Run 11's for $10k ??????? [Archive] - Beyond.ca - Car Forums

90_Shelby

10-21-2002, 04:43 PM

Is it possible to build a daily driven, 4 wheel disc brake, 17" wheels, 11 second, 120mph, 500rwhp and 550rwtq for under $10,000?????????????

Yes

My buddies Stang ran 11.57@120 on slicks in his home built TT302 Stang. The engine has a freshened stock bottom end, stock cam, Edelbrock heads and intake, 2 T3 turbos from pick your part. It also has 4 wheel disc brakes, 17" wheels and is driven almost daily. After getting booted from the track yesterday for no roll cage, it made 1 dyno pull at 502 rwhp and 557rwtq. This car was built for just under $10,000.
No offense but try and do that with a Honda.:poosie:

FUCKING IMPRESSIVE............... beware this car is a sleeper :D

P.S. Hey Calagui this car pulls pretty hard on deerfoot hey? :thumbsup:

GP_DrIvEr

10-21-2002, 04:59 PM

thats impressive :hitit:

HillBilly

10-21-2002, 05:06 PM

:thumbsdow Yeah thats pretty good but its still just a POS Mustang

ninspeed

10-21-2002, 05:18 PM

buy a 1st gen talon awd with no motor for cheep.. and swap in marco from magnus motorsports 500hp 4g64/63 engine for 5000 and then some good rubber.. be in the 10's (he ran a 9.623 @ 141.99mph... ;)

rage2

10-21-2002, 05:18 PM

That mustang is very impressive IMO. I've seen it in action a few times. Excellent work!

egmike

10-21-2002, 05:50 PM

I seen that stang yesterday at the track, once he got some traction his time went from 13's to 11's :drool:

90_Shelby

10-21-2002, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Stealth R/T
:thumbsdow Yeah thats pretty good but its still just a POS Mustang

Is yours black? Weren't you trying to do a ricer flyby on this car and still got worked on Deerfoot.:poosie:

POS maybe........... but it would probably whoop your street bike

buh_buh

10-21-2002, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by 90_Shelby
No offense but try and do that with a Honda.:poosie:

uh oh. Sounds like the start of another war.

But just to add in my opinion....
I agree, that is very impressive. But not everyone is looking to go as fast as they can in a straight line.

shadowz

10-21-2002, 06:10 PM

it is possible but you must remeber what your starting block is giong to be

HillBilly

10-21-2002, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by 90_Shelby

Is yours black? Weren't you trying to do a ricer flyby on this car and still got worked on Deerfoot.:poosie:

POS maybe........... but it would probably whoop your street bike

No it wasn't me. I don't live in Alberta.

The point of my post was not to say the stang cannot do the quarter faster than most cars. The point is, a $10,000 twin turbo mustang is a street driven car that is worth $10,000. Great car for someone on a tight budget...

bksze

10-21-2002, 06:24 PM

that is pretty impressive to be able to go that fast on a $10 000 budget . . . but likewise, as many have already stated . . . it's just an opinion on what people want to do with there cars . . . i bet with another $10k you wouldn't attract the attention as a civic with $10k so it really depends on what you want to do with your car . . . go fast or look good, of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder so if you think that mustang is nice . . . then :thumbsup: some people out there will spend $10k just on a set of wheels!!!

egmike

10-21-2002, 06:36 PM

I posted the vid from yesterday

Turbo Stang (http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread.php?s=&postid=70214#post70214)

redline_13000

10-21-2002, 06:44 PM

ide like to see it go up against the black turbo supra:D

90_Shelby

10-21-2002, 07:57 PM

The car isn't just set up to go in a straight line. Hence the bigger discs in the front and discs in the back. He didn't have much time this year, but he was actually planning on autocrossing it aswell. The car was definetely not set up strictly for drag racing. It was setup as an all around car on a budget.

As for the black Supra......... Mau woould definetly whoop this car, but then again friends aren't supposed to race friends.;)

We were filming the car from beside the staging lanes and on the first to second shift the front left tire was coming off the ground about an inch.:hitit:

finboy

10-21-2002, 08:11 PM

WOA.

damn boost is cool

buh_buh

10-21-2002, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by 90_Shelby
but then again friends aren't supposed to race friends.;)

since when?
The only people I race ARE my friends.

