Shaw Cable XTREME

[Weapon_R]

Any thoughts yet? Experiences, etc? Is it worth it?

[JAYMEZ]

5 Mb download speed*
1 Mb upload speed*
Shaw Email Filter for managing junk email
7 personal email address and 10 MB webspace per email address
2 IP Addresses
Secure and reliable access
Always On connection
24/7/365 technical support & service calls included
Webmail - global access to email
Access to Shaw's customizable home page start.shaw.ca
Constant network performance monitoring


add $10 bucks to current bill , damn i think ill try it. :thumbsup:

[GingeRRRBeef]

ok ok hardware wise ... what's the difference???

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by Silver_SpecV
ok ok hardware wise ... what's the difference??? u use the docsys (sp?) modems.

[Doomsday88]

I'm currently on Shaw Extreme....to be honest you won't notice a difference with normal web browsing, the biggest difference comes in your downloads, I run 4 torrents with uploads of 50+K each and still ping 100-150 in CS on a local server. So the bandwidth is larger. I run 4 PC's off the same connection and still get awsome ping. The cost is $10 more/month if you have shaw high speed with shaw cable tv. If you're just running shaw high speed internet it is $15 more/month. You also need to upgrade into one of the new DOCSIS modems, you can purchase one for $60 or shaw will upgrade your current modem for $25.

Some inside info for you guys, because the modems are so new shaw currently is unable to track the bandwidth on these modems, so download all you want no nasty e-mail/phone call regarding downloading too much stuff!

Hope this helps.

[sputnik]

If you dont need the speed RIGHT NOW. Just be patient as Shaw is going to be converting over EVERYONE to DOCSIS 2.0 and will be shutting down the old network.

DOCSIS 2.0 is much more scaleable and this is a direction Shaw is going anyways. They are just charging people more who want to get on it right now.

I have spoken with a number of friends of mine with Shaw and they all recommend just hanging onto the current modem for as long as possible. As more people are moved to DOCSIS 2.0 the current network will get more and more empty... and eventually there will be barely anyone on it and you will have full run of it with TONS of available bandwidth.

XTREME for now will only useful for the BitTorrent addicts. For average everyday users it is a waste for money.

[GTS Jeff]

hmmm i thought shaw was upgrading peoples modems to docsis ones for free.

[sputnik]

They are. However if you want it NOW you have to pay for it.

Eventually everyone will probably be the same as XTREME is now, and the people paying extra will get increased bandwidth or a $10 "discount".

[Ben]

I still have the ancient white Cypersurfer modem from the Wave days, hahaha.

[Weapon_R]

Any idea when the new system is going to be fully implemented?

[googe]

Funny approach by shaw, DOCSIS 1.1 is easily capable of these speeds, shaw has just put rate limits on uploads...so the hardware really isnt neccesarry, the just wont uncap you unless you help them cut costs switching networks.

[sputnik]

Originally posted by googe
Funny approach by shaw, DOCSIS 1.1 is easily capable of these speeds, shaw has just put rate limits on uploads...so the hardware really isnt neccesarry, the just wont uncap you unless you help them cut costs switching networks.

the DOCSIS 2.0 modems allow them to better scale in neighbourhoods so they can decrease the number of POPs they need.

Its not just a speed thing. Its a matter or architecture.

[googe]

Originally posted by sputnik


the DOCSIS 2.0 modems allow them to better scale in neighbourhoods so they can decrease the number of POPs they need.

Its not just a speed thing. Its a matter or architecture.

Right, but Im saying this hardware change is not necessary for the end user to be capable of these speeds, it is just in shaws best interest, to optimize their own network.

[speedracer]

Originally posted by googe


Right, but Im saying this hardware change is not necessary for the end user to be capable of these speeds, it is just in shaws best interest, to optimize their own network.

Pretty neat esp when you get to play at the telcom hub ;)

The main thing with 1.1 is it still costly with multiplexing performance and upstream takes a big hit.

