Living in the industrial area - Discuss

[ExtraSlow]

I know housing affordability is an issue, so this seems like a creative solution. People are parking motorhomes and trailers in industrial areas and living in them. I see these guys all over town, near my work, and this pic is from near my favourite fuel retailer. This individual has solar power, wind turbine, and appears also to have a wood stove. The wood stove is really common as it allows them to burn pallets and other garbage to generate heat in winter. Seems like a large fire hazard, but what do I know?

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Not as amazing as the old "van down by a river" maybe.
Is this an issue, does it bother you, and generally, discuss:

[max_boost]

dang these people are good. I could never lol

[Team_Mclaren]

As long as it's not parked where I live or frequent.

[ZenOps]

Vanlife finally catching on in Canada. Two 400 watt panels go a long way.

[ercchry]

Think it’s becoming a major issue in some US cities.

Was hoping this thread was more of the “rich tech mogul converts warehouse into secret batcave” than poors in poor mobiles. Guess it’s still better than squatting in uhauls. Rented one from Blackfoot location once and you could still smell the hobo and lucky lager

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

There used to be more of them along that stretch but that guy has been there the longest.

[TomcoPDR]

As long as it's not parked where I live.

Where would they park with your fleet there?



Think it’s becoming a major issue in some US cities.

Was hoping this thread was more of the “rich tech mogul converts warehouse into secret batcave” than poors in poor mobiles.

I thought this as well by the misleading title

[JfuckinC]

that one has been living there for years

[Yolobimmer]

Why complicate things.

I have 2 people in my neighborhood that rent a part of their big yard to motorhomes. They just plug into an extension cord.

[ZenOps]

I want pics from that guy who bought the abandoned bunker on Nose Hill. Although they nullified the sale?

[nismodrifter]

Out here it is the norm. Drive through Burnaby (or any industrial area really) and you will see an endless line of motorhomes and RV's. Many have set up camp permanently. Its nuts.

Hell, even take a drive through Point Grey, keep an eye out, and you will quickly spot cars that don't belong. Some have the front windshield covered up as it gets dark. You've got campers amongst Canadas richest people. Balling views in that neighborhood. Safety too.

[suntan]

It's sustainable housing!

[2Legit2Quit]

Have seen a few of these parked off Barlow and Centre, might even be where the pic was taken. Seems like these dudes have some good permanent setups. Wood stoves in a motorhome #lavish

[Darell_n]

At the start of the lockdown, there was a family of 5 living in the parking lot of the T&T in Deerfoot Meadows for close to 8 months. 3 little kids with the oldest being maybe 7, ripping their bikes daily in an active construction site. Good times and I’m sure must have been some sort of tragic story behind it.

[schurchill39]

There used to be more of them along that stretch but that guy has been there the longest.


that one has been living there for years

So is this legal then if its properly registered? Or is it one of those "sure its illegal but its more hassle to move them than it is to leave them" type deals?

[Tik-Tok]

They're just living the Canadream

[JfuckinC]

So is this legal then if its properly registered? Or is it one of those "sure its illegal but its more hassle to move them than it is to leave them" type deals?

i dunno man, i rent my moms house so i have somewhere to live... :angel:

[zipdoa]

The lucky and piss crowd is suboptimal.

You want a little commune of these, maybe somewhere near aspen:

https://www.winnebago.com/Admin/Public/GetImage.ashx?Width=1600&Crop=5&Format=WebP&DoNotUpscale=True&FillCanvas=False&Image=/Files/Images/Winnebago/Products/2020/Boldt/BT-Lifestyle%2019-20.jpg&altFmImage_path=/Files/Images/placeholder.gif

[killramos]

That picture looks like Aspen.

[Buster]

The answer to the housing affordability crisis is greatly loosening zoning restrictions. But this is a bit much.

Although, if people are going to go all NIMBY about industrial areas, then that's some serious karen shit.

