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msommers
08-31-2022, 09:27 AM
We just moved to a new house and as I was replacing some of the receptacles and switches, I was using my multimeter to ensure the power was off at the location. The problem is when the power was back on, the voltages were really high, like 135-150V! I've since ordered a higher quality multimeter before ripping it into Enmax. I also have a fairly simple power meter (example: https://www.amazon.ca/Kuman-Electricity-Monitor-Overload-Protection/dp/B07DPJ3RGB/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=2VVMJ4R7PW2Y&keywords=power+meter+plug&qid=1661959490&sprefix=power+meter+plug%2Caps%2C121&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUE2VTJUSzBFSjFWNlgmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA0MTgwMTQxTkdYWjlMSUlVVUlQJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA5MzEwMTkzNUJVUlJKTVJNT0NIJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==) and it shows real-time voltages, and now that device is showing low, like 110-119V!

I thought I could easily find a device that measures and records AC voltage accurately and export the data, but finding a device like this that isn't lab-grade $$$ is oddly difficult.

Does such a device exist without breaking the bank?

ExtraSlow
08-31-2022, 09:56 AM
Don't know, following.

The_Penguin
08-31-2022, 10:02 AM
A cheap way to do it is to use a smart UPS. My old APC does logging with the Powerchute software.
108522

Darell_n
08-31-2022, 12:16 PM
Buy a cheap RMS multimeter off Amazon and repeat your tests and for the love of God please record the conversation with Enmax when you give them hell. Haha

littledan
08-31-2022, 12:55 PM
It sounds like you have a broken neutral somewhere. You are probably reading high on that cct but low on the other leg. I would get an electrician in asap a broken neutral could kill your devices or burn your house down.

Darell_n
08-31-2022, 03:15 PM
It sounds like you have a broken neutral somewhere. You are probably reading high on that cct but low on the other leg. I would get an electrician in asap a broken neutral could kill your devices or burn your house down.

He doesn’t have a test meter to actually measure rms voltages. He’s basically guessing.

littledan
08-31-2022, 03:31 PM
Hang on back up, replacing switches and receptacles but no proper multimeter!?!....

First call should be to insurance to make sure you are covered (both home and life lol rip u ded)

msommers
08-31-2022, 03:46 PM
This is the multimeter I have, it's not a Fluke but for most of the home use it's been fine up until I started to question the values recently: https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Multimeters-digital-multimeter-function/dp/B0002GU142

Additionally, I have Klein receptacle tester and nothing has showed up as a 'broken neutral', both I and the home inspectors have tested tons of plugs throughout the house.

Darell_n
08-31-2022, 04:18 PM
This is the multimeter I have, it's not a Fluke but for most of the home use it's been fine up until I started to question the values recently: https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Multimeters-digital-multimeter-function/dp/B0002GU142

Additionally, I have Klein receptacle tester and nothing has showed up as a 'broken neutral', both I and the home inspectors have tested tons of plugs throughout the house.

Ok, the last Amazon link you provided was for a plug in power monitor. It seemed like in your post that was all you had for testing, but I would still trust all your circuits are 120v-ish before believing what that meter was saying.

ExtraSlow
08-31-2022, 04:20 PM
When I replace a receptacle I don't test the voltage at all. #neandertal

msommers
08-31-2022, 05:14 PM
I don't have a no-contact tester so I use it to check I've shut the power off properly. New house, terrible panel labelling. A job for later for sure because it drives me bonkers.

e31
08-31-2022, 09:48 PM
So we have a great (and timely) answer by Oswald Cobblepot, and an OP who is smart enough to be a danger to himself; This is my kind of thread, Subscribed!

Using a dedicated plug is a great way to avoid potential danger, but if you have to go probing line voltages use the "one hand" rule, meaning you don't risk creating a path thru the vital parts of your meat husk.

msommers
08-31-2022, 10:20 PM
Tis true, a smart UPS would be great and at least have more than one purpose, but I was hoping to not spend several hundred dollars for what generally seems like a really trivial task of logging voltage. Fluke makes a device for exactly what I'm wanting, just a couple thousand bucks later!

Appreciate the safety reminder though! I've worked as an electrician for a few years after high school before going to Uni so I feel pretty comfortable around household electricity. Tinkering with anything coming from the main line is a different story and actually completely in Enmax's wheelhouse, and right of way.

I spoke with a Master electrician this evening, agreed something didn't seem right and his suggestion was to call Enmax first to have them check the voltage coming from the line, something could be up with the taps on the transformer on the pole feeding the 5-6 houses. Once they confirm everything looks good on their end, I may bring him over to do a comprehensive electrical inspection. Good news is that bringing the Enmax guys out costs me nothing!

legendboy
09-01-2022, 08:13 PM
It sounds like you have a broken neutral somewhere. You are probably reading high on that cct but low on the other leg. I would get an electrician in asap a broken neutral could kill your devices or burn your house down.

Probably this, get a sparky in to check and repair bad wiring first. I found some messed up wiring in my house the first few years in, usually by getting shocked haha. All my 2 way switches were messed. I have a Fluke IV, I would video record the live displayed data with my phone.

I rarely turn the power off if I need to install a celling light, fan, receptacle or switch unless absolutely necessary, quite experienced working in live panels here so YMMV. Getting shocked with 120/240v 1PH is really no problem unless your jumping into the bathtub with it. I hit myself with 30A, 100vdc one time and it definitely could have held on to me if I wasn't working overhead and I dropped down and away from my dmm leads. 575vac can hurts pretty intensely. My examples are not applicable but I felt like sharing.