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infamous
10-10-2004, 12:48 AM
my brother and i were arguing about this one...

which would you rather take? a new maxima, or a new 300c?

maxima- 3.5L V6 260 hp 255 lb ft of torque...
300c- 5.7L V8 340 hp 390 lb ft of torque...

now, they are both around 50k fully loaded (with nav) and they are both really good cars, but i was wondering what the preference is on here, and why.

infamous
10-10-2004, 12:50 AM
and the maxima!

JordanLotoski
10-10-2004, 12:50 AM
MAXIMA:D ..iam bias cause i have one though:D

infamous
10-10-2004, 12:52 AM
see for myself, i have to go with the chrysler 300c. now i do love the maxima (you can get it in 6 speed) and i love nissan's in general, but the 300c is so sweet! the fact that it is rwd, v8, and it has mds (gas saver) does it for me. as well, it uses many parts from the e-class benz, so that doesn't hurt :D

1badPT
10-10-2004, 12:54 AM
^^same reasons I would choose the 300C

Akagi Redsuns
10-10-2004, 12:55 AM
The 300C. The Maxima's power is being delivered to the wrong set of wheels.

JordanLotoski
10-10-2004, 12:56 AM
heres a good pic of a maxima
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/672000-672999/672142_7_full.jpg

infamous
10-10-2004, 01:15 AM
fine here's a nicer looking 300c! :bigpimp:

theken
10-10-2004, 01:18 AM
waot until the srt-8 comes out, but personnaly i would have to go with the 300, they look so goddamn sexy, 7 year warrenty doesn't hurt either :thumbsup:

JordanLotoski
10-10-2004, 01:32 AM
300 is 12 k more too:D

infamous
10-10-2004, 01:33 AM
hehe srt-8 is going to be :bigpimp:

taken from car and driver, october 2004:

it's not as if the Chrysler 300C needed more pwer. with 340 horsepower from its 5.7 liter Hemi V8, the new Chrysler sedan ranks well ahead of its competition. nonetheless, the horsepower hooligans at Dan Knott's SRT (Street and Racing Technology) performance division of Chrysler have gilded the beast with the 300C SRT-8.

The modifications that transform a 300C into the SRT-8 are enough to make any performance freak drool. The 5.7 liter engine has been bored out, increasing displacement to 6059 cc. add in hotter valve timing and a compression ratio bump from 9.6:1 to 10.3:1, and you have 425 CTS-V squashing horsepower and a torque bump of 30, to 420 pound-feet. All of this takes place higher up the rev range with a power peak of 6200 rpm--1200 revs higher than the standard Hemi's. A larger diameter, freer flowing exhaust helps the engine breathe better and exits the rear via a pair of chrome tips. the Mercedes designed five-speed automatic with AutoStick manual control is carried over as the only transmission, but the SRT version gets a shorter final-drive ratio borrowed fromt he upcoming all-wheel-drive version of the 300C.

Chassis changes to the 300C SRT-8 include different damper settings, higher spring rates, lower ride height, and larger anti-roll bars. new 20 inch wheels are shod with agressive summer-only goodyear eagle F1 tires, 245/45 in front and 255/40 in the rear. all season tires are a no cost option. the bigger wheels house larger 14.2 inch rotors up front and 13.8 inch rotors in the back; both ends are clamped by Brembo four-piston calipers.

chrysler estimates the SRT-8 will accelerate to 60 mph in the low fives on its way to a quarter mile time in the high 13 second range. the most powerful 300C will hit showrooms in teh spring of 2005, and although prices hadn't been announced, we estimate the base price at about $49,000 USD.



