2024 USA presidential Election - MEGA THREAD

[ExtraSlow]

Hope this doesn't turn into a TDS festival. A guy can dream.

Anyone been following this Vivek Ramaswamy dude? Heard him on the all in podcast and was pretty impressed. Don't agree with it all but seems like a message that could resonate.

Can't tell if DeSantis is electable or not, but I do think Florida has been showing some interesting stuff lately.

I am pretty sure the Deomacrats would prefer to face The Donald. I sure hope for everyone's sake that he does not become the canadiate. His time has passed.

Haven't been following the democratic primaries. I know some of you do. Looking forward to learning more. Even though I don't get a vote. American politics is rarely boring.

[ExtraSlow]

Some coverage here: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/8/24/five-key-takeaways-from-the-first-republican-us-presidential-debate

[pheoxs]

The Republican debate last night ... went as one would expect and really did showcase what the future of the party has in store. It's not great. I think of all the candidates the decent one seems to be Nikki Haley. At least she had some decent points on foreign policy though she still has unfavorable stances on social issues.

[ZenOps]

Missed it. Comrade Desantis must have been talking up a storm though.

[ExtraSlow]

The USA needs less foreign policy. That's my opinion.

[ThePenIsMightier]

What's "TDS"?

[Xtrema]

The USA needs less foreign policy. That's my opinion.

Too late on that. We are all riding on USA fucking shit up and be on the winning side.


The Republican debate last night ... went as one would expect and really did showcase what the future of the party has in store. It's not great. I think of all the candidates the decent one seems to be Nikki Haley. At least she had some decent points on foreign policy though she still has unfavorable stances on social issues.

NYT delcare Nikki winner and alternative to Trump.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/24/opinion/nikki-haley-republican-debate-winner.html

[ExtraSlow]

Too late on that. We are all riding on USA fucking shit up and be on the winning side. Can you explain what you mean, because I feel like I'd be interested, but I have no idea.

[max_boost]

trump gonna get the nomination and they saying Vivek Ramaswamy as VP but Nikki Haley also makes sense

The Dems side, Biden is old old he just needs to stop talking :nut: Kamala Harris is a nope. Gavin Newsom perhaps?

2024 is US politics gonna be super exciting. Seriously just pls do something with MJ. Decrim, reschedule, whatever it is, throw it to the State, my stonks need a boost.

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Also, RFK Jr is quite the wild card too.

[Xtrema]

Can you explain what you mean, because I feel like I'd be interested, but I have no idea.

US foreign policy is about fucking whoever's shit up that threaten their dominance. We ride on that dominance and hope all the shit stirring doesn't come back and bite them, which will bite us.

[ExtraSlow]

Ah I see. Yeah, they need to do less in terms of foreign adventures, it sounds like you agree with me.

[msommers]

US foreign policy is about fucking whoever's shit up that threaten their dominance. We ride on that dominance and hope all the shit stirring doesn't come back and bite them, which will bite us.

I'd say Canada is doing a good job pissing off China just fine on their own.

[Xtrema]

I'd say Canada is doing a good job pissing off China just fine on their own.

Fun part is US is dealing all the blows and we are getting all the blow backs.

That's said, Banff doesn't need any more tourists anyway.

[max_boost]

tbh as crappy as the Americans can be with all the foreign stuff, perhaps if you go with KANT - intentions - Americans had good intentions so it absolves them

or consequentialism, the results are shit so therefore it's all their fault

that's all i know about philosophy aha

anyhow, you rather deal with the americans or the brics?? Idk I still rather hold USD>all else :dunno:

[CompletelyNumb]

Vivek was leagues above all the others in that debate. Run away victory in all aspects.

Probably still a shitty human. And won't beat Trump (IMO).


The real question is who would be best for Canada?

None of them

[ExtraSlow]

I think the interviews on the all in podcast are the very best. That Dean dude was fascinating.

[killramos]

So. Trump vs Biden 2.0.

[max_boost]

So. Trump vs Biden 2.0.

Oh you know it
But who will be his running mate? Vivek? Nikki? Nikki still putting up the good fight for sure, she still hanging in there

Biden so fragile oh man , he won’t debate but trump would wreck him easily lol

[asp integra]

If it's Biden V Trump, I think it's safe to say Trump will be taking the win. From what i can tell, it looks like momentum is swinging back to the republicans.

[vengie]

Dems will do everything they can to keep Trump off the ballot.
More lawsuits are coming.

[Misterman]

If it's Biden V Trump, I think it's safe to say Trump will be taking the win. From what i can tell, it looks like momentum is swinging back to the republicans.

