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ragu
05-15-2023, 05:47 PM
I hear this stuff works wonders for weed control/ lawn care. Called UFA and they only give it to acreages. Anyone wants to help me buy some or has alternatives that are this cost effective? For reference, 10L is $150!

ExtraSlow
05-15-2023, 05:54 PM
It's Trillium. Very similar to Par III aka Par 3 and "Premium 3-way".


Good shit, illegal to sell inside the city because of some bullshit. It's expensive but you do dilute like 20:1 or something. I always diluted less than reccomend. (please read and follow the label instructions).

2Legit2Quit
05-15-2023, 05:57 PM
https://ufa.com/myUFA/Crop/Crop-Protection/Herbicide/Cereal-BL-Herbicide/Trillion®---10-L/p/809575

ExtraSlow
05-15-2023, 06:05 PM
Shit it is trillion, wow. I stand corrected on the spelling.

Jlude
05-15-2023, 06:13 PM
I thought this would be about the new show "Trillions", the same showrunner that made "Billions" --> https://ew.com/tv/billions-spin-offs-millions-trillions/

I have nothing of value to add.

nismodrifter
05-15-2023, 07:04 PM
It has the same ingredients as Killex which you can buy anywhere. :dunno:

ExtraSlow
05-15-2023, 07:30 PM
I thought killex was just 2-4-d? But yeah killex is effective as well.

ThePenIsMightier
05-15-2023, 07:33 PM
I thought killex was just 2-4-d? But yeah killex is effective as well.

No, it's all 3.
Different ratios, I assume, but same typical 3.

ExtraSlow
05-15-2023, 08:09 PM
Then giver. I never looked closely.

KRyn
05-15-2023, 08:22 PM
I hear this stuff works wonders for weed control/ lawn care. Called UFA and they only give it to acreages. Anyone wants to help me buy some or has alternatives that are this cost effective? For reference, 10L is $150!

Group buy? I could use of this to nuke everything outside my fence line. Nothing worked I tried last year, figure I would try a scorched earth policy this year.

littledan
05-15-2023, 08:32 PM
Contains dicamba, mecocrop p, and 24d. Was thinking of using this year but decided against it due to children. If i had a purely ornamental lawn i would use for sure.

ragu
05-15-2023, 09:14 PM
Group buy? I could use of this to nuke everything outside my fence line. Nothing worked I tried last year, figure I would try a scorched earth policy this year.

We need to find someone with acreage address to buy this stuff… I’m definitely in if there’sa volunteer.


I thought killex was just 2-4-d? But yeah killex is effective as well.

Except that stuff is $40/ liter and diluted.

gwill
05-16-2023, 07:44 PM
If your in the city stop being a cheap bastard and hire a lawn company. I paid $200 to $300 over the years for 6 visits and the lawn never looked better.

Only thing I'd ask is if their spraying the lawn and the weeds. Had one company dropping seeds one year and wouldn't pay for that service as I'd do that myself.

I'm in the country. I'll have to consider getting this and a sprayer.

If anyone's having issues with ants ive come across some crap that's completely destroyed nests and eliminated them over night.

ExtraSlow
05-16-2023, 07:56 PM
In for #antdeath

vengie
05-16-2023, 08:00 PM
X3 on ant death

BokCh0y
05-16-2023, 09:51 PM
In for #antdeath and also group buy for trillion.

ThePenIsMightier
05-16-2023, 10:21 PM
Ant death isn't complicated. It's whatever has the "borax" word attached to it. It's a cholinesterase inhibitor that they identify as food, mark it to tell the colony, and carry to The Queen.
Do NOT get it on you, drink/eat/breath because it's not good for humans but it comes in a fucking eye dropper, so find the nest or feeding areas and profit.

At the end of the day, it's pretty debatable that ants even damage a lawn anyways. I use to literally plant peoneas on/around/in an ant nest as they are often part of a reasonably sustainable ecosystem.

ExtraSlow
05-17-2023, 06:50 AM
Yeah I've used 20 Mule team Borax and sugar water before. Thought there was something better. This seemed sorta effective. Not amazing.

gwill
05-17-2023, 12:44 PM
I tried borax all last year with no luck. Tried liquid traps. Those small metal traps... and although they probably killed some ants they made no noticeable difference.

Spoke with a guy I met who owns a pest control company and he gave me a water bottle marked malahion. I added 3 tablespoons to 1 gallon of water and sprayed the perimeter of the house and a bunch of ant nests.

I went from hundreds of ants around my driveway to zero immediately. I had a massive nest 3 feet long. I sprayed it while hitting it with a shovel to get into the nest a bit. You could see thousands of ants at the surface. They were gone the next day.

Hit another nest with the same results. It's been about 4 days and I can't find an ant anywhere they normally are. Apparently this works great with spiders and other insects. Doesn't affect the grass.

When I Googled the product looks like it may be malathion. The water bottle I got had it written on the bottle. I'll try and confirm with this pest guy for exact product name and where one can buy it.

For the massive amount of ants on my acreage this was magical. I still need to run around and hit a few more nests hidden in the trees around my place.

ThePenIsMightier
05-17-2023, 12:54 PM
I believe Malathion has been banned for decades.

I think it's still used industrially to control mosquitoes, but I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure it kills everything.

2Legit2Quit
05-17-2023, 01:11 PM
When I was still in the city I had Martin's come out as I got tired of ants in our backyard/patio area, went from lots of ants to zero ants real quick.

What they used, sprayed all the edges of patio area, house and garden beds. Then tossed bait around.

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gwill
05-17-2023, 03:52 PM
I believe Malathion has been banned for decades.

I think it's still used industrially to control mosquitoes, but I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure it kills everything.

I'll double check exactly what it is but quit sure its malathion. A quick Google shows malathion available at Canadian tire right now.

Happy it's worked as nothing else I tried last year had the results I wanted.

10 min of spraying and I was good to go.

gwill
06-04-2023, 05:18 PM
Picked up some trillion from UFA. All they asked for was my land description. This is not on your ID. Essentially anyone can go in as long as you have someone's land description to provide.

They also carry malathion. A 10 liter jug was $350 or so. When you only need 3 to 4 table spoons per gallon 10 liters was a bit much. They did have regular malathion but the small jugs are only good for 1 or 2 uses each.

littledan
06-04-2023, 06:32 PM
Land description like your quarter section square plotty number or your land description like i own a meadow down by a creek and its full of weeds and shit?

suntan
06-04-2023, 06:40 PM
I have tracts of land.

ExtraSlow
06-04-2023, 06:56 PM
I have tracts of land.

Huge tracts

suntan
06-04-2023, 08:04 PM
Pride month baby.

gwill
06-04-2023, 08:16 PM
Land description like your quarter section square plotty number or your land description like i own a meadow down by a creek and its full of weeds and shit?

Physical land description like w 54 3 28 247 blah blah blah... I had to pull up my power bill as I had no clue what mine was.

killramos
06-04-2023, 08:50 PM
A coworker claims he was able to buy par 3 online last week, apparently just had a batch arrive.