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SmelltheRubber
10-13-2002, 01:41 PM
Anyone notice the blazing-fast 4 door stock cavaliers around town? :rolleyes:
Saturday, going down Deerfoot and then across Beddington and Country Hills, I ran into 3 seperate 4 door cavaliers all being driven like their a ferrari disguised as a cavalier or something... wtf
Anyways, I had some fun with the last cavalier I ran into that night. I saw him coming up behind me weaving through traffic like a fool. Anyways, as he comes up behind me, I speed up and match speeds with this car in the other lane. The fag in the cavalier starts tailgating me, so I let the accelerator go and start to slow down. When there is enough distance between me and the car next to me, the cavalier switches lanes and tries to pass. I drop a gear and speed up so that he gets stuck behind me and the other car again. Hahha, I was watching him in my rearview and he was giving me the finger and shit. I did the slow-down/speed-up maneuver at least 4 times before the car in the other lane took a right. The cavailer switches lanes and comes up next to me. The dude and his passenger are all looking me and cussing, I rolled my window down and laughed at them, then I dropped 2 gears and took off. :rofl:
Last I saw they took the next left on to Shaganappi.
gpomp
10-13-2002, 02:09 PM
You need to fix the proportions of your avatar. I keep thinking you drive a Stealth cuz that's what it looks.... Good kill BTW.
mwmhong
10-13-2002, 02:20 PM
LOL! Beware them car-fighting Cavaliers!

Similar incident happened on the way back from Edmonton, heavy traffic in both lanes, slower traffic to the right.

I'm in left lane, this dark green Ford Escort ZX2 is tailgating me @ 120 kph. WTF? So I speed up, keeps tailgating me, I floor it to get some distance, ZX2 slowly catches up and tailgates again, I can't go any faster than traffic in front, still the ZX2 tailgates. Speed up, catch up, tailgate. Repeat, repeat.

Then after about a half hour of the same cycle, ZX2 pulls the change up, goes right lane/left lane weaving through traffic trying to get in front of me, ends up falling further behind. Get's pissed, has to fight vigorously to catch up.

ZX2 didn't get in front until we got into Calgary, then I retaliated with my own tailgating on Deerfoot, gave ZX2 a taste of their own medicine. The driver kept looking in rear-view, slowed to 90kph and let me go by.

Some people can dish it out and can't take it.
GTS Jeff
10-13-2002, 02:26 PM
im not the only one who notices the dumbass cavaliers!

sunfire drivers are better tho...they are usually hot chicks anyway.
Ben
10-13-2002, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Jeff TYPE R
im not the only one who notices the dumbass cavaliers!

sunfire drivers are better tho...they are usually hot chicks anyway.


Good times...good times...

We hunt them down in the Beast Mobile!!!
infamous
10-13-2002, 02:54 PM
either that or retards who always want to race in their sunfires :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Davetronz
10-13-2002, 03:19 PM
Hahahahhahahahahahahaha....
Hahahahahahahahhahahahaha....
James
10-13-2002, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by infamous
either that or retards who always want to race in their sunfires :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Who would do such a thing!:rolleyes: :rofl:
infamous
10-13-2002, 04:34 PM
cough cough *aboveandbeyond* cough cough :confused:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
GTS Jeff
10-13-2002, 05:19 PM
i just got home...on the highway, this dumbass in a cavalier is zipping thru heavy traffic like hes hot shit. so i got up next to him with a slow car in front of hime and boxed his ass in. he rolled the window down and i told him that his car must be pretty powerful to go so fast hahahah
SmelltheRubber
10-13-2002, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by Jeff TYPE R
i just got home...on the highway, this dumbass in a cavalier is zipping thru heavy traffic like hes hot shit. so i got up next to him with a slow car in front of hime and boxed his ass in. he rolled the window down and i told him that his car must be pretty powerful to go so fast hahahah


:thumbsup: :clap: :rofl: <---- These do more justice than words.
Davetronz
10-14-2002, 03:04 AM
Nice one Jeff! Did he reply to you?
GTS Jeff
10-14-2002, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by TurboDSM
Nice one Jeff! Did he reply to you? he scrunched up his face and held out his middle finger.

:nut:
Davetronz
10-14-2002, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by Jeff TYPE R
he scrunched up his face and held out his middle finger.

:nut:
Maverick: I was keeping up foreign communications... I flipped him the bird....
Goose: You know, the finger *gives the middle finger to the Top Gun instructor*
ninjak84
10-14-2002, 04:17 PM
the "beast-mobile" sounds alot like good times on 4 wheels. haha, keep it up :)
finboy
10-15-2002, 12:13 AM
<--- hates j-bodies

what i hate even more is when the owners thing they are fast. ugh.

i can't cocnt how many of the idiots there are.