RT16V

10-21-2002, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by ninspeed
buy a 1st gen talon awd with no motor for cheep.. and swap in marco from magnus motorsports 500hp 4g64/63 engine for 5000 and then some good rubber.. be in the 10's (he ran a 9.623 @ 141.99mph... ;)

Does that cheap car with no engine come with a transmission? Rear diff, centre diff, intercooler, fuel system, exhaust system? Does then maguns engine come with a turbo? Maybe it does, I don't know......

Hollywood

10-21-2002, 08:49 PM

Ya it's too bad all the fun cars get kicked out of racecity. Once you get into those low 11's they demand so much to stay.

lammer

10-21-2002, 09:30 PM

holy crud tahts a fast car for a small budget. i like. even though its a domestic. I think domestics are cool because they are cheap in price.

90_Shelby

10-21-2002, 09:32 PM

To clarify the Stang $10,000 canadian TOTAL cost, including car.

If I can get a complete 500hp Talon engine for $5000 order me 7 as that is an unbelievable good deal. Is it a red tag sale by any chance?

Boost Infested

10-21-2002, 10:10 PM

jesus, 90 shelby you just have to stir shit up where ever you go!:poosie: :poosie: :poosie:

rub one out..........:poosie: :poosie: :poosie: :angel: eeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzz JR!:rofl: :rofl: :poosie:

eur0

10-21-2002, 11:04 PM

you could buy my car for a grand, buy an h22 for like 5grand max (installed) and a turbo, trust me youll be right up there with like 250 hp...thatll get you into 12's maybe 11's...these facts are just off the top of my head...the h22 and the jackson racing sc produces 270hp i beleive

gpomp

10-21-2002, 11:39 PM

Never heard of any H22 in an EF Civic...

JRSC Lude is like 200whp.

[GaGe]

10-21-2002, 11:41 PM

Wow, that's pretty impressive.

Loose

10-21-2002, 11:58 PM

GTS Jeff

10-22-2002, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by tbk49
you could buy my car for a grand, buy an h22 for like 5grand max (installed) and a turbo, trust me youll be right up there with like 250 hp...thatll get you into 12's maybe 11's...these facts are just off the top of my head...the h22 and the jackson racing sc produces 270hp i beleive what the hell are u smoking?! even i dont do that much crack!

1. your car goes for about 2-6 grand...
2. all hte parts for an h22 swap will be about 3 grand
3. the install of an h22 into an ef hatch will cost anywhere from 3-6 grand depending on whether u can find some1 who knows how to do it.
4. a jrsc is another couple geez...
5. even with all this, u will be lucky to get into the 12 second range, let alone 11.

in short, trying to fit an h22 into an ef hatch will cost tons more than 10000...and on stock suspension, u will smash the engine block into cement over every bump....and u know what it costs to upgrade suspension...hmmm.

think about it boy! 10000 to get a honda into 11s is really hard...

gpomp

10-22-2002, 12:17 AM

I forgot where I heard this from, but there are at least two ways to get a Civic into the 10's.

SR-20 motor.
Spoon engine, T66 turbocharger and NOS

Ben

10-22-2002, 01:26 AM

I think that stang is very sespectable and well done. I am so not a fan of mustangs and moreover that body style, but I can respect a well tunes and very fast car when I see one. Props!:thumbsup: :clap:

boi-alien

10-22-2002, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by gpomp
Never heard of any H22 in an EF Civic....

heh i have :D doable if u have the $$$$

shadowz

10-22-2002, 01:50 AM

The H22 in a EF has been done, theres a turbo h22 ef in ontario it has a fiberglass front end, needing to cut everything out, the rad support must be removed and such, 3 grand will not cover all the parts for the swap unless they are stolen, and no a spoon engine will not get your car into the 10 second range, the spoon motor has 210hp, it is a high rev motor and is very good for road course, not really for drag, but definitly not 10s, maybe high to mid 14s from personal experience driving a EK with spoon motor.
Not trying to start anything just trying to clear things up.

Ralliart

10-22-2002, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by 90_Shelby
To clarify the Stang $10,000 canadian TOTAL cost, including car.

If I can get a complete 500hp Talon engine for $5000 order me 7 as that is an unbelievable good deal. Is it a red tag sale by any chance?

