How come in canada we dont get the impreza GT turbo?

[Hollywood]

As it says, not much of a subaru guy so just wondering. It looks like a nice car.

[hjr]

this question can be posed regarding many many cars.

[EK 2.0]

it usually boils down to 4 things...

Emissions, DOT Approval (ie frontal crash standards, side impact standards) , Car Makers not seeing the potential and/or Lack of Support (ie Fuel Octanes and what have you)...Huge Examples are the EVO, and lots of the Euro Diesels...

[Hollywood]

I realize the reasons why we do not get certain cars.


But we are getting the evo and we did get the srt-4.....just a year later, so I was wondering if it is the same deal, that's all, not to mention we do have the STi, which has more power thus more constrained to the limits of emissions and octane, etc..

[Hollywood]

And for the record canada does not follow or use DOT approvals, thats a US thing.

[BigMass]

I want the STI Type R. Arent there like 354 different versions of the WRX or something silly like that in Japan? But yeah. The Type R would be amazing

[benyl]

I didn't know there was a type R...

I thought the coolest STi was the Spec C.

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by Hollywood
And for the record canada does not follow or use DOT approvals, thats a US thing.


well by DOT I mean whatever Canada's Transportation Dept is Hollywood...sorry I wasnt clear

[hjr]

Originally posted by CycloneAWD



well by DOT I mean whatever Canada's Transportation Dept is Hollywood...sorry I wasnt clear strangly enough its called transport canada. haha

[CRXguy]

Originally posted by benyl
I didn't know there was a type R...



http://www.iwoc.co.uk/jpstir.html

:drool: :drool:

[2000impreza]

iirc subaru stopped producing the impreza GT back in 2000. the reason why we didn't get the impreza GT is the same reason why we didn't get the any of the older style wrx, sti, sti type-r, sti type-ra, s201, rb5.....etc here. subaru did not even discover there was a market for turbo cars until mid 2001 when they released the GD style wrx here in north america.

[Forcefed]

:eek: :eek: Type R suba :thumbsup:

[WGR4Pussies]

We didn't get the evo cause the FMIC doesn't comply with transport canadas regluations or something, thats probly the same for a bunch of other cars.

[bart]

ya. emissions and the stupid crash stanards, mainly because canadian drivers are the worst in the world, dont you know they get their drivers license from a cereal box? :dunno:

so they need bumpers and real safe cars, even though they have all these one way streets, super wide lanes, etc. :nut:

oh well, what can you do. canada is a communist country, people just dont realize it.

[heavyD]

I think the new legacy looks light years better than any impreza and in top-line trim comes with the 2.5L turbo (detuned to 250hp).

[Hollywood]

Originally posted by heavyD
I think the new legacy looks light years better than any impreza and in top-line trim comes with the 2.5L turbo (detuned to 250hp).

Ya me too.

[benyl]

Yeah, the Legacy GT was tearing at my heart... but I kept reading that the internals were different than the STi, etc... It isn't detuned... The forester might be detuned as compared to the Legacy, but you aren't getting the STi motor in the GT. If the GT sells well enough, I wonder if they are going to bring the Legacy STi over? hehe I would trade my STi in for that!

[2000impreza]

the internals should be the same. i bet the only difference is in cam specs. power difference is mostly from different turbo setups.

[Hollywood]

Originally posted by CycloneAWD



well by DOT I mean whatever Canada's Transportation Dept is Hollywood...sorry I wasnt clear

Gotta troll the trolls yo!

hahahaha, just bugging you man.


Originally posted by 2000impreza
the internals should be the same. i bet the only difference is in cam specs. power difference is mostly from different turbo setups.

And ecu.

Can you subaru guys find out about the engine details? I am curious now.

[bighead2267]

i'm reallly looking into the Legacy. i'm still thinking either the Legacy or the IS and supercharged it.........more info about the legacy will be cool

[That.Guy.S30]

Originally posted by CRXguy


http://www.iwoc.co.uk/jpstir.html

:drool: :drool:

naw man, the legacy STi owns them all!!!

[Hollywood]

Well I seen a bill board today with the 250hp legacy, here in town. But subaru.ca does not show it?

[That.Guy.S30]

Originally posted by Hollywood
Well I seen a bill board today with the 250hp legacy, here in town. But subaru.ca does not show it?

its becuase subaru canada does not get off their lazy asses to update the website. i think there is a miniwebsite up. its called http://www.subarulegacy.ca/

[heavyD]

How about the Legacy GT Spec B.

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/roadtests/0306scc_legacy/

[2000impreza]

spec sheet:
http://vocuspr.vocus.com/VocusPR30/Temp/{376b1763-ee85-4879-808e-b8b6afe94aa3}/2005%20Legacy%202.5%20GT%20Specs.pdf

there isn't a whole lot of info out on the turbo legacy yet. i did do a bit of research on nasioc.com and a few other subaru forums. from what i gather the motor in the legacy is pretty much same as the 2.5STI and forester turbo with minor differences in ecu, intake manifold, and turbo setup. if you look at the spec sheet it confirms this with same bore, stroke, and compression. you can go a step further to confirm part numbers too. since the legacy turbo is relatively new, the service manuals are hard to come by for comparison purposes. difference in power mostly comes from different turbo setup and ecu tuning. the legacy uses a new ihi vf40 turbo which is different from the vf39 used by the sti and TD04 by the forester xt. there isn't much info out on this turbo so no one knows what it is capable of yet. if you guys are interested in these motors do a search on nasioc.com . lots of info there.

i'm waiting for dyno results on the legacy turbo. i suspect this car is underrated in the same way the forester xt was.

[heavyD]

Just think, WRX STi performance without all of the Impreza ugliness. Subaru may be finally onto something.:drool:

[benyl]

I drove the Outback 2.5T before buying my STi. I can tell you there is no comparison. I found that there was noticable lag that is not present on the STi.

[Hollywood]

Originally posted by benyl
I drove the Outback 2.5T before buying my STi. I can tell you there is no comparison. I found that there was noticable lag that is not present on the STi.

maybe it seems laggier and less responsive due to less psi?

[2000impreza]

the difference in lag could be from the transmission. legacy/outback still uses the 5-speed while sti has a shorter gear 6-speed.

the lag from the turbo should be minimal considering the size these factory turbos... it shouldn't make much difference.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by benyl
I drove the Outback 2.5T before buying my STi. I can tell you there is no comparison. I found that there was noticable lag that is not present on the STi.

There is no such thing as turbo lag on new model cars. They are all using small quick spooling turbos these days. The difference is the tranny gearing and vehicle weight.

[Hollywood]

Originally posted by heavyD


There is no such thing as turbo lag on new model cars. They are all using small quick spooling turbos these days. The difference is the tranny gearing and vehicle weight.

Do i detect a hint that u might be interested in this car?

[heavyD]

Originally posted by Hollywood


Do i detect a hint that u might be interested in this car?

If I was in the market (which I'm not), I would surely take one on a test drive. I'm stuck with Mitsy for a while.

[Hollywood]

Originally posted by heavyD


If I was in the market (which I'm not), I would surely take one on a test drive. I'm stuck with Mitsy for a while.

Ya the interior looks nice too.

[benyl]

Hey, I am just telling you what I experienced.. Whether it was the transmission or the turbo, it was laggy and then the sudden rush of power...

Just my 2 cents.

[CKY]

Originally posted by benyl
Hey, I am just telling you what I experienced.. Whether it was the transmission or the turbo, it was laggy and then the sudden rush of power...

Just my 2 cents.

but the outback runs on a inline 6 though, isn't it alot smoother?