God i wish that i could get my hands on one of these!

infamous
10-10-2004, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by MIWYFSHOT
300 is 12 k more too:D

12k???? i dunno but here are the screenshots that i got from the respective sites. both are fully loaded (except for things like trailer hitches and roof racks)....

infamous
10-10-2004, 01:40 AM
maxima

theken
10-10-2004, 01:41 AM
it will be a beautiful thing. if kenne belle gets his shit together and makes the hemi supercharger I am so on it

JordanLotoski
10-10-2004, 01:41 AM
wow thought they were more

1badPT
10-10-2004, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by theken
it will be a beautiful thing. if kenne belle gets his shit together and makes the hemi supercharger I am so on it

Whipple supplied a supercharger for the Dodge SRT-8 concept and I'm pretty sure they have a kit for the other vehicles with Hemi engines :D :hitit:

theken
10-10-2004, 01:55 AM
i think my tranny went tonight on my 04 :thumbsup: i gave some gas around a corner and when it went to shift it didn't do anything kinda like died, but the pedal was floored and no shift, till i let off the gas weird did it 3 times then not again

i will buy that supercharger soon, i saw the vortech on for like 4g's

lam-boy
10-10-2004, 11:09 AM
300C! :thumbsup: :D

1badPT
10-10-2004, 11:20 AM
If the Maxima was redesigned as a RWD and had the 4.3L engine and it was around the same price, then it would be a tougher decision, but the only people who are going to pick the Maxima in this poll either have a strong brand preference for Nissan or don't like Chrysler. Based on features, power, styling (although subjective) the 300C is going to come out on top.

M_Power
10-10-2004, 01:53 PM
300C just cuz i want to support any domestic company that can put a nice looking car on the road:thumbsup:

86max
10-10-2004, 02:04 PM
Tough choice......if you're going to have the vehicle forever I'd say Maxima, If you're just going to lease/finance then get rid of it in a few years, I'd say 300c. That thing looks pimp:bigpimp: Personally I'd pick the Maxima though, because I'm biased towards Nissan :)

C4S
10-10-2004, 02:05 PM
normally .. I will vote for Nissan over Domestic ..

however .. RWD ! nothing can beat it ! and with the E-Class/CLK chassis, suspension .. 300C is nice.

Make sure you r going to Lease one, not buy one, since resale value will be a concern for either Benz or Chysler. :)

1badPT
10-10-2004, 02:07 PM
You're still not forgiven for your horse video :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

statick
10-10-2004, 02:28 PM
maxima for sure, but if u can pop a tad more cahs, G35/G35X would be really nice.

Foreign1
10-10-2004, 03:37 PM
G35X anyday over both those :) if not.. i'd have to say.. ummmmm

the Max300Cima??? :drama:

dieselpower91
10-10-2004, 06:32 PM
:drool:
300C No contest in my opinion!
I don't like the look of the new Maxima's.
The 300C is one of the best looking cars out there.
Then you add some bigger wheels and :eek:

AllGoNoShow
10-10-2004, 09:10 PM
dude dont lease, thats throwing your money away, why dont peopel get that, by the time your lease is up, youve paid for the vehicle, yet you have to give it back and start from scratch, fi you cant afford it, finance it, then atleast when youve paid the thign off, its still yours, and with a 300c, I sure as hell woudlnt want to resell it. Go for the 300c

NickGT
10-10-2004, 09:39 PM
300C - So much torque :love:

JordanLotoski
10-10-2004, 09:44 PM
ohh the 04 maxima is 265hp, not 260hp

Boost Infested
10-10-2004, 09:52 PM
srt magnum.... coming soon...

http://www.autotudos.hu/kep_het_kep_03_03_dodge_magnum_srt-8_concept_nagy.jpg

finboy
10-10-2004, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Boost Infested
srt magnum.... coming soon...

http://www.autotudos.hu/kep_het_kep_03_03_dodge_magnum_srt-8_concept_nagy.jpg

HAWT

Boost Infested
10-10-2004, 09:57 PM
these might be chopped... but

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/700000-700999/700548_8_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/700000-700999/700548_7_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/700000-700999/700548_2_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/700000-700999/700548_3_full.jpg

JordanLotoski
10-10-2004, 09:58 PM
HOLY:eek:

D'z Nutz
10-10-2004, 10:03 PM
I'd take the 300C over the Maxima anyday. It looks like a poor man's Bentley! :rofl: (But that doesn't say it's a cheap car, by any means.)

