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blinkme_210
08-12-2004, 06:35 PM
This was a pleasant surprise this morning. Went to the shop, and find on my board that I have to work on a RX7. Walk around into the compound, and what do I see, JDM Cabriolet Turbo RX7.
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lam-boy
08-12-2004, 06:37 PM
yo thats a nice computer!!
91VTEG
08-12-2004, 06:37 PM
wow thats pretty nice:thumbsup:
blinkme_210
08-12-2004, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by lam-boy
yo thats a nice computer!!
Lol, whoops. Forgot to click, Yes To All when asked to overwrite.
lam-boy
08-12-2004, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by blinkme_210
Lol, whoops. Forgot to click, Yes To All when asked to overwrite.
haha I figured.
nice car too.
blinkme_210
08-12-2004, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by lam-boy
haha I figured.
nice car too.
Not so much, the paint was all beat to shit, with tons of scratches & scuffs all over. As well as rust beginning to develop on the wheel well walls. Gas tank cover was broken as well.
1-Bar
08-12-2004, 06:51 PM
sweet car...rare find indeed :thumbsup:
CanadianFC
08-12-2004, 10:58 PM
I need to get that lip!
See I don't get why you would want to drive on the wrong side of the road when you can get the exact same car and drive on the right side of the road.
I can understand importing a Silvia or a Skyline, maybe even a glass top CRX.. but the only differences between jdm and usdm FC are too minute to make it worth the trouble.
And yes I realize you can't get a USDM TII convertable, but hell, it's not that much trouble two swap the engine and drive train, probably much easier than the hassle one has to go through to import the car, register it, and grow a long neck for turning left at intersections.
But hey that's just my two cents. It's still a beautiful car and I hope to chat with the owner if I met him/her.
blinkme_210
08-12-2004, 11:34 PM
I personally liked driving the car, took me about 1 second to get past the fact that I was on the right hand side, and there was nothing to it. Left hand turns aren't as bad as I thought it would be, definitely makes you more aware when you're driving. Driving on the wrong side also gets you A LOT of comments from people whether you're driving/parked. Just going out on a road test, people were rolling down their windows to comment on the car and such.
If I was to buy a JDM RX7, or a Silvia, I would stay far away from the RX7. That one I was inspecting was particularly bad when it came to the common problem with the RX7's flooding themselves. Had to crank the shit out of the engine, and get another tech to insert a fuse under the hood while cranking to get it to start. Not to mention that one was also leaking coolant at the back side of the engine, but the owner knew that already and was gonna fix it himself.
dkny_stylez
08-12-2004, 11:37 PM
not digging it, just because it's a convertible...Other than that that's one hot ride
calgarys13
08-13-2004, 12:40 AM
http://www.importconcern.ca/broker/10209/
brought in for a friend of import concern
Akagi Redsuns
08-13-2004, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by calgarys13
http://www.importconcern.ca/broker/10209/
brought in for a friend of import concern
Looks mint....decent price as well. Not digging the single exhaust look though and I liked how they swapped the 89+ Rear Lights in :)
the broker photo's look soo much nicer. where are the rad wheels???
Akagi Redsuns
08-13-2004, 12:36 PM
OOps, that's the same car??? Man, the broker's pics makes it look sooo much nicer. What happened to it?
calgarys13
08-13-2004, 01:41 PM
what ever happened to that crazy old school mazdaspeed seat?
Team_Mclaren
08-13-2004, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by calgarys13
what ever happened to that crazy old school mazdaspeed seat?
thats not crazy old man, they still make those i think!!!
thats my dream seat!!!!
