2000 Audi S4 vs. 2004 Subaru WRX STI Prodrive

[E36M3]

It looks like I am going to buy either a 2000 S4 or a WRX STI UK SPEC Prodrive.

For about 50% more money, the WRX has a ton more power, bigger wheels, bigger (brembo) brakes and more aggressive suspension (probably better handling, but I haven't been able to test them at their limits).

On the other hand, the Audi is classier (doesn't look like a rice rocket), more comfortable and much lower key (less police harassment).

What do you guys think? Play it safe with a great Audi (only 24k miles) which has a bunch of tuning potential, or grab the Prodrive WRX?

BTW, the cars are for a small island in the UK with narrow roads with tons of twistys and no speed limit (the roads are literally a world famous racetrack).

[Fuji]

S4

[C4S]

An client of mine, even he had deposite on a 2004 Audi S4, but after he drove an 2004 STi, he bought the STi ! and he told me the STi is even faster, better handling and more Fun !

I tried the S4 2.7 turbo and the STi few times, honestly, STi is way nicer car, however, Audi is more classier as you said, but I am sure lots of Audi in UK ( you r in UK now ? )

The Prodrive is awesome ! and same 300hp too, all the review is positive !

However, I know that the 2.5L STi will sell in UK as well, with 350HP ( that area ) :dunno:

The EVO FQ-330 is insant too ! :thumbsup:

[E36M3]

I'm going to be spending lots of time in the UK (I'm here right now actually) so I need a car here.

The car is a 2004 Subaru WRX STI UK Spec ProDrive. Apparently it is quite a bit faster than the standard STI (0-60 in 4.6 vs. 0-60 in 5.2 and the 0-160mph and quarter miles are substantially faster).

The 19" wheels and Brembos are pretty sick.. but I can't get over the looks.


Originally posted by C4S
An client of mine, even he had deposite on a 2004 Audi S4, but after he drove an 2004 STi, he bought the STi ! and he told me the STi is even faster, better handling and more Fun !

I tried the S4 2.7 turbo and the STi few times, honestly, STi is way nicer car, however, Audi is more classier as you said, but I am sure lots of Audi in UK ( you r in UK now ? )

The Prodrive is awesome ! and same 300hp too, all the review is positive !

However, I know that the 2.5L STi will sell in UK as well, with 350HP ( that area ) :dunno:

The EVO FQ-330 is insant too ! :thumbsup:

[C4S]

Yeah ! the Pro-drive is perfect for the US " B-road " ( I dont know why the call it that way ! )

And our STi here is 2.5L , their is 2.0 L, but same HP ! sigh .. :dunno:

Go for the STi !

[JAYMEZ]

I saw a 2005 STi yesterday , go for the STi!

[Weapon_R]

Sti

[That.Guy.S30]

dude its from prodrive.. hahaah thats gotta mean somethin..

[962 kid]

sti :D I don't suppose your talking about the isle of man

[That.Guy.S30]

^^ uh if that directed to me than no. im talkin about the Sti tuned by prodrive..

[962 kid]

Originally posted by Thi_Thi Subs
^^ uh if that directed to me than no. im talkin about the Sti tuned by prodrive..


BTW, the cars are for a small island in the UK with narrow roads with tons of twistys and no speed limit (the roads are literally a world famous racetrack).

[Ben]

I love the fit and finish of the S4, but for pure power off the bat, yeah, cant beat the STI. I dont see you as an STI driver, but hey, people change.

[2000impreza]

sti is more raw performance.. s4 has more luxury to it. very different cars. depends on what your looking for.

[Strider]

Originally posted by E36M3
BTW, the cars are for a small island in the UK with narrow roads with tons of twistys and no speed limit (the roads are literally a world famous racetrack).

Forget the cars and get a Ducati or Aprilia :eek:

Or just get the STi

[That.Guy.S30]

Originally posted by 962 kid




haha fuck im so lost.. haha

[Inthered]

STI is like a racecar for the street, kinda like a faster Type R but with AWD. The S4 is a typical fast touring car with AWD. I'd definately go for the STI if you're looking to have waaayyy to much fun on a road. I'd definately try to get that thing sideways at least once a day.

What are you doing over in the UK?

[Impreza]

You MUST be referring to the isle of man!! wow! i saw them test a E46 M3 CSL on Top Gear there, AMAZING! GO for the CSL!! or STi i good too, i guess...haha



Originally posted by E36M3
It looks like I am going to buy either a 2000 S4 or a WRX STI UK SPEC Prodrive.

For about 50% more money, the WRX has a ton more power, bigger wheels, bigger (brembo) brakes and more aggressive suspension (probably better handling, but I haven't been able to test them at their limits).

On the other hand, the Audi is classier (doesn't look like a rice rocket), more comfortable and much lower key (less police harassment).

