry day!

Overall, I'm a firm believer that it's been proven that the actual hours of usage are DIRECTLY proportional with the cost, so that's a wash whether one chooses an off brand like HDX or Kirkland vs a major brand.
But yes, that's my experience with Energizer in my house. I will guarantee our usages are different but keeping the eyes on the prize, replacing them every 3 months is obviously not in the cards and that's the major win.