20incheyes
10-11-2004, 12:06 AM
this isn't event a contest, over 300 hp, rear wheel drive, german suspension and electronics blah blah blah

as for the maxima, they put the sunroof in the wrong direction

driven both and can say, these aren;t even in the same ball game, we will have to wait for the next maxima, it might become champ once again, not now

theken
10-11-2004, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by AllGoNoShow
dude dont lease, thats throwing your money away, why dont peopel get that, by the time your lease is up, youve paid for the vehicle, yet you have to give it back and start from scratch, fi you cant afford it, finance it, then atleast when youve paid the thign off, its still yours, and with a 300c, I sure as hell woudlnt want to resell it. Go for the 300c
I am leasing my truck and at the end of the 3 years I would have paid less then half of how much the thing costs, and I only owe the other half, and u don't have to keep it, i will pay a total of $16,475during the lease, then I will owe $15,220 after the 3 years, how is that paying the total price of the vehicle during the lease??

BerserkerCatSplat
10-11-2004, 03:35 PM
300C all the way.

RWD, huge amounts of twist and HP from the Hemi, and sweet styling. How can you go wrong?
Personally, though, I'd wait for the SRT-8. Throw a blower on that baby, and hang on. Supercharged Hemis are just classic.:bigpimp:

Gspotracer
10-11-2004, 03:40 PM
300C:thumbsup:

Xtrema
10-11-2004, 09:39 PM
06 Infiniti M45!

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/infiniti2006/infiniti_m/800/02_2006_m.jpg
http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/infiniti2006/infiniti_m/800/06_2006_m.jpg
http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/infiniti2006/infiniti_m/800/03_2006_m.jpg

Tho I doubt it'll be under $50K. So if you like retro styling, 300C is a pretty good car. I just can't get past that grandpa-era interior.

Does the 300C comes with GPS Navigation as well? If not, the Maxima is actually almost $5000 less than 300C, compare apple to apple please.

Xtrema
10-11-2004, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by AllGoNoShow
dude dont lease, thats throwing your money away, why dont peopel get that, by the time your lease is up, youve paid for the vehicle, yet you have to give it back and start from scratch, fi you cant afford it, finance it, then atleast when youve paid the thign off, its still yours, and with a 300c, I sure as hell woudlnt want to resell it. Go for the 300c

1st of all, leasing is no different that financing, it's all about what rate you can get it at. Sometimes leasing cost more than finance (Mazda 3, Lease=7.1%, Finance=2.9%), but there are deals too (Volvo S40/V50, Lease AND Finance @ 3.8%).

Same rules applies, the more you put in down payment, the less you borrow, the less you pay on interest. The only difference is, financing is higher payment, less on total interest and you own when you're done. Leasing is low on payment, higher on total interest and you decide to buy out or not @ end of lease.

Dude, let me introduce something call write-offs. Leasing in only stupid IF you don't have a business to write it off.

You can write off $600 of the lease per month. So what that means is you spend pre-tax money on a car. Let's say your business tax is around 30%. That means, instead of paying $180 of tax for the $600 you made, it goes into your ride as cost and don't have to pay tax on it. In reality, you're really saving $180. In a 48month term, you save around $8500 in taxes, that'll probably at least cover your interest on loan and some more.

The end of lease is usually slightly around market value. So you can choose to buy out and keep it or lease a new car and start the saving cycle again.

Having your own ompany buy you ride is even better when you consider that if you would have your company to pay yourself wages to buy this car, the tax rate is even higher on personal income tax. Anything over $50K is tax @ close to 50%. And last I check, $50K is hardly good money to be start taxing so heavily.

So leasing is great if you have the infrastructure to support it. Why pay tax to a wasteful government when you can just spend on yourself.

Now if you have to spend on cars with post tax dollars, the only good deal is cash. Cash will usually give you better bargains on neogiation. Loan means you have to pay interest on a depreciating asset, so you're losing money on both fronts. And they usually don't give you much discount on MSRP on loans. Take those GM 0% deals for example, if you take the 0% deal, they usually won't give you the $4-$5K discount.

Even better deal yet, cash on short lease returns or used. Let someone else take the 1st 2-4 years of depreciation and get a great car for way less, if you don't really want that new car smell, of course.