What do you guys think? Play it safe with a great Audi (only 24k miles) which has a bunch of tuning potential, or grab the Prodrive WRX?

BTW, the cars are for a small island in the UK with narrow roads with tons of twistys and no speed limit (the roads are literally a world famous racetrack).

[JAYMEZ]

Inthered they both have AWD , and with the STi you can change the settings DCCD.

[l/l/rX]

im biased. prodrive baby!! :eek: 19" rims!?!? no way! post a pic? plz! :thumbsup:

[DonJuan]

yeah i agree unless your 35+ and need an S4 beause you minivan isn't cutting it anymore then the STi is the obvious choice but I am glad that somone mentioned the EVO FQ-330.

[JAYMEZ]

Is he from UK??

[E36M3]

Yeah, I'm in the Isle of Man right now (in fact the TT Races are going on right now.. basically the craziest motorcycle races ever.. already 5 people have died this year). I moved one of my companies out here for tax and regulatory reasons so I am now living out here most of the time.

I think I am going to go pick up the S4 today. I really like the new look of the STI (the headlights are much more conservative) but it is a bit much still.. and my girlfriend doesn't like it.

I think I am going to mildly tune the S4 (suspension, brakes and some power upgrades, maybe targeting about 350bhp).

As for the M3 CSL test drive -- I literally did a test drive of a new E46 M3 6 speed, then an E46 M3 SMG then an E46 M3 CSL along the same route.. the dealership here provided the car and technical assistance to Top Gear while they were out here (difference of course is that they were running on closed roads and can drive a hell of a lot better than I can, but the dealer that took me out was one hell of a driver)

Hmm.. maybe I should grab an E46M3.

[R-Audi]

I cant believe I would be the first to suggest a RS4? You may not like the Wagon(Avant), but it comes with 18" wheels, 14" Brakes, Wide Body (compared to S4) and best of all 350hp. It is a tuned version of the S4 engine.
Nothing quite like a Wagon that can embarass supercars....

[googe]

STI without question :D

[mo_virgin]

Isle of man is INSANE!!!
those guys ride to die... keep in mind this is not a track, so when these guys crash, they crash into houses or rock walls or off cliffs.

But hey... if i had the chance to ride in it, i would.

Oh... and S4 without question, they STI has no class and is not good for everyday driving.

[E36M3]

It is insane.. I actually live on the course, so there is a possibility of someone hitting my (rock) fence and then flying into the yard (happens all the time).

Five dead already, only one of them racing :) Guess a bunch of bikers were doing the course before the race begun (the course is open roads) and 4 different people bit it.

As for the RS4, it is a great idea, but I think it would be more fun to get an S4 and bring it to RS4 or better spec.

ie. 350+ hp, 18/19" BBS rims, great suspension setup, big brakes, intercooler, etc.


Originally posted by mo_virgin
Isle of man is INSANE!!!
those guys ride to die... keep in mind this is not a track, so when these guys crash, they crash into houses or rock walls or off cliffs.

But hey... if i had the chance to ride in it, i would.

Oh... and S4 without question, they STI has no class and is not good for everyday driving.

[JAYMEZ]

Originally posted by mo_virgin
Isle of man is INSANE!!!
those guys ride to die... keep in mind this is not a track, so when these guys crash, they crash into houses or rock walls or off cliffs.

But hey... if i had the chance to ride in it, i would.

Oh... and S4 without question, they STI has no class and is not good for everyday driving.



And you know this from experience? Me and Googe drive them all the time as a everday driver , alot of people do. As for class , we make our own class.

[That.Guy.S30]

^^ no doubt.. he's probably never riden/driven in an STi before.

[JAYMEZ]

or S4 lol

[NotbadSTi]

By the way, anyone know .... who sell "chip" etc for STi ?

from Magazines, they said even mod the computer, can get extra 50-60 HP from the 1.99L turbo engine... how about the North American version 2.5L Turbo ? any upgrade can do and not costing too much ? :dunno:

[That.Guy.S30]

try cobb.com. they have the accessport out. i duno what other chip you are talkin to

[JAYMEZ]

You mean the UTEC NotbadSTi??

[lame-ocarguy]

Talking numbers cannot explain the difference in the two cars. I drove them both in the past few months as I was searching for a car. Drive them both. My bet - You'll take the S4 - I did.

If you REALLY need to have the fastest car ever, go ahead and throw some APR staged upgrades. You'll be smoking the STi's and still save mucho deneiro.

After I bought mine, I realized I didn't need to be the fastest car on the street...not when I can spend less and ride in luxury. A friend of mine bought an STi. He likes it, his girlfriend wanted a ride in mine though...so, you be the judge.

