PDA

View Full Version : Turbocharging an integra



jerzboy
06-22-2004, 06:28 PM
Hi all,

i am fairly new to the honda world, but have been modifying dsm's for about 6 years. My new project car is a 91 integra that i'm looking to turbocharge.

As i see it this is what i need:

Turbo (duh)
Intercooler
Custom piping
Custom Manifold
BOV
Injectors
Fuel Pump
S-AFC
Custom Exhaust

Do i need anything else?
Does anyone make a custom manifold for the B18A to a Mitsu turbo?
Has anyone had fueling problems with these motors?
Does the rest of the drivetrain hold up?
Should i consider a VTEC head swap?

any help would be appreciated.

legendboy
06-22-2004, 07:56 PM
Don't bother with an safc. Grab an obd1 ecu, a harness and run uberdata. I can make you a basic manifold and downpipe for a mitsu turbo $650

Similar to this



http://www.telusplanet.net/public/legend88/Pat/MVC-003X.JPG

cujo_cjc
06-22-2004, 08:15 PM
i was thinking about custom turboing my integra since ppl say its only around 2-3g

but i have no clue where to start :nut:

Weapon_R
06-22-2004, 08:21 PM
The AFC/injector setup is not easy to set up, nor very reliable. Uberdata is free, lots of guys here will help you out, and you'd end up spending about the same amount of dollars for a very good system - superior to the afc/injector setup.

Btw - No one knows his turbo tegs like Legendboy - check out his manifolds, they are far superior and way cheaper to any store bought brands i've seen.

As for an LS/Vtec turbo setup, unless you have 6k to do it, you won't get a reliable setup IMO. The ls/vtec is not cheap, and to reliably turbo it is a lot more expensive than talking to legendboy and the other guys around here on a custom setup.

b16Ateg
06-22-2004, 08:35 PM
well here is a good starter if you are going to go turbo for a integra.. its a good read..
http://www.beesandgoats.com/boostfaq/g2icturbo.html

WGR4Pussies
06-22-2004, 09:14 PM
www.homemadeturbo.com
injector hack is for fags:thumbsup:

jaylo
06-22-2004, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by legendboy
Don't bother with an safc. Grab an obd1 ecu, a harness and run uberdata. I can make you a basic manifold and downpipe for a mitsu turbo $650



Do you warranty your manifold and downpipe by any chance? I'm thinking of going in this route for a TD05 18G. Very nice manifold, is it stainless steel?

legendboy
06-23-2004, 08:28 AM
Yes my manifolds won't crack. No you don't get stainless for $650 :)

pr0
06-23-2004, 09:02 AM
Get a Vortech FMU and check here: http://www.cse.uconn.edu/~yelevich/turbo/turbo.html

All the info you need.

bighead2267
06-23-2004, 11:07 AM
LegendBoy. what kinda material made that manifold then since u say it's not stainless steel.

legendboy
06-23-2004, 11:57 AM
cast mild steel 1/4" thick. i can do 304 & 316 ss as well in either 1/4" or 1/8" thick

all my flanges are cold rolled mild steel, laser cut or cnc depending on where i get it

WGR4Pussies
06-23-2004, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by pr0
Get a Vortech FMU and check here: http://www.cse.uconn.edu/~yelevich/turbo/turbo.html

All the info you need.

FMU? thats the stupidest idea I've ever heard.

legendboy
06-23-2004, 01:42 PM
ya that was a pretty retarded post lol

civicluva
06-23-2004, 08:15 PM
why isn't it a good idea? I use a sfmu in my Civic.:dunno:

rage2
06-23-2004, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by civicluva
why isn't it a good idea? I use a sfmu in my Civic.:dunno:
An FMU is a hack, it won't give you a perfect Air Fuel Ratio. Not to mention you have zero control of timing with an FMU (it's just a fuel control device). Bad things happen when you run too rich or too lean, not to mention a loss in power.

WGR4Pussies
06-24-2004, 01:47 AM
i think there was already a discussion about FMUss on here. FMUs are for posers, people who buy kits, and cars that don't have any other means of altering the fuel tables/injector sizes.

most people make the mistake of not using proper fuel management, such as a FMU, Rage pretty much covered all the problems with FMUs.

WGR4Pussies
06-24-2004, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by civicluva
why isn't it a good idea? I use a sfmu in my Civic.:dunno:
what year civic? what motor?

legendboy
06-24-2004, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by WGR4Pussies

what year civic? what motor?

meh its probably just something he heard on Tuner Transformation :rofl:

pr0
06-24-2004, 10:40 AM
:( I see... hes got a b16a I think. Anyway a buddy of mine suggested the sfmu, so far he hasn't had any problems but bigger injectors would be a +.

legendboy
06-24-2004, 10:52 AM
He obviously isn't making much power then :)

Toms-Celica
06-24-2004, 11:20 AM
Hey legend,

I am curious where you got your tubing made up for your FMIC. Did you do it yourself? :) Did you make that Intercooler?

legendboy
06-24-2004, 11:27 AM
Yes i fabricate everything

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/thanem/install/Picture%20020.jpg

You can get ubends anywhere. Guyon, Mopac, Grand Prix. Any muffler supply shop.

sabad66
06-24-2004, 11:36 AM
alright guys this a noob question, i know theres gonna be ppl laughing but since theres that huge intercooler, where does the radiator go? i dont see one anywhere in that.

redline
06-24-2004, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by legendboy
He obviously isn't making much power then :)

that is about as bad as some of the other comments in this thread, people have run 10s on a FMU and hacks, it can work , just not well in the long run and i am living proof of that...

but if people want to be dumb and run hacks then :whocares:

Toms-Celica
06-24-2004, 02:30 PM
Legend: You got any IC core left?

WGR4Pussies
06-24-2004, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by sabad66
alright guys this a noob question, i know theres gonna be ppl laughing but since theres that huge intercooler, where does the radiator go? i dont see one anywhere in that.

its just removed so you an get get a good look at his RaM HOrN, lol, the rad sits in its stock location.

WGR4Pussies
06-24-2004, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by redline


that is about as bad as some of the other comments in this thread, people have run 10s on a FMU and hacks, it can work , just not well in the long run and i am living proof of that...

but if people want to be dumb and run hacks then :whocares:

people have run 10 seconds with this, people have run 10 seconds with that, Bisi ran 9 seconds with webers and a 1.5 litre NA honda motor (he has sinse changed to a SOHC accord F series motor) any thing is possible. A FMU just cant do what a standalone can do.

WGR4Pussies
06-24-2004, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by pr0
:( I see... hes got a b16a I think. Anyway a buddy of mine suggested the sfmu, so far he hasn't had any problems but bigger injectors would be a +.

you can't run bigger injectors with just a FMU, you need something to scale them back at idle and vac situations.

finboy
06-24-2004, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by WGR4Pussies
FMUs are for posers

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

fmu's might not be the greatest method for fuel managment but they do the job in a pinch.

standalone's aren't cheap (except megasquirt, but i still want to read up more on that) and custom callibrations aren't available for every car, so an fmu is sometimes a quick fix. i picked up my adj. fuel pressure regulator and fmu for $150, much cheaper than a standalone system, it will hold me until i can afford a decent system next year, and with a someone who knows how to tune a car (for example dynomotive) it won't blow up.

legendboy
06-25-2004, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by Toms-Celica
Legend: You got any IC core left?

yo i have 3 but they are all spoken for!

import_azn
06-25-2004, 08:51 AM
what if u want to turbo a car that is not going to be used for racing that much and more as a daily driven car?

legendboy
06-25-2004, 09:58 AM
I think 99% of turbo cars are for daily drivers........