:eek: :drool:
Go4Long
08-15-2004, 03:19 AM
yeah...I want the wheels that were on the car in the broker pics :thumbsup: they would look good on my RHD RX7
Owned 2
08-19-2004, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by Go4Long
yeah...I want the wheels that were on the car in the broker pics :thumbsup: they would look good on my RHD RX7
yea dude, I love that old school dip dish look. Those rims are tight... if nyone knows where to get some give me a PM please
ApexDrift
08-20-2004, 12:02 PM
BOOOYA
Go4Long
08-23-2004, 04:30 PM
even in japan the verts are expensive...up to around $12-14000 to ship to calgary, while the normal FC's go for more in the 7-8 kinda range with varying levels of modifications.
civic_love
08-24-2004, 10:21 PM
thats a nice car but what is he still doing with a tape deck???
k_dawg
08-24-2004, 11:27 PM
sweet car:clap:
I saw that car when I was driving down Glenmore west and elbow yesterday. Made me do a double take. Didn't notice it was a convertible though.
shadow
08-25-2004, 06:59 PM
nice another jdm rx-7 import... maybe we should start a club haha. =D
I brought mine over mostly for one reason.... rotary engine... I admit it is easier to break but it is still lots of fun.
Plus you can import one for around the same price you end up paying for a really nice one around here. If you import it yourself it is not that much.... but I find most Canadian importing companies to pricy. my main complaint is when I blow a fuse... the fuse box illustration is in Japanese... =P
Awsome car though it looks clean.. I love the TII vert if I was to bring in another car I would bring in a clean TII vert and keep it stock.... I love that one... of coarse I would get a skyline as well if I had that kind of money har har. =D
current pic... not done yet.... but you get the idea..
http://forums.beyond.ca/attachment.php?s=&postid=704656
Here's a tip I just got from my mother in law.... The timing of the 15 year old rule in Canada is gonna be just right, they past a law in Japan this last spring that you will not be able to register or drive a car 15 years or older in Japan on the public roadways after this year, which means cars that fit into that age group are going to be going for less than scrap value, since it actually costs money in Japan to get rid of something.
So if you are going to buy a JDM car, wait till the spring of next year, chances are you can get the car of your dreams for next to nothing, as long as it is 15 years or older.
The supposed reasoning for this new law is two fold.
a) it means older cars that do not meet Japanese new emmisions laws will be forced off the road sooner than just not being able to pass the bi annual inspection.
b) It forces the Japanese to buy new cars, which means legislated continual growth for the Japanese auto manafacturers, which is the backbone of the japanese economy these days, well that and cigarettes and school girl porn...
There is alot of opposition to this law, from the Japanese aftermarket, this law is very much like those mandatory junker laws in the states, which threatened the collector car groups and markets, its being met with fierce resistance by tunershops and parts suppliers, but its been passed already, but it might be worth the wait to see what happens to JDM car prices in the early spring before making the commitment to buying one..Maxt
shadow
08-26-2004, 11:21 PM
Well I might pick up the skyline.. only reason I did not originally was it was not of age......
Personally I think it is a bad law in aspects as motorsport racing... because when you invest all sorts of money in tuning you only have a 15 year time period. Plus why would someone buy a car in japan that only has 2 years left on the clock... oh well... its good for us. Cheap motors.. parts... and cars...
mx73someday
08-26-2004, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by Maxt
Here's a tip I just got from my mother in law.... The timing of the 15 year old rule in Canada is gonna be just right, they past a law in Japan this last spring that you will not be able to register or drive a car 15 years or older in Japan on the public roadways after this year, which means cars that fit into that age group are going to be going for less than scrap value, since it actually costs money in Japan to get rid of something.
So if you are going to buy a JDM car, wait till the spring of next year, chances are you can get the car of your dreams for next to nothing, as long as it is 15 years or older.
The supposed reasoning for this new law is two fold.
a) it means older cars that do not meet Japanese new emmisions laws will be forced off the road sooner than just not being able to pass the bi annual inspection.
b) It forces the Japanese to buy new cars, which means legislated continual growth for the Japanese auto manafacturers, which is the backbone of the japanese economy these days, well that and cigarettes and school girl porn...
There is alot of opposition to this law, from the Japanese aftermarket, this law is very much like those mandatory junker laws in the states, which threatened the collector car groups and markets, its being met with fierce resistance by tunershops and parts suppliers, but its been passed already, but it might be worth the wait to see what happens to JDM car prices in the early spring before making the commitment to buying one..Maxt
Wow, this sounds like myth.