Peace,
lame-o
2000 S4 owner

[E36M3]

I went with the S4, and really enjoy it. To be honest, I can't believe it was even a contest.. I am really way too conservative for a Subaru (or maybe too old).

The interior is just a quantum leap ahead and I really like the idea of a refined car that has the handling and speed of the S4. It is almost as fast as an M3 out of the box, and only one step below in the handling/braking department, but way more refined.

It makes a great car to share with my girlfriend.


Originally posted by lame-ocarguy
Talking numbers cannot explain the difference in the two cars. I drove them both in the past few months as I was searching for a car. Drive them both. My bet - You'll take the S4 - I did.

If you REALLY need to have the fastest car ever, go ahead and throw some APR staged upgrades. You'll be smoking the STi's and still save mucho deneiro.

After I bought mine, I realized I didn't need to be the fastest car on the street...not when I can spend less and ride in luxury. A friend of mine bought an STi. He likes it, his girlfriend wanted a ride in mine though...so, you be the judge.

Peace,
lame-o
2000 S4 owner

[lame-ocarguy]

Congrats on the new car! Have fun!

[max_boost]

Too old? You are only 25!?:dunno:

Anyway, congrats on another new ride! :bigpimp:

[E36M3]

hah. 26, so maybe not THAT old


Originally posted by max_boost
Too old? You are only 25!?:dunno:

Anyway, congrats on another new ride! :bigpimp:

[Seanith]

Lets see pics! :D
I can't wait till the day I have to make such a choice of what car to buy :bigpimp:

[CKY]

good for you, and have fun driving that car!!

[FiveFreshFish]

Originally posted by E36M3
I went with the S4, and really enjoy it. To be honest, I can't believe it was even a contest.. I am really way too conservative for a Subaru (or maybe too old).

Good choice. I faced the same decision in two years ago when the WRX was just introduced.

Can't beat the Audi interior.

[turboMiata]

Originally posted by lame-ocarguy
his girlfriend wanted a ride in mine though...so, you be the judge.




Originally posted by E36M3

It makes a great car to share with my girlfriend.




:D Yes, chix dig the Alcantara interior! Congrats on your buy. But keep a close watch on the bypass valves, tbb and f-pipe.

cheers!

turbomiata
B5 Nogaro S4 owner

[polishdupa]

i have a 2000 audi s4 and i spank every sti that tries. stock the sti is better but a few mods on the s4 and you have 400plus hp at the wheels

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by polishdupa
i have a 2000 audi s4 and i spank every sti that tries. stock the sti is better but a few mods on the s4 and you have 400plus hp at the wheels You give Polacks a bad name.

[pinoyhero]

I vote STi

[JfuckinC]

Originally posted by pinoyhero
I vote STi

you vote over 4 years to late homeslice

[Redlyne_mr2]

haha wow old ass thread.

[Sorath]

coming from an sti owner, get an s4, u`ll have more fun lol

[Tuner1]

Originally posted by polishdupa
i have a 2000 audi s4 and i spank every sti that tries. stock the sti is better but a few mods on the s4 and you have 400plus hp at the wheels

This isn't what happend the last time I raced a B5 S4 with my STI :nut:

It takes more than a "few mods" to make over 400 reliable WHP on pump gas.....I know because I've done it.

Both are great cars :)

Old thread :banghead:

Rob

[1997GSR]

OP: Curious as to what you chose..

[R-Audi]

Originally posted by Tuner1


This isn't what happend the last time I raced a B5 S4 with my STI :nut:

It takes more than a "few mods" to make over 400 reliable WHP on pump gas.....I know because I've done it.

Both are great cars :)

Old thread :banghead:

Rob

Old thread indeed....
But..... If the S4 had as many mods as you did... I dont think it would be the same outcome.

[asp integra]

buy the s4, and with the money you save invest in a stage 3 kit, and then u will have around 500 hp and a car that will do a sub 4 second 0-60 and around an 11-12 second 1/4 mile!

there is no way the sti could compare to a stage 3 audi s4

[nbaker00]

Originally posted by 1997GSR
OP: Curious as to what you chose..
I have read several posts where E36M3 said he had a B5 S4.
Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Good choice.. They are really nice:thumbsup:

[Tuner1]

Originally posted by R-Audi


Old thread indeed....
But..... If the S4 had as many mods as you did... I dont think it would be the same outcome.

I have $1400 worth of go-fast bits on my STI. How about we race my STI (or an '04 STi for that matter) against an B5 S4 with $1400 (retail) worth of mods :D

Guys ---- I love Audi's and I am a huge B5 S4 fan. More than five years ago Tunerworks built what was probably the first K04-powered S4 in the city as a shop car so I know what this is all about.

Both are amazing cars.