DOCSIS 2.0 seems more effcient and with less upstream ports at the termination station. My Guess is Shaw prob wants to tap into the VOIP.
(The upgrade itself is not that costly compared to stream lining the current architecture - in the end it's all about $/bit)

Note: It's all relative in the end since your only going to see a burstable connection. :banghead:

[JAYMEZ]

I just ordered it , its gonna be installed on Tuesday , then ill tell ya how it is . $26.70 for installation ..

[sputnik]

Originally posted by speedracer

My Guess is Shaw prob wants to tap into the VOIP.


That would be awesome. It makes perfect sense since they are almost everywhere in Canada already.

Much better alternative to the Primus VOIP.

[Ben]

Shaw has been getting into the VOIP market for over a year now. Hell, look at your set top boxes. nice IP modem data port on the back of them all :)

[JAYMEZ]

Just got it in , seems pretty damn smooth , and downloading is super quick!

My local area connection icon used to show 10.0mbps now it shows 100.0mbps :D

[sputnik]

Originally posted by Ben
Shaw has been getting into the VOIP market for over a year now. Hell, look at your set top boxes. nice IP modem data port on the back of them all :)

From a reliable contact at Shaw...

Shaw will be unveiling its VOIP service this year around Aug-Sept. It still has yet to be named, but it being heavily tested right now.

The pricing will be competive to Primus:

$20/month - Standard service with 3 numbers (different area codes available)
$40/month - Full service which includes unlimited LD to Canada/US

[hjr]

im positive that the docsis 2 modems are a strait trade for your normal modem. the are just taking the old one and giving out the new one. no cost (at least in edmonton).

[JAYMEZ]

just got this on a dl


2270.8kb/sec off download.com

[rice_eater]

could the "old" network be emptying out that quickly? i got some torents going right now and they average at about 70k downloand and 85+ upload :eek: :)

[JAYMEZ]

Just hit 3100.2kb/sec , ive never gone this fast ever.

[GingeRRRBeef]

Originally posted by JAYMEZ_STi
Just hit 3100.2kb/sec , ive never gone this fast ever.

That's sick!!!!

w00t p0Rn like never before!!!! :angel: :hitit:

[JAYMEZ]

^^^ LOL

[Chester]

have you played any games with it yet JAYMEZ?

[JAYMEZ]

Im waiting for my new computer to come in (thrusday) , then im gonna play some mutli games with it . should be fun =)

new system

Intel P4 3.40mhz
1536DDR ram
256 Vid

[Chester]

:eek:

[JAYMEZ]

ya im gonna being doin alot of :eek: when it comes home to me lol

[Doomsday88]

Originally posted by JAYMEZ_STi
Im waiting for my new computer to come in (thrusday) , then im gonna play some mutli games with it . should be fun =)

new system

Intel P4 3.40mhz
1536DDR ram
256 Vid

That sounds like one sick system! :nut:

[Ben]

damn! Time to give that a shot!

[JAYMEZ]

$3171.96 at Memory Express.

[Doomsday88]

:eek:

what are the specs on that bad boy? I'm curious what $3100 will get you.

[CKY]

i think with the extra $10 the customer deserves more than 10mb of webspace for email address

[Doomsday88]

Guess that really limits the porn video trading via e-mail doesn't it?

[Kobe]

how much can you download on Shaw XTREME
and how much can you upload

shaw always calls when i download like 15gB month its getting pretty annoying..

[A2VR6]

I think it's something like 50GB download and 10GB upload

[googe]

Originally posted by A2VR6
I think it's something like 50GB download and 10GB upload

where did you find this? for home users its like, 6GB. id be surprised!

[RiCE-DaDDy]

wheres this news bout how everyone is gonna be "xtreme" eventually? and for free too?