[killramos]

I’m not sure most Karen’s would know what an industrial area is

[SJW]

I’m not sure most Karen’s would know what an industrial area is

If there was something to bitch and whine about the Karen's would find it.

[ExtraSlow]

In Calgary this is illegal for several reasons. Such as:

Traffic Bylaw 26M96:
17.1: Can't park an RV anywhere except immediately adjacent to your residence
17.2: Can't park an RV longer than 36h anywhere.

Parking bylaw 41M2002
8.2.a: you can't park vehicles for more than 72h. (this is frequently done in residential areas, but remains illegal regardless)

I'm sure there is a bylaw about sleeping in your vehicle but I can't find it.

[88CRX]

The answer to the housing affordability crisis is greatly loosening zoning restrictions.

But what about parking and traffic and crime and think of the children!

Calgary's zoning and development approval process is a total cluster fuck of fuckery.

[OTown]

LMGTFY

https://www.calgary.ca/csps/abs/bylaws-by-topic/recreational-vehicles.html

[killramos]

I personally look forward to building a 15 story tower on my lot

[Buster]

Honestly, this still seems better than Airdrie.

[Tik-Tok]

If there was something to bitch and whine about the Karen's would find it.

Karen's would buy the dirt cheap housing property in an industrial area, and then fight tooth and nail to have the industries shut down.

[killramos]

Wait. Are Karen’s and Liberals the same thing?

[Tik-Tok]

Wait. Are Karen’s and Liberals the same thing?

The people you don't like are always on the opposing team.

[ThePenIsMightier]

That picture looks like Aspen.

Incorrect. That chick has neither bolt-ons nor fish lips.

[TomcoPDR]

Incorrect. That chick has neither bolt-ons nor fish lips.

And buddy isn’t wearing a Top Flite visor

[ThePenIsMightier]

So is this legal then if its properly registered? Or is it one of those "sure its illegal but its more hassle to move them than it is to leave them" type deals?

They're just one honk away from the wrath of the eMeRgEnCiEs AcT! Used for the second* time evarr!

*third

[98brg2d]

Down in my neck of the woods (Midnapore business area, not the community per se) one is living in a pick-up truck that has been slightly camperized (home-made, OSB etc.) That's better than the pallet walls that the other people construct on the adjacent properties (one is a disused fire hall, one is an active dance studio and car wash). They even had a BBQ going in a garbage can one day, on the fire hall property. City cleared them out the next day and now they are on the dance studio property on the opposite side of my building. I would rather the homeless be in RVs than the way they are. Considering where we are in the city, there is a surprising amount of homeless people around.

[zechs]

I mean, having lived in condo style apartments most of my adult life and then moving to an acreage only to move back to a condo I can see how this would be appealing.

$200k condo vs $200k 45' pusher or a massive travel trailer and diesel pickup.

The loophole to get around the parking issue is to park at walmart. As far as I know, they condone overnight parking.

[FraserB]

Impressive use of the security camera for a backup camera

[JfuckinC]

Impressive use of the security camera for a backup camera

i feel like its also a legit security camera along with security light monitoring his gear in the back haha

[suntan]

I mean, having lived in condo style apartments most of my adult life and then moving to an acreage only to move back to a condo I can see how this would be appealing.

$200k condo vs $200k 45' pusher or a massive travel trailer and diesel pickup.

The loophole to get around the parking issue is to park at walmart. As far as I know, they condone overnight parking.

Walmart no longer allows it, but I've never seen it enforced.

[Misterman]

Considering I can still go an hour north of Edmonton and get 80 acres with a house on it for 300k, I'm a far way off of living in a motorhome parked in a back alley. Worst case scenario, could always go get a shanty in Bruderheim for like 175k. Still have full size grocery stores just 10 min down the road.

[ZenOps]

Its the new generation. And its not really fair to blame GenX either, if *I* was head of NASA I'd hire you all and then just declare bankruptcy.

As is, many in GenX have no power to hire anyone other than a stripper for a birthday party.