Rob

[Idratherbsidewayz]

Originally posted by polishdupa
i have a 2000 audi s4 and i spank every sti that tries. stock the sti is better but a few mods on the s4 and you have 400plus hp at the wheels



Originally posted by GTS Jeff
You give Polacks a bad name.

It's that natural Polish inferiority complex/dumb pride stemming from years of oppression. He's not really giving us a bad name, it's just sad to see.

If I had been the OP (in 2004) I would have gone with:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/86/278225062_1f84f34b9b.jpg

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by Idratherbsidewayz
It's that natural Polish inferiority complex/dumb pride stemming from years of oppression. He's not really giving us a bad name, it's just sad to see.

If I had been the OP (in 2004) I would have gone with:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/86/278225062_1f84f34b9b.jpg Sorry mang, Polska is up there on my list of places to go. I hear the chicks always have huge titbags.

[E36M3]

I did end up with the S4, still have it in fact.. nice car. The european spec one (as is the case with mine) has factory recaros and a couple other nice upgrades over the north american version.

You guys are right though, this is a really old thread.


Originally posted by nbaker00

I have read several posts where E36M3 said he had a B5 S4.
Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Good choice.. They are really nice:thumbsup:

[Idratherbsidewayz]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff
Sorry mang, Polska is up there on my list of places to go. I hear the chicks always have huge titbags.

The girls are absolutely beautiful, but they know it. A lot of partying though. If thats what you enjoy, don't miss Krakow. And if you're looking for a wife to bring back, please knock her up before so she doesn't leave you as soon as she gets citizenship. Enjoy Poland... :thumbsup:

[polishdupa]

the s4 is the the perfect sleeper. after racing an m5 the guy pulled up and said that i have the fastest a4 he has ever seen and i laugh and said yeah a4. with the s4 you have a car that has leather seat , climate control, heated seats, etc... plus with a v6 you have alot more options to pull power out of it then a 4 cylinder. and polish people have a bad name everywhere we are like newfies.... don't blame polish failures on me

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by polishdupa
don't blame polish failures on me

We're blaming YOUR failure to read the OP date. You are now in ranks with the rest of the Polish failures.

[vipstyle2]

Polish woman are hot as fawk.
My ex girl friends mom is a babe her freaking grandmother is even a gilf.
Poland is the place to be for woman.
Blonde hair big boobies ! what more can you ask for =]

[bigbadboss101]

Originally posted by polishdupa
the s4 is the the perfect sleeper. after racing an m5 the guy pulled up and said that i have the fastest a4 he has ever seen and i laugh and said yeah a4. with the s4 you have a car that has leather seat , climate control, heated seats, etc... plus with a v6 you have alot more options to pull power out of it then a 4 cylinder. and polish people have a bad name everywhere we are like newfies.... don't blame polish failures on me

Did you pick up Jordan's or Jay's S4? I was looking at both but at the time had 3 other cars so couldn't pull the deal.

[Isaiah]

Mine's going up for sale soon.

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by vipstyle2
Polish woman are hot as fawk.
My ex girl friends mom is a babe her freaking grandmother is even a gilf.
Poland is the place to be for woman.
Blonde hair big boobies ! what more can you ask for =] Pics dude, we need pics!

[herragge]

lawls at hot gilf:rofl:

[Lizard_king]

s4 classy

[R-Audi]

Originally posted by Tuner1


I have $1400 worth of go-fast bits on my STI. How about we race my STI (or an '04 STi for that matter) against an B5 S4 with $1400 (retail) worth of mods :D

Rob

Ha! I guess it changes things if we are retail vs. retail!
Although for 1400... thats Chip and full exhaust.. depending on the programming that can be as low as 12.8 @ 114!!




Link... (http://www.jhmotorsports.com/projects/)

[R-Audi]

Originally posted by Isaiah
Mine's going up for sale soon.

Im thinking of changing direction in the spring as well... Gotta be someone else who wants a well equipped Stage 3!

[bigbadboss101]

Can't beat AWD Turbo and great modability.

[polishdupa]

haha its jordon's old s4 but same story people think its an a4

[Isaiah]

Originally posted by polishdupa
haha its jordon's old s4 but same story people think its an a4
How's the car treating you so far? That's gotta be the fastest S4 in the city. I think he just did the turbo swap last year.

[R-Audi]

There is about 4 or 5 comparables in the city that I know of.....

[polishdupa]

yeah i haven't seen any s4 other then the 1992 s4 that my brother has...i'm almost getting use to the power and im looking at taking it to the drag next year to see if i can hit 11s

[R-Audi]

You will be hard pressed to hit 11's without any major changes to the car... Jordan has the programming quite agressive.

Possibly if you had a C16 +Meth program done you would be closer....and added a slew of RS4 intake parts.. which arent exactly cheap.