1. Alot of Japan domestic 15 year old cars are already dirt cheap.
2. The Japanese are already heavily influenced to buy brand new cars every 5-7 years. The cost of registration every two years is outrageous, and manufacturers make huge incentives to consumers to trade in their vehicles (this is why the Japanese domestic cars have so many crazy gadgets and standard options that we don't get: Power everything, AC in 99% of vehicles). This is also why Japan exports so many used engines and clips, the cost of registration kills resale value for older vehicles.
3. The Japanese love their classic Japanese cars, I seriously doubt they would COMPLETELY ban any 15 year old vehicle from driving on the streets. You're telling me at the end of next year, the Japanese government is going to step in and tell people that they can't drive their 1990 NSXs on the streets?
You should post some hard evidence of this, because I think you're wrong. It sounds like other myths that come from Japan: Having to replace engine every x years or x km's.
shadow
08-26-2004, 11:36 PM
I have not heard anything personally yet although I would not rule it out... I could definitely see them making it more and more difficult to keep them... to the point where only cars that are worth a lot or have a lot of sentimental value will be worth the trouble. Most car buyers will just get a new car... I could see some trade problems with outright banning. It could be considered dumping of products... giving nobody else a hope of competing in price. If you have a some info on the web about any new laws.. I would be definitely interested in a read. I helped a couple people import.. and if it is true.. I obviously have not been doing a good job keeping informed.. =P
Definitely curious tho..
rx7_turbo2
08-27-2004, 03:32 PM
Hey Shadow
Saw you today near Northhill, gave you a wave. Your cars looking good, those are some WIDE wheels, you've got them polished up nice:D
shadow
08-27-2004, 06:55 PM
Hopefully I returned the favor although sometimes I can be quite oblivious. :nut: Yeah they are quite wide.. =P I figured it out what I could do... but forgot to add the movement of when the whole system pulls forward... I might have to get thinner tires next time... which I do not want to do.... cause I know how much it is gonna cost to buy em.. :cry:
Originally posted by mx73someday
Wow, this sounds like myth.
1. Alot of Japan domestic 15 year old cars are already dirt cheap.
2. The Japanese are already heavily influenced to buy brand new cars every 5-7 years. The cost of registration every two years is outrageous, and manufacturers make huge incentives to consumers to trade in their vehicles (this is why the Japanese domestic cars have so many crazy gadgets and standard options that we don't get: Power everything, AC in 99% of vehicles). This is also why Japan exports so many used engines and clips, the cost of registration kills resale value for older vehicles.
3. The Japanese love their classic Japanese cars, I seriously doubt they would COMPLETELY ban any 15 year old vehicle from driving on the streets. You're telling me at the end of next year, the Japanese government is going to step in and tell people that they can't drive their 1990 NSXs on the streets?
You should post some hard evidence of this, because I think you're wrong. It sounds like other myths that come from Japan: Having to replace engine every x years or x km's.
I dunno guy, a myth directly from the mouth of my mother in law, who was here from Nagoya last week, and who just bought a new car, before the value of her old car plummetted do to this new law.. She is in here late 50's and has no reason to tell me lies about cars, we just got off the phone with her, she is going to try and get me some details of the law.. I have been thinking about importing a Eunos cosmo, and thats what brought the information forward. They have moved to a new low emmissions standard in Japan, 15 years ago, they didn't even run EGR on the cars, now they are pushing limits beyond what California requires, look at the cars coming out of Japan, very few of them are still turbocharged, all the "sport" cars are now N/a, the skyline, 350z, rx-8, etc etc, all "clean" n/a motors..
I don't know where you got your info from, but its not what I was told by my in laws, nor by the mechanics or tuning shops there.. The cost of registering a vehicle is no different be it new or used. The largest costs are parking, fuel and taxes... And some cars are Taxed higher than others.