I can build you a talon that runs 11.57 on street tires :thumbsup: for $10,000 including the car if you really want :poosie: 90_shelby

The mustang would eat you alive on deerfoot, but you could drive the talon in winter :dunno:

90_Shelby

10-22-2002, 10:11 AM

Let me know how much you have into yours if you run the number Ralliart. What kind of mph do you figure?

Wasn't your old civic an H22A, similar to what they are describing?

Ralliart

10-22-2002, 10:15 AM

I never said my car :nut: but an older 91 talon low mph I figure

Speed_RaSiR

10-22-2002, 12:50 PM

No offense but try and do that with a Honda.:poosie:

P.S. Hey Calagui this car pulls pretty hard on deerfoot hey? :thumbsup: [/B]

Nice drag setup, but how well can it handle corners?

5.9 R/T

10-22-2002, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by Speed_RaSiR

Nice drag setup, but how well can it handle corners?

Typical ricer. You can't beat em in a straight line so then you try and beat em in the corners.

Speed_RaSiR

10-22-2002, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by 5.9 R/T

Typical ricer. You can't beat em in a straight line so then you try and beat em in the corners.

Rice my ass, Thats a pretty ignorant comment, being fast isnt all about driving in a straight line...

5.9 R/T

10-22-2002, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by Speed_RaSiR

Rice my ass, Thats a pretty ignorant comment, being fast isnt all about driving in a straight line...

So your calling an 11 second mustang slow? Now who's the one being ignorant?

Speed_RaSiR

10-22-2002, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by 5.9 R/T

So your calling an 11 second mustang slow? Now who's the one being ignorant?

I never once said it was slow, I even commented him on his drag setup.

90_Shelby

10-22-2002, 03:18 PM

IT'S NOT A DRAG SETUP. He was planning on autocrossing it as well, hence the big breaks, 17" wheels, and G force TA's. I even specifically stated this previously in the thread. Calling this car a drag car is ignorant, as you obviously don't understand what a car setup for drag racing is like. This car does not have 90/10's, 4 cylinder springs, or sway bars removed. IT IS NOT A DRAG CAR.

eur0

10-22-2002, 03:37 PM

haha good old flaming, I was just quoting my own opinion...it was quite uneducated but im just going on what ive seen...hell i saw a 90 Si in the bargain finder yestruday for 800 with a crappy motor, so lets say it costs another 6 grand to get a complete h22 into your little civic thats another 3 grand to build a custom turbo, im pretty sure youll be in those high numbers with that setup...

or get a gsr swap and a jr sc or homemade turbo...

all im saying is it can be done, but my efforts are useless :) this is all IMO!

theres a few civics/crx's in the bargain finder for cheap like no more than 1200, most of em just need body/engine work...

I was looking at an 89 crx today but the guy sold it when I called him back with an offer (he wanted 700 i offered 500)..body was good just had no head on the engine

300rwhp

10-22-2002, 03:40 PM

90_ shelby: IF iI were you I would stop trying at this point. lots of the people on this forum are closed minded retards that cant reconize a nice car when they see it. just because it has a mustang emblem it cant handle.... there are alot of mustangs that are used purposely for road racing and they are great at it. if this mustang has 17 wheels and good tires I bet it can outhandle a whole bunch of these front wheel drive ricers. and about it vs. the supra..... that combination is ignorant . peple should be prasing the hell out of this mustang for running close (damn close) to a car that is that expensive when it is STOCK!! now how much money has he spent on it????Face it boys any car can go fast, just with some cars you dont have to change the whole car to do it. To every one that said that it might be fast but it is still ugly, you need to get your priorities right. let me guess no neon . no big spoiler, no "body kit" no nice huh? he didnt yeven claim it looked nice, but i think it does. put a couple more grand into paint and some other appearence aspects and why won't it look nice? oh yea I forgot its still a mustang and none of those look good.

GTS Jeff

10-22-2002, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by shadowz
...and no a spoon engine will not get your car into the 10 second range, the spoon motor has 210hp, it is a high rev motor and is very good for road course, not really for drag, but definitly not 10s, maybe high to mid 14s from personal experience driving a EK with spoon motor.
Not trying to start anything just trying to clear things up. are u sure man? they did it in FnF!!

rage2

10-22-2002, 04:34 PM

There's one critical detail about the Mustang that's been left out... the thing runs on PUMP GAS. Meaning it's got kick ass power whenever, wherever. This is what makes the car so impressive.

