No more Manual Trannys for BMW?

[rage2]

http://www.imakenews.com/autospies/e_article000103391.cfm

Looks like it's gonna be SMG only very soon.

[DSM Power]

What are they smoking ??! :banghead:

[5gluder]

I heard that with the paddle shifters, it takes .80/s to shift. They found it to shift faster with the paddles when compared to the 6-speed.

[rage2]

Auto/SMG/Sequentials are faster on a roadcourse over many laps. Consistency! :D

[rage2]

Originally posted by 5gluder
I heard that with the paddle shifters, it takes .80/s to shift. They found it to shift faster with the paddles when compared to the 6-speed.

Yep, it's like a perfect power shift every time!

[boi-alien]

in terms of performance i guess this is definitely a step in the right direction. it'll definitely give you much more consistent laptimes and whatnot. but for some i guess it takes away from the fun to drive factor.

[Ferio_vti]

Yah, heard about the SMG. Faster than paddle or sport shift or current auto setups.

[4wheeldrift]

Originally posted by crxboi
in terms of performance i guess this is definitely a step in the right direction. it'll definitely give you much more consistent laptimes and whatnot. but for some i guess it takes away from the fun to drive factor.

And transmission longevity. The synchros are going to get a good work out.

[rage2]

Originally posted by 4wheeldrift
And transmission longevity. The synchros are going to get a good work out.

Only in the higher S modes where the tranny "power shifts". In the lower S modes and the auto modes, the shifts are engaged a little bit before the proper rev speed, then clutch engages after that. For downshifts, every downshift is perfectly rev matched, minimizing both clutch and synchro wear.

Longevity should be the same unless you drive in S6 in day to day driving :D.

[5gluder]

Originally posted by 4wheeldrift


And transmission longevity. The synchros are going to get a good work out.

I was thinking the same, wonder how durabale these trannies are. They are using these paddles on the M sieries, i know BMW was have problems with the new M3 engines. I would not buy the first batch of models that come with the paddles, last thing i want to do is constantly take my car in to a dealership that offers poor service.

[4wheeldrift]

Originally posted by rage2

Longevity should be the same unless you drive in S6 in day to day driving :D.
You mean everybody doesn't do that? :burnout: :D

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by 5gluder


I was thinking the same, wonder how durabale these trannies are. They are using these paddles on the M sieries, i know BMW was have problems with the new M3 engines. I would not buy the first batch of models that come with the paddles, last thing i want to do is constantly take my car in to a dealership that offers poor service. smg has been around for ages, and smg2 has been in europe for a few years now too. i think bmw has had enuff time to work out the kinks

[4wheeldrift]

Originally posted by Jeff TYPE R
smg has been around for ages, and smg2 has been in europe for a few years now too. i think bmw has had enuff time to work out the kinks

Just like they had lots of time to work out the kinks in the motor in the M3 eh? :confused:

[max_boost]

Someone needs to take me for a ride in a M3 with the SMG tranny so I can understand how this technology works

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by 4wheeldrift


Just like they had lots of time to work out the kinks in the motor in the M3 eh? :confused: meh, that motor is screwed. its sort of hard to make a 3.2 with such high output reliable.

[rage2]

Originally posted by max_boost
Someone needs to take me for a ride in a M3 with the SMG tranny so I can understand how this technology works

Play some GT3. That's how it works. Click right to upshift, click left to downshift :D.

[got M]

FUKC DAT!!!
I want my clutch, and i want to push it too.
I heard that the cluth engages via hydro's is that true??


here is where technolgy comes in and rapes us of what we are used to. 10 years from now ppl driveing with sticks will be looked upon the same way as people that drive low output high displacment now. OH Well

[lilboykorea]

Originally posted by max_boost
Someone needs to take me for a ride in a M3 with the SMG tranny so I can understand how this technology works
friend has one..man its so cool...
the smg version m3 is .5 seconds faster than the manual at 0-60? ive just heard this from someone...
i can believe it...

[gpomp]

Originally posted by lilboykorea

friend has one..man its so cool...
the smg version m3 is .5 seconds faster than the manual at 0-60? ive just heard this from someone...
i can believe it...

I thought the manual was faster? Better launches and powershifting, etc...

BTW, arn't you like 16? How does your friend have an M3 already? (assuming he is also 16)

[lilboykorea]

:thumbsup: how du know i was 16?
my friend is 24

[lilboykorea]

hes a :bigpimp: hard for calgarian 24 year old to drive such nice car... he also has another hot ass import

[rage2]

Originally posted by gpomp
I thought the manual was faster? Better launches and powershifting, etc...

MT is faster than SMG in a drag race from a stop (SMG's can't launch except in europe with Launch Control). SMG in S6 mode will shift faster than MT.

[RiceCake]

Well seems as though they are going in the right direction, this should lead to less driver error and bad shifting.. :)

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by rage2


MT is faster than SMG in a drag race from a stop (SMG's can't launch except in europe with Launch Control). SMG in S6 mode will shift faster than MT. the new smgs here wont have that?

[lilboykorea]

oh right...btw my friend has european ecu, so im not sure if he can control the launch speed but he told me the launch speed thing is now same as the european spec...and so meaning he can launch faster