Every car is inspected every 2 years, the car must meet government imposed standards, which are very stringent, and you must fix everything at one time, what is found to be wrong, this makes buying a new car, more economically feasible then say pumping 600,000 yen into a car worth 300,000 yen..
The Japanese are not as sentimental nor nostalgic as we are, they love new things, otherwise they probably wouldn't be the leaders of technology that they are.
#3, In Japan, industry runs government, the auto industry has more pull than you could possibly imagine, its a 100% flip from here, where the auto industry hates new emmisions laws, in Japan the industry embraces them, because it helps sell new cars, this new rule is just another way to cause a faster turnover in automotive consumer...
The aftermarket is probably torn on this in Japan, I could see how it could cause the enthusiast some hassle, but on the other hand the cars are not band from the race tracks, just the streets also it means a turnover in performance parts for the aftermarket as well, it will pretty much kill the used parts trading in Japan, but then Greddy and HKS would probably love that..
Something else that dawned on me this morning, was that if they do ban those cars, in particular ones that are JDM only, there is no reason to continue parts support for them from the oem level, I would think though cars that were sold internationally would still be supported, but it could pose a problem for cars that were specifically JDM, such as the skyline...Buying a car like that, could be a hard car to get parts support for, if they were imported..
I agree this law has total disregard for the sentimental value of people to their cars, and the motorsport regime, but it does suit industry economically, and thats the engine that drives that Japanese economy, when you go there, you see the influence that companies have on entire cities, in Hiroshima, Mazda, is the city, in Nagoya, Toyota has their fingers in everything, and the will of the company and the good of it, is also to some degree that of the people, while it may seem absurd and even hostile to us, its a different land, with a different mindset....
I could have only half the rule, the rule could have some caveats, or clauses for collectors, or enthusiasts, it will be interesting to see what happens.. I know Diesels are very popular over there right now, but when I was there, there was a huge emmissions crackdown on them with talk of a imposing a ban on diesel vehicles in cities...Its hard for us to understand why, but you pack 155 million people into an area smaller than Alberta, and I could probably understand the push for such emmissions tactics and strategies. A similar law was passed in some of the states, don't forget, the land of the "free", its been stopped from being imposed yet, because of the various collector car and hot rod lobbies tieing such laws up in courts, but they did get passed..maxt
Go4Long
08-28-2004, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by Maxt
The Japanese are not as sentimental nor nostalgic as we are, they love new things, otherwise they probably wouldn't be the leaders of technology that they are.
max, I know it seems like I pick on you a lot, but I have to raise the:bullshit: flag on that one...but I won't do it without backup...
straight from yahoo auto auctions japan:
SA22C RX7, 20 years old, 650k yen (http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d38586197)
98 RX7 representin with a TD06, 430 ps to the wheels, fully done up 700k (http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b54158023)
that is an extreme example, but there are plenty of them, old school GTR skylines(I believe the designation is HC31, but I am probably wrong) go for more than R34's.
the car prices sorta prove you wrong on that one, they are nostalgic about their icons...they aren't nostalgic about toyota cressidas and the like...
I payed next to nothing for my FC before shipping anyway...so it doesn't really matter to me...but they recently passed a similar bill in some states, and when they did it they made so many loopholes in it that basically the only cars that were taken off the roads by it were old chevy caprices(and no one likes them anyway)...most sports cars were exempt, anything over 20 years old was exempt, etc...
this is just my 0.02, and I know I am wrong most of the time...so it's all good
Yeah, if they were so nostalgic about them, why are they for sale?....
And they are cheap, buy japanese standards...
New cars out weight older ones on the street buy about 500:1...
I saw wrecking yards of Prime 300 zx's(fairlady z's) stacked 3 tall and 50 rows deep in wrecking yards..
You wouldn't see that done to corvettes nor camaros here..