Every other car mentioned in this thread will require special high octane fuel to run 11's. Talon, maybe not, but it's all won at the launch, and you're not on a drag strip daily, so it'd get killed on the road.

There's no replacement for displacement :D.

90_Shelby

10-22-2002, 07:17 PM

300rwhp and Rage:
Thank you for the real world comments and for giving this car the respect it deserves. I guess I forgot to mention it runs on pump gas, all the time.:poosie: :D

finboy

10-22-2002, 09:12 PM

i was over at shannon's tonight (mechanic at davenport racing). he is putting a TT set up on his LS1 this year :poosie: :eek: :burnout:

LancerShelby

10-22-2002, 09:13 PM

Oh how I love wars between people with big keyboard egos!!

shadowz

10-23-2002, 02:51 AM

Originally posted by Jeff TYPE R
are u sure man? they did it in FnF!!

Oh yes and lets get a couple SR20s before race wars and drop them into our civic and integras:D

Ralliart

10-23-2002, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by LancerShelby
Oh how I love wars between people with big keyboard egos!!

:poosie: Dont you have one :guns:

300rwhp

10-23-2002, 02:37 PM

my keyboard ego got away from me there on my last post. did't mean for it to come out like im a complete dick.

HillBilly

10-30-2002, 06:25 PM

I think this thread has served its purpose. Enraging the blood of ricers and the musclecar fans. Congrats..:thumbsup:

ninspeed

10-30-2002, 06:45 PM

last year i got a ride in a 95-98 mustang thats was red (he helped run the solo2 events last year at race city).. holy crap its fast, he did a lot of drifting in it, but damm fast, and fun... (i think it was na though)... plus i drive z06's quite often not super far, but i get where i am going a little quick (exept today becuase the roads still suck)

drox

10-30-2002, 08:20 PM

Oh yes and lets get a couple SR20s before race wars and drop them into our civic and integrasHey man.. dont diss on the sr20. Ive seen that motor in so many different makes of cars it isnt even funny (mercedez, nissan, mazda, honda (hehe!) to list a few...).

choweyt3t4

10-30-2002, 08:42 PM

yo is it a red one???i think ive seen this thing in action before any ways as the saying goes theres no replacement for displacement.i was actually thinking of getting a mustang for a little project car to run down the quarter.the only thing that turns me off about stangs is that about a billion were made and it seems the prerequisite to own one is a mullet:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

90_Shelby

10-30-2002, 08:55 PM

If you want a "CAMARO" you need a mullet not a Mustang:banghead: :D
Yeah it's red.

Boost Infested

10-30-2002, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by choweyt3t4
yo is it a red one???i think ive seen this thing in action before any ways as the saying goes theres no replacement for displacement.i was actually thinking of getting a mustang for a little project car to run down the quarter.the only thing that turns me off about stangs is that about a billion were made and it seems the prerequisite to own one is a mullet:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

chowey, we actually raced b4, last summer on macleod, it was a 7 cars race....

red TT mustang, black daytona, blue daytona, vs your prelude, shadowz orange prelude, white talon, civic hb.... remember:poosie: :D :burnout:

Davan

10-31-2002, 10:28 AM

How'd I miss this whole thread until now? :dunno:

Anyways, I've gota 1979 5.0 Mustang parked at home.... I really REALLY should start putting some money into it :banghead:

choweyt3t4

10-31-2002, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by Boost Infested

chowey, we actually raced b4, last summer on macleod, it was a 7 cars race....

red TT mustang, black daytona, blue daytona, vs your prelude, shadowz orange prelude, white talon, civic hb.... remember:poosie: :D :burnout: yeah i remember got to say you guys were fast and that stang was a terror but that was when my car was n/a if i get my car back together with the turbo on and some tunning we should race i want a rematch,but as for stangs im still not willing to grow a mullet:rofl:

shadowz

10-31-2002, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by Boost Infested

chowey, we actually raced b4, last summer on macleod, it was a 7 cars race....

red TT mustang, black daytona, blue daytona, vs your prelude, shadowz orange prelude, white talon, civic hb.... remember:poosie: :D :burnout:

Oh yes having all these Daytonas just blow past us PSSSHH but I guess we gotta wait till the track opens next year and see how we can keep up