The transition to 15 watts per mile may hit a lot of resistance though. Especially now that Hoover dam no longer produces power, but will consume power to keep the water flowing to the cities and farmer fields. Vanlife may be the correct life choice at this particular point in time, get a big battery for sure though.

[Shlade]

Honestly, if i could afford something boujee like an Earth Roamer or similar, id live in that full time lol.
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[ExtraSlow]

For one person you can do 90% of that for 25% of the money.

[killramos]

I would bet a lot less than 25% of the money.

It’s miraculous to me what people will spend to live like they are in the trailer park boys.

[ThePenIsMightier]

I would bet a lot less than 25% of the money.

It’s miraculous to me what people will spend to live like they are in the trailer park boys.

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[Pauly Boy]

I looked up welfare payouts in AB & it's ~10k/year. $21.5k if you're on the AISH gravy train

Guy living like a king there either way on Buster's money.

[sexualbanana]

There's a whole subculture of people who customize vans and trucks to be habitable year-round. Many of them go out of their way to ensure that it doesn't look like people are living in it. Some of the builds look pretty cool, some are just ridiculous.

https://youtu.be/ZZzqBh9LOTs
https://youtu.be/EMOAGmUyjts

[ZenOps]

Have a good friend setup (on GIS) setup a Telus $9.95 account and push it out over an amplified wireless antenna. Core of internet solved. Used solar panels, a new Lifepo4 battery, one base Ipad and one Steam Deck. HDTV that runs on 12 volt with bowtie antenna.

I would think it would be doable at least entertainment wise.

[TomcoPDR]

Did he do it right. Not quite industrial, but at least he can go into the condos to use the gym and poo

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[ExtraSlow]

This beauty is down near my work. Note the TWO security cameras on the side and back. Not sure why you'd need that, unless it's to keep the crackheads out. Is that it?
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[Pauly Boy]

I'm seen enough Breaking Bad to know that that's a rolling meth lab. Security cameras are there to keep the crackheads from stealing the methylamine barrels.

[suntan]

I'm seen enough Breaking Bad to know that that's a rolling meth lab. Security cameras are there to keep the crackheads from stealing the methylamine barrels.

Beyond group robbery? How many barrels can we fit in Buster's Ridgeline?

[AndyL]

Police will occasionally go throw 72 hour notices on them - then they move 10', start again, but if they're keeping it relatively clean and not getting complaints, and it's insured/registered - they typically let them be.

Income support is something like 745$ for a single person. And Alberta de-indexed that from inflation...Not exactly something you can even pay rent on - they 'allow' 330$ for housing. That wasn't sufficient in my adult life - I've never had rent lower than 450$ in the last 27 years. So - the real question here is how do we expect those who need welfare to survive - on 1/3 of a realistic rent?

[bjstare]

I don't expect them to survive on welfare, I expect them to get a job.

[zechs]

Yep, minimum wage is now $15/h. $2400 gross per month working 160 hours. Fuck right off if you can't hold down a job at mcdicks and afford rent, food, and a shitbox.

I don't think this sort of thing (rv living) is for actual poor people. This sort of thing is for people who theoretically should be able to buy single family home property and hold decent-ish jobs but they have been priced out of real estate. Poor people can't afford the gas, maintenance, or running costs.

[ZenOps]

UBI could be a thing.

[Buster]

Beyond group robbery? How many barrels can we fit in Buster's Ridgeline?

dont pull me into your nefarious schemes

[ZenOps]

If not parked directly in a Walmart lot, I'd think an electric scooter would be doable for dips to the stores. If you have to move most RVs even once a week it starts to get expensive and annoying.

But then again, you only have half a year of scooter weather.

[mr2mike]

Have a good friend setup (on GIS) setup a Telus $9.95 account and push it out over an amplified wireless antenna. Core of internet solved. Used solar panels, a new Lifepo4 battery, one base Ipad and one Steam Deck. HDTV that runs on 12 volt with bowtie antenna.

I would think it would be doable at least entertainment wise.

A hub for watching The Hub. Niiicce!