Yes you own a JDM car, but until you spend nearly a month among the common Japanese in Japan, talking to real life Japanese tuning shops and mechanics, don't even bother arguing with me on the subject.. Its like you petting a dog, then claiming to be a vet..Maxt
PS...My JDM girlfreind is laughing at your post, and says your wrong...:)....
finboy
08-28-2004, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Maxt
Yeah, if they were so nostalgic about them, why are they for sale?....
And they are cheap, buy japanese standards...
New cars out weight older ones on the street buy about 500:1...
I saw wrecking yards of Prime 300 zx's(fairlady z's) stacked 3 tall and 50 rows deep in wrecking yards..
You wouldn't see that done to corvettes nor camaros here..
Yes you own a JDM car, but until you spend nearly a month among the common Japanese in Japan, talking to real life Japanese tuning shops and mechanics, don't even bother arguing with me on the subject.. Its like you petting a dog, then claiming to be a vet..Maxt
PS...My JDM girlfreind is laughing at your post, and says your wrong...:)....
COLD BLOODED :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Yeah I know it seems like I am being mean, but I can't put it any other way, its just such a different world and society over there,the way we do things and keep stuff here is just not heard of there.. The whole society is based on mass consumerism, and really the only way the soceity gets fed is if people keep buying new stuff, so its kinda ingrained in them to be like that..Just living with a Japanese girl has taught me alot...
They sell stuff off cheap if its old, or been damaged in anyway, they have wierd traditions and beleifs, if a car has been in an accident, nobody wants it, because its been "unlucky" once, and the bad luck may follow it, its better to ditch it, even if its just a scratch and buy a new one... Its bizarre.. In Canada we build sheds and storage to keep our old shit, maybe we are spoiled with the size of our country and the low population density, we don't appreciate the space..
But its also very expensive there to throw stuff away its better to sell it at a ridiculous price then pay the disposal fee..I bought a used wing in Japan for 800 yen, the same wing new beside it was 25,000 yen new, a customer of REamemiya bought a newer style wing, and changed it, and left the old wing to sell at RE for 800 yen, because it was going to be 2500 yen to dispose of it, because it was fiberglass and had been painted..
They get a pretty big kick out of all of us being gaga over their old stuff, standing there paying them for their "JDM" junk, we are actually probably doing them a huge favour, and they should be paying us to take it.....
On the flipside, they love anything North American... what we need is a huge swapmeet between them and us... Had I taken a box load of my big block parts with me, I could have made a fortune...maxt
finboy
08-29-2004, 01:30 AM
sweet, time to set up a usdm/jdm front clip trading ring :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
rx7_turbo2
08-29-2004, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by finboy
sweet, time to set up a usdm/jdm front clip trading ring :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Everybody meet in international water, for the big "meet" :D
finboy
08-31-2004, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by rx7_turbo2
Everybody meet in international water, for the big "meet" :D
we should just stockpile j-body parts and sell them to the toyota cavalier guys in japan :rofl: :rofl:
shadow
09-05-2004, 12:00 AM
We need articles... if you want to prove them wrong... just give us a article talking about it... it does not matter if it is in raw Japanese... we can translate. You would think something that big would have tons of articles..
I have an "in house" translator..:)...
She has been reading the web pages on it, and there is miles of text on the new emmissions laws and whats going to be done about the laws and old cars, Okasan(Mom) is supposed to send us a book on it... So far all we know the Japanese government has a major new smog policy coming down the pipe.. It also has a major hate on for diesel, don't expect to see much diesel based engines coming out of Japan anymore..
There is an engine swapping clause thats in there much like California's, if you can swap a smog legal engine into an older chassis, with all its ecu,cats, etc etc, that appears to be ok...
And these new standards must be close, I just came across an article on how to swap a rx-8 renesis into an FB(1st gen), the guy did the dash, the ecu all the emissions, sensors the whole nine yards..Motor fits good, dash looks kinda fucked up...Maxt
ehy i'm new to this site where can i find that article about the renesis in the 1st gen thanks
aquamarine
10-16-2004, 02:19 AM
I'm siding with Maxt here as I currently live in Yokohama. He is telling the truth and early next spring time most of the older cars are going to be kaput. I already have three sky-lines I'm planning on bringing over. One for me, and two to sell.