[Doomsday88]

if you read my post from above, currently DOCSIS modems aren't able to be bandwidth tracked....so they really don't know how much bandwidth you are using if you're on a DOCSIS modem. So...unlimited! Torrent as much as you can, while you can! don't beleive me, get a DOCSIS modem and then log into the secure site and check your bandwidth usage for the month, it will read 0.

[JAYMEZ]

Right now for shaw extreme , there is no max dl or uploading put yet.

[RiCE-DaDDy]

Hmmm should i go for XTREME now? or wait?

[GingeRRRBeef]

Originally posted by JAYMEZ_STi
Right now for shaw extreme , there is no max dl or uploading put yet.




Did you have to pay for the new modem???

[RiCE-DaDDy]

29142.9 Kbps - You

uhhh:confused: .......:clap:

[JAYMEZ]

I didnt , my old was rented anyways and had it for like 4 years. This was 24 somethin to install and 10 bucks extra on the bill.

[RiCE-DaDDy]

well i bought the modem for $70 and its only $5 monthly and paid no installation.

[JAYMEZ]

ya not bad at all , its way faster.

[GoChris]

i paid nothing for install, got my modem switched for free.
it maxes out at the 5Mbps they say almost all the time. downloading well over 100GB a month and no one complaining yet. upload is fast but dont use it, get the full 1Mbps upload they claim only when not downloading. when downloading upload is slower.

pretty good for $15/month extra for those that hate to wait.

[JAYMEZ]

Its not gonna come into other ppls houses for a while , so if you dont want to wait , get it now :D

[soupey]

hehe apparently 60gigs download and 30gigs upload is more than 60 times the average user....if this shaw xtreme thing is that good it'll b rellli worth it

[googe]

the terms of use says 50gb limit for extreme on shaw.ca

wonder how much itll be enforced

[Phats]

those are fast d/l and u/l speeds now but what will happen when everyone converts, how much do you think these speeds will slow?

[JAYMEZ]

The guy said it really wont slow down, something about the new program and wireing? i dunno , im not a comp guy.

[RiCE-DaDDy]

talked to shaw and they said xtreme will always be around. meaning they won't convert everyone for free.

[GingeRRRBeef]

Woo hoo!!! I just joined the club!!!! :clap: :clap:

[JAYMEZ]

Hah , what you think Silver? i tested the speed on www.download.com . damn its fast lol

[Xtrema]

Doomsday's theory is confirmed.

Just DOCSIS'ed 2 days ago for EXTREME. Been Bit Torrented for the last 2 days at a minimum of 15-20GB/day. No show on the secure modem tracking site.

But that doesn't mean it won't show up on their internal tracker. Can someone work for Shaw confirm this?

Also, Extreme suppose to raise the bandwidth limit to 50GB from 30GB for the extra $10/month. And the swap is free, I brought in my old beige brick and did an direct exchange for a new DOCSIS modem.

Speed increase? Some but not dramatic. Downloading @ 500KB/s VS 345KB/s on the old system, so bandwidth did increase a bit. Access time seems faster but I don't have anything to measure.

I did the upgrade simply to get Shaw off my back because of my 50+GB usage each month.

[GingeRRRBeef]

Originally posted by JAYMEZ_STi
Hah , what you think Silver? i tested the speed on www.download.com . damn its fast lol

Where the hell is the bandwidth test???? I can't find it on download.com!!!! :dunno:

[npham]

try www.cnet.com it's on the bottom right hand side of the page, I think you need calgary's airport code.

[GingeRRRBeef]

Originally posted by npham
try www.cnet.com it's on the bottom right hand side of the page, I think you need calgary's airport code.


ahhhhhh Danke! Not the airport code, the area code!

[googe]

bandwidth tests always suck though

i find you get way better speeds downloading files off of u of c servers or something

[RiCE-DaDDy]

Well i have uploaded over 30g now and no phone call!! :clap:

[A2VR6]

if you want a bandwith test just go to www.dslreports.com and click tools