Wildcat
10-11-2004, 11:34 PM
SRT-8??? what? really?? no way! :drool:

snipa_mini85
10-11-2004, 11:57 PM
Gotta go with the SRT8 if you can wait a lil bit, if not definetly 300c.

SRT8 = 500hp of pure :burnout: :eek: :drool:

300C = 340hp, can still :burnout: but it wouldn't be as fun as the SRT8

Ben
10-12-2004, 10:49 AM
The new maxima is such an Ugly car IMO. The roof to trunk lines look like ass.

The previous Gen Maxima was so much nicer.

Aleks
10-12-2004, 12:41 PM
Yeah I like the 5th gen Max a lot better! But these two cars aren't in the same category imo. V8 vs V6, rwd vs fwd... that SRT-8 is Hot :drool:

5.9 R/T
10-12-2004, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by altima
Yeah I like the 5th gen Max a lot better! But these two cars aren't in the same category imo. V8 vs V6, rwd vs fwd... that SRT-8 is Hot :drool:

No kidding, this should be G35 or M45 vs. 300C. In terms of luxury and power they are more of an even match-up.

PGTze
10-12-2004, 01:14 PM
Can't go wrong either way if you ask me :dunno:

jegger69
10-12-2004, 02:48 PM
Nissan's do rule i love the maxx! but...340 hp sounds kinda funn i would say test drive them both. i think over all the maxima is a better manufactured car (i know i cant spell)

roopi
10-12-2004, 02:50 PM
I'd take the Maxima because it would hold its value better over the 300.

5.9 R/T
10-12-2004, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by roopi
I'd take the Maxima because it would hold its value better over the 300.

To all those that would pick the Maxima because of resale, would you also pick a civic over the Maxima because IT has a better resale? Just curious.

1badPT
10-12-2004, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by jegger69
Nissan's do rule i love the maxx! but...340 hp sounds kinda funn i would say test drive them both. i think over all the maxima is a better manufactured car (i know i cant spell)
I love Nissan and I hope they revise the Maxima to offer something more competitive to the 300 but their build quality isn't the best. They are among the worst of the Japanese manufacturers - down there with Mitsus and Scubies unfortunately. The LH platform where the 300's/Magnums are built offer some of the best build qualitys of the domestic cars.

/zips up flame suit

Xtrema
10-12-2004, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by 1badPT

I love Nissan and I hope they revise the Maxima to offer something more competitive to the 300 but their build quality isn't the best. They are among the worst of the Japanese manufacturers - down there with Mitsus and Scubies unfortunately. The LH platform where the 300's/Magnums are built offer some of the best build qualitys of the domestic cars.

/zips up flame suit

I drive one and I can't agree with you more. Build quality is lacking in Nissan ever since the revival. At least their VQ engines are still very reliable and powerful. Interior workmanship is on par with Koreans.

Even Infiniti's under $50K has some pretty bad plastic pieces.

roopi
10-12-2004, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by 5.9 R/T


To all those that would pick the Maxima because of resale, would you also pick a civic over the Maxima because IT has a better resale? Just curious.

Nope. We aren't comparing Civics and Maximas now are we. Do you want another reason why I'd pick a Nissan instead? From personal experiences with Chrysler cars they are shit.

Xtrema
10-12-2004, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by roopi


Nope. We aren't comparing Civics and Maximas now are we. Do you want another reason why I'd pick a Nissan instead? From personal experiences with Chrysler cars they are shit.

Nissan resale ain't what it used to be. All car's resale has drop dramatically since new cars are usually better and cheaper and finanicing is cheap.

Chrysler used to be shit. Some are still shit. But these new MB induced mutants are fine (300C, Magnum, Pacifica, Crossfire).

Wildcat
10-12-2004, 04:43 PM
is there any numbers on the srt8? production dates? or is everything just hearsay at the moment?

DonJuan
10-13-2004, 11:08 AM
I was one of the people who want to be like cavboi, and voted neither as Nissan Rules and RWD rules so I cant choose. (I also secretly wanna be like cavboi... "no wut i meen?") Go M45 for this one!!!! mmmmmm M45......:drool:

statick
10-13-2004, 11:12 AM
M45 kidna outta price range, no? go for G35x

ZorroAMG
10-13-2004, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by C4S
normally .. I will vote for Nissan over Domestic ..

however .. RWD ! nothing can beat it ! and with the E-Class/CLK chassis, suspension .. 300C is nice.