Cha cha cha baby, cheers to you Maxt!
shadow
10-16-2004, 10:32 AM
Bringing over a whole bunch of skylines... heheh you should buy a lot more and share the love with beyond members hehe skylines at cost haha... jk I am gonna be in Japan in about a year for my exchange I am gonna keep my eye out for the mitsu lancer 1993 rally edition.. at least I think thats what it is called.. =P
Next year we might actually be able to get a decent gathering of the jdm people together. Originally when I imported my car I could not find many jdmers but it looks like there is actually lots which is cool. The more jdms we can get here the better. If you are from calgary try to sell em here so you still get to see your babies every once in a while hehe. =)
aquamarine
10-17-2004, 06:51 AM
Yea, I COULD sell them at cost, but what have any of the folks from here done for ME lately? lol
Aquamarine is probably sick of seeing skylines...
When I first got to Japan, I was taking pics of every skyline, then after seeing 50 in the first 2 hours, the novelty wore off, and its just another car....Granted though its still different than other cars here, the downside for the skylines though, is being that they were never sold here, should anything go wrong with it, its gonna be a long wait for replacement parts, and expensive to get them as well.. Shadow, at least with your car, its basically a mirror image of a standard turbo FC, so alot of parts are dealer available or used parts available...Not sure if Nissan would or could import the JDM parts for you, there might be some trade/import thing they are tied to, best to check first... It might be a safer bet to just import the jdm or hotter version of cars already available here like the 180,240,fc's, 300's etc etc, just so common parts are available...
Other car I wouldn't mind having is a Mark II/Chaser, saw some really nicely done examples in Tokyo...I am going back in April, I might bring something home with me then...Maxt
Go4Long
10-17-2004, 08:32 AM
I want a pulsar GTiR :P...yeah...I agree on parts availablility though max...the only part I have had a head ache getting so far was my speedometer cable...
aquamarine
10-18-2004, 03:25 AM
Yes, Maxt is 100% correct. they are just another car. Even the nicer tuned one's are all over the place. I too took pics of EVERY single one that I saw... and after the third day here I just stopped since I knew I'd see them again. and again. and again. ..... yea.
finboy
10-18-2004, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Maxt
Aquamarine is probably sick of seeing skylines...
When I first got to Japan, I was taking pics of every skyline, then after seeing 50 in the first 2 hours, the novelty wore off, and its just another car....Granted though its still different than other cars here, the downside for the skylines though, is being that they were never sold here, should anything go wrong with it, its gonna be a long wait for replacement parts, and expensive to get them as well.. Shadow, at least with your car, its basically a mirror image of a standard turbo FC, so alot of parts are dealer available or used parts available...Not sure if Nissan would or could import the JDM parts for you, there might be some trade/import thing they are tied to, best to check first... It might be a safer bet to just import the jdm or hotter version of cars already available here like the 180,240,fc's, 300's etc etc, just so common parts are available...
Other car I wouldn't mind having is a Mark II/Chaser, saw some really nicely done examples in Tokyo...I am going back in April, I might bring something home with me then...Maxt
please get LOTS of pictures of chasers :drool: :drool: :drool:
calgarys13
10-18-2004, 10:50 AM
and cefiros!:drool: :drool: :drool:
redbaron303
10-18-2004, 11:54 AM
That FC droptop was my car.
Anyways.... very nice in person I found when I picked it up over summer. It cleaned up very nice, but it did have 15 year old paint and could have used a nice power polish. I didn't notice any rust on it when I had a look under it and that.
Sounds like the new owner has somewhat destroyed my droptop :P Oh well, shit happens.
Now the reason I bought this car to begin with is that you can not buy an fc3c droptop here in canada w/ a factory turbo engine! It's much easier than swapping IMO. It was fun while it lasted, then I ended up buying my First Gen... which is now forsale since i'm buying a couple of bimmers!
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