Yeah but look how that panned out last time. Most popular President in modern history, lost to a guy that nobody liked or supported after a flood of ballots magically showed up after they closed polls and sent observers home for the night. Never underestimate the power of fraud.

[asp integra]

Dems will do everything they can to keep Trump off the ballot.
More lawsuits are coming.


Yeah but look how that panned out last time. Most popular President in modern history, lost to a guy that nobody liked or supported after a flood of ballots magically showed up after they closed polls and sent observers home for the night. Never underestimate the power of fraud.

Oh if Trump is the Republican candidate, I can guarantee the Dems will do anything and everything possible to make sure he doesn't win.

[ExtraSlow]

Dems will do everything they can to keep Trump off the ballot.
More lawsuits are coming.

Weirdly, I think this offends "normal voters" enough to guarantee a Trump victory. It also sets a terrible precedent.

[Brent.ff]

Yeah but look how that panned out last time. Most popular President in modern history, lost to a guy that nobody liked or supported after a flood of ballots magically showed up after they closed polls and sent observers home for the night. Never underestimate the power of fraud.

lol.

never change.

[kertejud2]

Oh if Trump is the Republican candidate, I can guarantee the Dems will do anything and everything possible to make sure he doesn't win.

Maybe they’ll even go as far as storming the Capitol to try and prevent the counting of electoral votes. Could you imagine?

[ExtraSlow]

Maybe they’ll even go as far as storming the Capitol to try and prevent the counting of electoral votes. Could you imagine?

I actually can.

[Xtrema]

I actually can.


https://youtu.be/aDyQxtg0V2w

[Kloubek]

I truly cannot wrap my head around why it is so difficult for the US and ourselves to find truly competent and decent leaders for each party. Someone who's more neutral/moderate and honest. That's all both countries need - and have for some time!

For the US, it's a decision between a narcissistic bigot who puts sociological advancement back 5 years for every year he's in office, opposed to a guy who might actually not be a bad dude overall, but can barely walk upright and gets lucky when a short speech is remotely coherent.
For Canada, there's Trudeau who has run this country into the ground with his poor spending and virtue signaling, and wracked up the debt while being 2-faced as fuck, opposed to Poilievre - who is supremely negative and spends most of his time putting down the Liberals instead of providing details on how he intends to turn the ship around.

We need strong leaders who work for the people and unify the public. That's always the case, but it's especially important during difficult times with the economy struggling, citizens divided, and violence erupting all over the world and to a smaller degree - internally.

[Xtrema]

I truly cannot wrap my head around why it is so difficult for the US and ourselves to find truly competent and decent leaders for each party. Someone who's more neutral/moderate and honest. That's all both countries need - and have for some time!

15 years of social media basically removed a lot of candidates.

I hope Haley holds on.

[rage2]

I hope Haley holds on.
I can’t see US electing an Indian woman as president today. That said, they might think she’s a white woman because she’s disguised herself well.

The race card will be played if she does well imo.

[vengie]

I truly cannot wrap my head around why it is so difficult for the US and ourselves to find truly competent and decent leaders for each party. Someone who's more neutral/moderate and honest. That's all both countries need - and have for some time!

For the US, it's a decision between a narcissistic bigot who puts sociological advancement back 5 years for every year he's in office, opposed to a guy who might actually not be a bad dude overall, but can barely walk upright and gets lucky when a short speech is remotely coherent.
For Canada, there's Trudeau who has run this country into the ground with his poor spending and virtue signaling, and wracked up the debt while being 2-faced as fuck, opposed to Poilievre - who is supremely negative and spends most of his time putting down the Liberals instead of providing details on how he intends to turn the ship around.

We need strong leaders who work for the people and unify the public. That's always the case, but it's especially important during difficult times with the economy struggling, citizens divided, and violence erupting all over the world and to a smaller degree - internally.

This is what happens when "woke" short term politics takes over.

The "leader" has a personal incentive to keep the masses happy so they vote them back in 4 years later.
This has lead to the phenomenon of politicking towards social media trends.

In reality, a true leader sometimes needs to do the unpopular thing, with long term sustainability and focus in mind. However that is career suicide in today's political climate.

[Misterman]

I truly cannot wrap my head around why it is so difficult for the US and ourselves to find truly competent and decent leaders for each party. Someone who's more neutral/moderate and honest. That's all both countries need - and have for some time!

For the US, it's a decision between a narcissistic bigot who puts sociological advancement back 5 years for every year he's in office, opposed to a guy who might actually not be a bad dude overall, but can barely walk upright and gets lucky when a short speech is remotely coherent.
For Canada, there's Trudeau who has run this country into the ground with his poor spending and virtue signaling, and wracked up the debt while being 2-faced as fuck, opposed to Poilievre - who is supremely negative and spends most of his time putting down the Liberals instead of providing details on how he intends to turn the ship around.

We need strong leaders who work for the people and unify the public. That's always the case, but it's especially important during difficult times with the economy struggling, citizens divided, and violence erupting all over the world and to a smaller degree - internally.

Not that hard to wrap your head around. If you're a competent successful leader, you'll be wildly successful in the private realm. Why in the hell would you want to run for office which pays less, and have you and your family drug through the mud, for no perceived benefit? The only benefit comes if you're corrupt POS.

There's very few people like a Vivek or Trump, who has been extremely successful enough that they could even begin to think about funding a campaign without massive donations from corporate scum that they are supposed to be protecting their voters from. And also happen to have a huge passion for maintaining the western way of life for future generations to be successful themselves, in spite of the hugely negative consequences they'll face to do so.

So in the odd chance you get someone with those 2 very rare qualities, what's the chance they are also a perfect shining example of pure morality and perfect character?

Trump seems to walk upright just fine, I would say it's the narcissistic bigot that seems to struggle a lot more with his walking and coherent speech. Not sure what you're meaning about that?

[Hallowed_point]

Maybe that's a question you should ask Chynna.

I hope Trump gets back in, it's the only sane option at this point.

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Dean Philips. I like alcohol, ice cream and coffee.

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https://www.statista.com/chart/31602/efforts-to-remove-donald-trump-from-primary-ballots/

Can't understand this, seems like a sure way to turn off every moderate or undecided. Trump guaranteed to win now.

[vengie]

Now overlay that with democratic party states.

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It’s gonna hit the SC at some point and he will be on the ballot

[Xtrema]

Now overlay that with democratic party states.

You would think NE and West coast would be fully purple at this point.

[kertejud2]

You would think NE and West coast would be fully purple at this point.

Classic (D) strongholds of Texas and Florida really putting everyone on pins and needles with the suspense!

[SportEL]

Goodbye Warmonger Nikki Haley

Trump should make Vivek his VP. He will be a really good influence. Trump made many many stupid horrible choices when he was President.

Nice Short Vivek Speech at 5:34 Timestamp
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[ExtraSlow]

Vivek woukd actually be a good VP for Trump. He's well spoken and earnest, and also appears to be more measured, which DT needs.

[asp integra]

Vivek woukd actually be a good VP for Trump. He's well spoken and earnest, and also appears to be more measured, which DT needs.

I would be perfectly happy with that setup

[CompletelyNumb]

Of all the candidates, Vivek is the easiest to listen to. I have no doubt Trump will provide us with 4 more years of stand up comedy routines at his expense.

[Thaco]

Hilarious all these anti solcialist/communist clowns will stand behind someone who has 91 charges against him which are well supported and the vast majority would/should end in conviction (and only wont if he, as president can pardon himself), someone who LITERALLY said he will be dictator on day 1 and weaponize the DOJ against his political opponents... and will be in office for "4 more years, maybe more" (another constitutional defiance), and praising dictators around the world....

This asshole wants to end democracy! and you clowns want to support it! basically EVERY dictator was/is "conservative"

I hope you're ready for the US to invade us, give this clown no conciquences, and his antics will only escalate, he only cares about himself, and his name in history books, reguardless of how it paints him, fame is fame.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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[ZenOps]

At the end of the day, I'm pretty much ok with any president left, right, alien or AI - as long as they keep printing money.

"A small loan of a Billion dollars" Trumps great grandson?

[vengie]

That was the mindless, morning rant from Thaco I was hoping to read while sipping a coffee.
Leaving satisfied.

Honk Honk.

[ExtraSlow]

Thaco, I don't think Biden is nearly as bad as you say.

[Sugarphreak]

So. Trump vs Biden 2.0.

Pretty much

Battle of the old white men

[pheoxs]

Somewhat poetically Trump has been ranting against Haley that she needs to just accept the voting results and drop out of the race.

[T-Dubbs]

Somewhat poetically Trump has been ranting against Haley that she needs to just accept the voting results and drop out of the race.

without a hint of irony.......:rofl:

[bjstare]

If electing Trump -> US is invading Canada, bring it on baby.

[killramos]

If electing Trump -> US is invading Canada, bring it on baby.

Best case scenario.

Even better would be only invading some of Canada.

[kertejud2]

Not that hard to wrap your head around. If you're a competent successful leader, you'll be wildly successful in the private realm. Why in the hell would you want to run for office which pays less, and have you and your family drug through the mud, for no perceived benefit? The only benefit comes if you're corrupt POS.


This is pretty bang on analysis.