YOUR CARS AREN'T FAST!!!!

damn.

you should see my work, there were 5 employees with j bodies, all where girls. maybe the f&f wannabe's should take a hint.
Scott
10-17-2002, 02:21 AM
I have to say that some of our j-bodies are fast. And those of us that arent modded yet are still "quick". A stock j-body will run a high 15 or low 16 so we arent that slow.
finboy
10-17-2002, 02:28 AM
i will give a little respect to the ecotec 4cyl, as it is found in one of my favorite cars (opel speedster).

but the ones in the 2.2's PISS ME OFF, and give the ecotec guys a bad name.

btw, whats with the dual tips? :D

jk man
Scott
10-17-2002, 02:32 AM
I dunno, it just looks bitchin. The GT has stock duals so i just kept it that way, oh yeah, and a 2.4 twin cam.

I agree, the 2.2 is kinda lame, its still a pushrod motor (who knows, maybe the ignition still has points too :D )
finboy
10-17-2002, 02:34 AM
...4 cyl push rod.

how the fock does that work????
Scott
10-17-2002, 02:36 AM
lol, the 2.2 is still a pushrod motor, if you look at it, the valve cover is about an inch tall. It still uses pushrods to work the valves.
GTS Jeff
10-17-2002, 10:31 AM
how is the ecotec a good motor?
Davan
10-17-2002, 10:55 AM
The ecotec motor was designed by Saab and Opel. It's bascially the EXACT same design as the Nissan SR20, only it's an open deck as opposed to a closed deck. Just provides better cooling.

GM has built up an ecotec motor that they use in drag racing. They are pushing 800 horsepower still on the stock block and head.

As for the old 2.2 Yeah, it's a peice of shit. And give all Sunfire GT and Cavalier Z24's a bad name. 115 horsepower compared to 150. and 135 ft-lb compared to 155. The Z24 and GT model are quick enough to do well in their class. Obviously they are no Type R killers. But they fair well enough against SiR's and GSR's.

The quality and build quality is horrible. But don't underestimate them on the street.
three.eighteen.
10-17-2002, 07:35 PM
wouldnt the prev gen Z24s be faster than the new ones? 3.1 V6 in a relatively light car...but i managed to walk away from one in 3rd after a bogged start
Davan
10-17-2002, 09:23 PM
Actually, the 2nd gen Z24, is a notch slower than the 3rd gens. They have more torque (185), but little less horsepower (140) and a bit more weight (~150 pounds more). I think the gearing has much to do with it as well.
Redlyne_mr2
10-17-2002, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by Davan


GM has built up an ecotec motor that they use in drag racing. They are pushing 800 horsepower still on the stock block and head.


I think you might have your facts mixed up, yes they did get 800 hp out of it but it was not with a stock block or head, there wers stock components still there such as the actual block and head but most of the internals had been change
three.eighteen.
10-17-2002, 09:59 PM
yeah...for the drag car they actually cut down the stroke to make it a 2.0, they changed everything except the block virtually
GTS Jeff
10-17-2002, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by Davan
The ecotec motor was designed by Saab and Opel. It's bascially the EXACT same design as the Nissan SR20, only it's an open deck as opposed to a closed deck. Just provides better cooling.

GM has built up an ecotec motor that they use in drag racing. They are pushing 800 horsepower still on the stock block and head.

As for the old 2.2 Yeah, it's a peice of shit. And give all Sunfire GT and Cavalier Z24's a bad name. 115 horsepower compared to 150. and 135 ft-lb compared to 155. The Z24 and GT model are quick enough to do well in their class. Obviously they are no Type R killers. But they fair well enough against SiR's and GSR's.

The quality and build quality is horrible. But don't underestimate them on the street. well, open or closed deck doesnt really matter much for the applications of the ecotec..its not exactly a JZE engine haha...

actually i had no idea that saab and opel designed the engine, but i guess i shouldnt be surprised. how is it similar to the sr20?
Davan
10-18-2002, 03:27 PM
Actually, it is the stock block and stock head, reinforced. Read for yourself.

http://www.year2032.com/ecotec.htm

Obviously the internals are swapped out for stronger peices. I never said they weren't.
Davan
10-18-2002, 03:29 PM
At the very bottom of the article is a chart that shows what they replaced, and when.

The block is stock, with new sleeves put in @ 750 hp
Head is stock, reinforced when they hit 650
Rods, pistons, rings, wrist pins all replaced.

It's actually quite a good article. :)
SmelltheRubber
10-18-2002, 05:07 PM
Its always fascinating to see how car-bashing eventually turns into a heated techie debate... by the way, my "pushrod" is bigger than yours! :bigpimp:
Davan
10-18-2002, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by SmelltheRubber

by the way, my "pushrod" is bigger than yours! :bigpimp:

:D :D :D Errr..... I don't have pushrods.... does that make me less of a man? :D :D :D
Scott
10-19-2002, 04:44 AM
uh oh, youre right Davan, Is that why everyone calls them "girlie" cars?? because they dont have a push rod?? lol