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Ekliptix
10-26-2002, 05:06 PM
on a stock
-98 240SX
-latest gen turbo MR2
-latest gen turbo MR2 w/ BPU's
-Talon Tsi
-93 Teg GSR
-300ZX TT
-Cyclone & Typhoon


Thanks.

T5_X
10-26-2002, 05:43 PM
syclone, ~13.8 sec, typhoon, 14 sec

check this websit: http://www.car-stats.com/stats/search/choosemake.aspx

2K255HP
10-26-2002, 08:02 PM
Just what i've seen of the nissans
the 300zx tt's should usually run consistant low 14's high 13's
and a stock 240sx should be around high 15 low 16's

finboy
10-26-2002, 08:35 PM
SYclones and tyhoons are sweet.

with a few cheap mods both can be deep into 13's.

awd too.

Ekliptix
10-26-2002, 08:52 PM
And impossible to find for sale too. Kenne Bell:drool: :drool: :drool:

finboy
10-26-2002, 08:58 PM
there is one for sale in town. black/black.

but i have only seen it once, and that was in august.

redline_13000
10-26-2002, 10:35 PM
shit..i have the 4.3 liter in my jimmy..i wonder if the turbo off the typhoon would fit:drool:

2000impreza
10-26-2002, 10:40 PM
i seen a typhoon run a 14 flat @ race city. its pretty fast.

T5_X
10-26-2002, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by redline_13000
shit..i have the 4.3 liter in my jimmy..i wonder if the turbo off the typhoon would fit:drool:

No, the 4.3 at that time was the TBI one. The turbo off of the GN was adapted onto that 4.3 with an upgraded intercooler.
AWD was off of a fullsize safari van.
4speed auto tranny was pulled out of the vette of the time.

Hollywood
10-27-2002, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by 2K255HP
Just what i've seen of the nissans
the 300zx tt's should usually run consistant low 14's high 13's
and a stock 240sx should be around high 15 low 16's

In calgary's altitude? Stock 95-98 240s do like mid 16's to low 17's. It's pretty hard to bust your stock 250 into 15's.

95TsiAWD
10-27-2002, 12:49 PM
Stock Talon Tsi AWD should run high 14s with a good driver
FWD would probably be around 15.5
I noticed no difference in ETs between Racecity and SIR so I don't think the elevation change matters squat with a turbo-charged car

Joe Malms
10-27-2002, 04:22 PM
Yes it does!
it matters a whole lot!
maybe you ran at racecity on a good day and the elevation was relatively low

95TsiAWD
10-27-2002, 04:44 PM
can you back that up by saying you've ran at another track and can compare times? I've raced there 3 times this year. Various states of tune each time and the ETs were within a tenth of what I'd run at SIR (sometimes better sometimes worse) at that level of tune. I did notice traction was a little tougher to get at this track since it was cold and late in the year but MPH was exactly where it should have been.
I think the elevation is what a lot of people use as an excuse for piss poor driving and tuning. This probably doesn't apply to NA cars but turbo cars should run the same here as they would in Saskatchewan. I don't doubt that there's a difference between here and Colorado or here and southern California but those are big elevation changes, its only about a 1300 foot difference between here and SIR and I don't think that matters enough.

Davetronz
10-27-2002, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by Joe Malms
Yes it does!
it matters a whole lot!
maybe you ran at racecity on a good day and the elevation was relatively low
I didnt realize that elevation could change here in Calgary. We must be one of those new trial "elevator" type cities... Some dude flips a switch and we go up up up and away... :rolleyes:

95TsiAWD
10-27-2002, 04:54 PM
I'd say less than 50%. Probably closer to 15-20% if that. Atmospheric conditions are pretty much like anything else in drag racing. You can tune around them if you need to and run the same times. Drag racing is 80% tuning and driving and 20% parts. Too many people slap together a setup and can't run fast with it, then the excuse book comes out.

Hollywood
10-27-2002, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by szw
Elevation still matters on a turbo car...just not as much as it does on a NA car. Estimates are that turbos are affected about 50% as much as N/A cars are...but it is very hard to generalize a ballpark figure.

For sure it does.

theken
10-27-2002, 07:42 PM
typhoon's at sealevel run 12.8 and the syclone runs 12.4 so up here add a second to those times. You can stick the typhoon turbo on a 4.3 you just need to lower the compression in the engine.

95TsiAWD
10-27-2002, 09:06 PM
sea level to up here maybe a .5s diff. if that. Saskatoon to calgary, like I said, no difference. But then I could run the advertised stock time for my car back in Sask. (stock) so that leads me back to altitude having very little effect on turbo-charged cards.

gpomp
10-27-2002, 09:35 PM
I remember hearing rage2 say that turbo cars are affected more...

95TsiAWD
10-27-2002, 09:39 PM
:bullshit:

T5_X
10-27-2002, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by theken
typhoon's at sealevel run 12.8 and the syclone runs 12.4 so up here add a second to those times. You can stick the typhoon turbo on a 4.3 you just need to lower the compression in the engine.

LOL, not a chance! Where are you getting your info? go to www.syty.org without a doubt best 4.3T GM site.

finboy
10-27-2002, 10:54 PM
syty.net too.

realisticly sy's can hit low 13's, ty's mid. minor tuning, timing, etc.

syty.net doesn't really like me any more though ;)

Boost Infested
10-27-2002, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by gpomp
I remember hearing rage2 say that turbo cars are affected more...

i dont think so......:bullshit: affect more on n/a car... not that much for forced induction cars

drox
10-27-2002, 11:30 PM
I think the elevation is what a lot of people use as an excuse for piss poor driving and tuningActually it affects turbo cars quite a bit. The dinky stock turbo on a 2nd gen rx7 is good for ~14psi at lower elevations. Up here you can squeeze about 16-17psi out of one. Granted, its still hurting the turbo to make that much power off it, but there is a noticable difference between the two (on a rotary that little bit of boost is A LOT of power).

2K255HP
10-28-2002, 12:12 AM
Actually you are right on that... =)
but not in calgary altitude
i've just seen some numbers posted on some forums
but yes they are well i usually see mid 16's high 16's

:)


Originally posted by Hollywood (2)


In calgary's altitude? Stock 95-98 240s do like mid 16's to low 17's. It's pretty hard to bust your stock 250 into 15's.

T5_X
10-28-2002, 12:14 AM
From what I've seen, the syclone has been reported of running high 13s stock, low 14s for typhoon. However, minor mods can get them into low 12s at sea level. this is on street tires.

here's a couple reviews:
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/studebaker/135/typhoontest/gmctyphoon.html
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/studebaker/135/syclonetest/Syclone.html

there are ppl who will disagree with me, but the 00+ lightning is consistently the quickest production truck.

As for converting a newer CMFI 4door jimmy to a typhoon? Its a HELL of a lot more than just sticking a turbo on. That's a project that's easily way upwards of 10gs, plus you'd pretty much need a donor sy/ty, and hacking one up is a crime. You'd have way better and more reliable results for cheaper adding an existing s/c kit or a 350 swap. :)

Don't know a hell of a lot about the GMs though, so ask on syty.net if you're really interested, good site but I think they get sour at new ppl easily, so use the search button!!

finboy
10-28-2002, 12:31 AM
and don't suggest putting their drivetrain into a 944, or putting a turbo ls1 into a ty with a wrecked engine.

thats why i am unofficially banned :D