The E class and CLK do not share the same chassis. CLK is based lower end W203 c-class chassis.

The 300C is based on the E-class chassis.

LOL just thought i'd clear that up...

Moe Man
10-14-2004, 11:34 AM
i just drove a magnum ( brother of the 300c) and all i have to say is WOW what a car man

everyone has a maxama get something different :thumbsup:

abyss
10-14-2004, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by DonJuan
I was one of the people who want to be like cavboi, and voted neither as Nissan Rules and RWD rules so I cant choose. (I also secretly wanna be like cavboi... "no wut i meen?") Go M45 for this one!!!! mmmmmm M45......:drool:

:rofl: ahaha, I think you'd make a good cavboi Kevin.

I love my Maxima but the 300 is a REALLY nice looking car.

JordanLotoski
10-14-2004, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Moe Man
i just drove a magnum ( brother of the 300c) and all i have to say is WOW what a car man

everyone has a maxama get something different :thumbsup:

what like a bonneville...:rofl: :rofl:

Blue_Jacket
10-15-2004, 01:46 AM
PeopleChoice : Maybach you are here in the board room because you costs too much, who do u wanna bring with you

Maybach : I would bring two , 300c and Maxima.

PeopleChoice : Ok porche, Viper , Xj8 and Bently you can go back to the streets.

PeopleChoice : So Maybach why did you bring 300c into the board room?

Maybach : Well Mr PeopleChoice 300c has got the grand pappie interior going on..am sure it could have done a bit better.

PeopleChoice : Well Maybach I can agree on that, but 300c is a nice piece for a good price..dont you think ?

Maybach : but uh.....

PeopleChoice : Dont interrup me !

Maybach : Yes sir.

PeopleChoice : So why did u bring Maxima into the board room?

Maxima : Thats what i want to know to. :dunno:

300c : hehehehe....

Maybach : Well Mr PeopleChoice as project manager I've notice a few dissapointments with maxima exterior, first of all look at that sun roof, Its fancy but it dosent serve any purpose, and the interior is kinda tacky..and also its such a big car with so little HP and Torque.

300c : I agree Mr PeopleChoice....that sunroof...omg..lolllll
:D its lined up the wrong way :thumbsdown

PeopleChoice : Well well...Maxima looks like you're having a tough time, you just not good enough.

Maxima : But Mr PeopleChoice......

PeopleChoice : You were doing so well in the past.

Maxima : But Mr Peep.....

PeopleChoice : Maxima this one is easy..You're FIRED !!..go back to the Car Lot

Maxima : :(

Hehhehehe.....c'mon maxima vs 300c.....no way...maxima vs kia delta....lol..........5 Thumbs Up for 300c

zboost
10-15-2004, 02:04 AM
dude max daddys are the shit.. women die for guys in maximas trust me i used to have an 87 ahahha!! the new ones are so pimp maybe ill get into one when im 85 or something.. as for now that 300c can lick my ass cause i will blow its fukin doors off.. peace:bigpimp:

1badPT
10-15-2004, 02:12 AM
^^^:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

5.9 R/T
10-15-2004, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by zboost
dude max daddys are the shit.. women die for guys in maximas trust me i used to have an 87 ahahha!! the new ones are so pimp maybe ill get into one when im 85 or something.. as for now that 300c can lick my ass cause i will blow its fukin doors off.. peace:bigpimp:

Hello Max_Boi

Blue_Jacket
10-15-2004, 01:25 PM
300Cs gets alot of chicks too..i drove my dads own several time...tthe car is just pimped out....you wont be seeing snoop riding in a MAX..hehe...holla back !

Moe Man
10-15-2004, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by roopi
I'd take the Maxima because it would hold its value better over the 300.

man if you want a car that holds its value go buy a accent or something, if your that tight on a few grand then go buy a used car. it about haveing fun driving what you like not if it holds its value :werd: