Dodge SRT-4 or Acura RSX Type S?

[93PGT]

Both are around my price range, so which would you guys take? I'm really leaning towards the SRT-4...mainly because my uncle works for Dodge and gets family discounts. My cousin bought a 2003 Dodge 1500 Hemi 4x4 off him and it cost him like $26k!!

:eek:

That would be sweet if I could get this car for around $22k.

[QuasarCav]

The one that you think you should get.

All you are going to hear is what other people think you want, you must have one that you are leaning towards.

My vote goes to the RSX, why? Becuase I like it better, does that help? No.

[93PGT]

I know...the decision is mine. I'm just curious to know which way you guys would go between these 2 cars.

[Aleks]

You're not comparing realistic hp/tq numbers there. Both are great cars. I personally would would buy SRT-4 just because of its performance. But you can't go wrong with either. If they sold the Type R here that would be another story :(

[JCX]

Well if it was me I'd say neither. I'd look for a 2004 SRT-4 still on the dealer's lot. The reason is the early SRT-4's had a 7 year powertrain warranty. It's been said (and I have not looked) that the 2005's only have a 3 year powertrain warranty. Furthermore you are likely to get a good deal.

I think the RSX-S is a fine car, but they run what? 35K new after taxes and crap? To me that's just way too much money for that car. Upgrades aren't really cheap either.

The RSX is going to have better build quality, but for the price it's to be expected. The SRT-4 is good for it's price, IMO. The 4 doors are nice as well, convenient. There are also many cheap upgrades available. For budget speed you simply can't beat it right now.

The other area people bring up is resale value. The SRT-4s are probably not going to have RSX like resales, but they are a limited production car. I was looking at production for 2004 today and it was like 10,000. Not to many. Also, with domestics, you can always get a good deal at time of purchase.

What are your goals for the car though? That makes a difference.

Edit : As the guy above mentioned, your power numbers are off. The 2005 SRT-4s will be like the 2004's. You'll see about 225-235 WHEEL HP and 250-260 WHEEL tq.

Edit #2 : I'm betting this thread will degrade into a flamewar.

[civicluva]

grab the type-s. 210 hp is amazing for a naturally aspired 4 banger. you can always turbo charge it later. str-4 is still good though :D

[badseed]

I'd personally get the RSX. I love the interiors, so classy

[red2000]

RSX-S for sure !!

Looks better...you will get more chicks~~:poosie:

[canadiandaytona]

Sport Compact car just compared them...Sounded like the RSX was an expensive hunk of Crap to me...Handled worst and was SLOW.

Biggest Difference is ya you could turbo the RSX but loos your warentty, SRT-4 you can Modify and still keep the warentty (Go MOPAR)

[Focus]

I would personaly go for the SRT4. But that is just me. (I also drive a focus:rofl: )

[GT2NV]

id have to say SRT-4 even though i really like the type s

[canadiandaytona]

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0409scc_8gr/index6.html --->RSX

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0409scc_8gr/index1.html --->SRT-4


http://sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0411scc_srt02/ --->Get the SRT-4 extreme light weight "383 lb-ft of torque fed through the Quaife limited-slip differential"
:eek:

[civicluva]

Originally posted by canadiandaytona
Sport Compact car just compared them...Sounded like the RSX was an expensive hunk of Crap to me...Handled worst and was SLOW.

:dunno: is it really that slow? 20 hp doesnt seem like a big difference.

[canadiandaytona]

"RSX type S
Base Price: $23,320
Price As Tested: $23,820
0-60 mph: 7.2 sec.
1/4 Mile: 15.3 sec. @ 93.1 mph
Slalom: 68.9 mph (700 ft.)
Skidpad: .86g (200 ft.)
60-0 Braking: 137 ft.

SRT-4
Base Price: $20,450
Price As Tested: $21,335
0-60 mph: 5.9 sec.
1/4 Mile: 14.1 sec. @ 102.1 mph
Slalom: 71.3 mph (700 ft.)
Skidpad: .88g (200 ft.)
60-0 Braking: 117 ft. "

Torque difference!

[1badPT]

Originally posted by civicluva


:dunno: is it really that slow? 20 hp doesnt seem like a big difference.

You really have to wind the RSX up to get its power, where the SRT-4 has its power throughout the whole band - down low and up high, plus way more torque :D

[JCX]

Originally posted by civicluva


:dunno: is it really that slow? 20 hp doesnt seem like a big difference.

The SRT-4 has ~230hp TO THE WHEELS stock. The RSX-S has 200hp at the CRANK stock (210 for 2005). Equal drivers on stock cars, you'd probably see about a second difference in the 1/4 mile. The SRT-4 is rather underrated by the factory. :devil:

Not to mention at higher altitudes (like Calgary) the turbo cars are less affected.

[turbo'dGSR]

I'm a big fan of turbo, buuut also a big fan of Honda......If I was you id go for the RSX type S... still a fast car, and with many possible mods can be made way funner....
Think a couple years down the road, the rsx will last!

[canadiandaytona]

Ya but a Couple years down the road the New SRT-4's will have 500 whp:burnout: heheh

[MK3HKS]

SRT-4:burnout:

[JCX]

Originally posted by turbo'dGSR
I'm a big fan of turbo, buuut also a big fan of Honda......If I was you id go for the RSX type S... still a fast car, and with many possible mods can be made way funner....
Think a couple years down the road, the rsx will last!

If you'd thought to actually investigate a comment you'd see that the second gen Neon platform has been quite reliable. Further, the SRT-4 has a very strong motor that has held quite a lot more power than stock. The tranny is likewise strong. You don't have to like the SRT-4, but at least be truthful.

[NickGT]

SRT-4 all the way :burnout:

[cavb0i]

buddy of mine has the str4 crazy fast car!! 2.2l only too!!!!! my 2.4 cav engine isnt even dat phast! :rofl:

[93PGT]

LOL, the SRT-4 is a 2.4L, not a 2.2L you retard. :guns:

[403Gemini]

id go srt-4, imo rsx-s are over priced under powered, but its a honda so its built to last and keep its value.

if you want a car that you dont plan on selling for quite some time, go with srt-4, but if your a person that likes to go through cars like ever 3-5 yrs go rsx

[adrianracer]

Just look at all the numbers... the SRT-4 wins them all - wow, and the RSX has that same old boring Acura styling. Nothing like lots of torque at 2300 RPM. Go and try both and then decide, sitting in front of your computer is futile! :eek:

[civicrider]

okay but whats more important to you, speed or style, if the little bit of extra speed that the SRT-4 is what you want get it but if you want more style go with the Type-S

[Weapon_R]

Test them both out and determine what your needs are. THey are different cars.

The SRT-4 is a performance vehicle with a lot of practicality IMO.

The RSX is much more refined and better able to hold its value.

If you are buying a car for the long run, the RSX is a better buy. If you are buying and planning to sell in a few years, i'd take the SRT-4 - much funner car.

Take them both for a drive and then make your final decision.

[BigMass]

all depends what you call fun. The RSX-S handles way better than the SRT-4. I'll take that over straight line any day. Also, the RSX looks way better than the SRT-4. The worst part of the SRT-4 in my opinion is the looks and handling. SRT-U. U is for understeer.

IMO the RSX-S is a much better balanced and higher quality car. Its also more expensive so that also factors in.

[civicluva]

the rsx does not handle better. i dont know where you got your info but that is one of its flaws.

[5.9 R/T]

Originally posted by civicrider
okay but whats more important to you, speed or style, if the little bit of extra speed that the SRT-4 is what you want get it but if you want more style go with the Type-S

Style is a matter of opinion, and 'the little bit of extra speed' is like comparing an RSX S to a base Cav. If you buy based on performance or practicality the SRT4 has the RSX beat in every way. The only thing the RSX has on paper that beats the SRT4 is that it will probably hold its value better. And according to the dodge website the 7 year warrenty is still available.

[1badPT]

Originally posted by BigMass
all depends what you call fun. The RSX-S handles way better than the SRT-4. I'll take that over straight line any day. Also, the RSX looks way better than the SRT-4. The worst part of the SRT-4 in my opinion is the looks and handling. SRT-U. U is for understeer.

IMO the RSX-S is a much better balanced and higher quality car. Its also more expensive so that also factors in.

Looks are subjective but if you're trying to suggest an SRT-4 doesn't handle well(especially compared to an RSX which I believe it beat on the skidpad, trying to find numbers...), you simply don't know what you're talking about. :dunno:

[BigMass]

sorry i was talking about the RSX-S. I havent driven a base RSX. The SRT has grose understeer and terrible torque steer IMO if you push it to the limits. Both understeer quite a bit being FWD but the SRT felt way more wank. But like is said. The RSX-S is considerably more expensive and if money is a factor then the SRT is a good buy. It’s hard to get a good handling car in that price range outside of a Miata anyways.

[BigMass]

I know looks are subjective. Personally, i think the old 2 door neons look way better than the new 4 door. The front end of the SRT 4 looks good. If they took that and put it together with the old 2 door look, i think that could have gone a long way. The wheelbase seems way too long as well.

[5.9 R/T]

Originally posted by BigMass
I know looks are subjective. Personally, i think the old 2 door neons look way better than the new 4 door. The front end of the SRT 4 looks good. If they took that and put it together with the old 2 door look, i think that could have gone a long way. The wheelbase seems way too long as well.

Here are the numbers laid out for you. Sorry to say but you are wrong, base, premium, or type s, none handle as well as the 4.



Originally posted by canadiandaytona
"RSX
Base Price: $23,320
Price As Tested: $23,820
0-60 mph: 7.2 sec.
1/4 Mile: 15.3 sec. @ 93.1 mph
Slalom: 68.9 mph (700 ft.)
Skidpad: .86g (200 ft.)
60-0 Braking: 137 ft.

SRT-4
Base Price: $20,450
Price As Tested: $21,335
0-60 mph: 5.9 sec.
1/4 Mile: 14.1 sec. @ 102.1 mph
Slalom: 71.3 mph (700 ft.)
Skidpad: .88g (200 ft.)
60-0 Braking: 117 ft. "

Torque difference!

[1badPT]

Originally posted by BigMass
sorry i was talking about the RSX-S. I havent driven a base RSX. The SRT has grose understeer and terrible torque steer IMO if you push it to the limits. Both understeer quite a bit being FWD but the SRT felt way more wank. But like is said. The RSX-S is considerably more expensive and if money is a factor then the SRT is a good buy. It’s hard to get a good handling car in that price range outside of a Miata anyways.

You have to have torque to get torque steer :rofl:

[adrianracer]

Originally posted by BigMass
all depends what you call fun. The RSX-S handles way better than the SRT-4. I'll take that over straight line any day. Also, the RSX looks way better than the SRT-4. The worst part of the SRT-4 in my opinion is the looks and handling. SRT-U. U is for understeer.

IMO the RSX-S is a much better balanced and higher quality car. Its also more expensive so that also factors in.

Hey smart guy, how do you explain the SRT-4 being faster in the slalom and better grip on the skid pad, and better in breaking????

[Jeevin]

RSX = long term reliabilty, good overall speed
SRT-4= good car for a while, fast.

[adrianracer]

Originally posted by Jeevin
RSX = long term reliabilty, good overall speed
SRT-4= good car for a while, fast.

Have you looked at JD Power lately? Acura and Honda arn't what they used to be, and I used to race a Honda in the early 90's, they were good then!

[1badPT]

I dunno if its fair to say they aren't what they used to be, its just that a lot of the companies have caught up in terms of build quality so by comparison they don't seem as good, but Honda does build a solid car.

[Phuqu]

Originally posted by civicluva


:dunno: is it really that slow? 20 hp doesnt seem like a big difference.

HP sells cars.
Torque wins races.

[BigMass]

Originally posted by 1badPT


You have to have torque to get torque steer :rofl:

lol good one :thumbsup:

[BigMass]

Originally posted by 5.9 R/T


Here are the numbers laid out for you. Sorry to say but you are wrong, base, premium, or type s, none handle as well as the 4.


thats the base model. Show me a comparisson with the Type S

[habsfan]

Originally posted by adrianracer


Hey smart guy, how do you explain the SRT-4 being faster in the slalom and better grip on the skid pad, and better in breaking????

tires. rsx's have super shitty, rock hard all season tires stock. throw tires with as much stick as the srt-4's stock rubber and they're alot closer. but if it were my choice, i'd probably buy an srt-4, in black, and ditch the wing :burnout:

[7thgenvic]

its such a close call, as much as im a honda guy, i drove my friend SRT and i loved it! for that price, its a good deal, especially with the 7yr warrenty!

its totally up to you! if you like style or power or whatever, you also really have to think long term and what you will get more value from!

a honda is a honda, they last.

[finboy]

Originally posted by habsfan


tires. rsx's have super shitty, rock hard all season tires stock. throw tires with as much stick as the srt-4's stock rubber and they're alot closer. but if it were my choice, i'd probably buy an srt-4, in black, and ditch the wing :burnout:

tires on the srt are REALLY skinny, only 205's. good tires but skinny like pencil lead.

i say srt 4 if you like performance, rsx if you like resale value

[Bonka]

What's the price gap between the SRT-4 and the Type-S? Not in the same league.

Get the SRT-4. Big deal. Interior fit and finish isn't close to the Acura, but it's no Pontiac interior :rofl:

Just get 4, 5, 6 years out of it and you'll be thoroughly happy. Make sure you can get your hands on the Mopar upgrades :poosie:

[5.9 R/T]

Originally posted by BigMass


thats the base model. Show me a comparisson with the Type S

That is the type S, before making claims make sure you read the whole thread.


Originally posted by canadiandaytona
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0409scc_8gr/index6.html --->RSX

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0409scc_8gr/index1.html --->SRT-4


http://sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0411scc_srt02/ --->Get the SRT-4 extreme light weight "383 lb-ft of torque fed through the Quaife limited-slip differential"
:eek:

[zboost]

heres my stats for you
rsx= heap of shit
srt4- fun car for a daily driver.. its a neon but hey its turbo! and its a 2.4... comes with nice wheels good sound system.. i had one for a couple hours and for a stock car the power was decent the only complaint i have about it was wen i frist pulled out of my area fryed the tires through first then banged second and the shifter ball was in the palm of my hand i was like what the fuck!!!!..lol..
one thing i like allot about both these cars is the interior and the SEATS! if my shoulders were a little bit more narrow it would be a swet seat but instead i got these hulk shoulders that make me sit all up close to the windshield.. yah.. this is a no brainer... take the srt

[iceburns288]

Originally posted by habsfan


tires. rsx's have super shitty, rock hard all season tires stock. throw tires with as much stick as the srt-4's stock rubber and they're alot closer. but if it were my choice, i'd probably buy an srt-4, in black, and ditch the wing :burnout:

That's exactly what I was thinkin... black/black with no wing!:nut: (and a Mopar stage 3 turbo kit!:burnout: )

[talonted]

srt-4

[rockym20]

I think the RSX Type S is way overpriced for the performance it delivers. You can buy a WRX or RX-8 for only a few thousand more.

[TypeS]

so have you driven them both yet 93PGT?

[blueripper6]

Just a thought.. but how about a SE-R SpecV?

Sorry.. but I just love those cars. I would take the SRT-4..

Just cause I have a video of it doing donuts with trays on the back and going mudding!! LOL PM for msn and ill send it to you.. hehe...:clap: :angel:

[civicluva]

sorry but i would have to take the 4, the rsx is a good car and all but highly overrated. as i am a honda/acura fan their cars are getting too much attention.

and about the 4 handling crappy: :bullshit:

i have test driven one and its very close to perfect (opinion). on tv yesterday (a-channel) they rated the srt-4 a whopping 4/5. handling being one of the best things. interior was quite poor but the seats are very nice :thumbsup:

[403Gemini]

haha wheres jaret who thinks the srt-4 is CRAP? lol hes just mad cause a "neon" can crush his prelude in a race ;) hehe

[googe]

obligatory "ITS STILL JUST A NEON" post
:rofl:

but yeah, SRT-4 hands down. underpriced and overpowered or overpriced and underpowered...

[Moonracer]

If you want bang for the buck get the srt-4. But there's no chance in hell I'd buy one. I don't car if it's a little faster, the rsx-s has much better qualiity. As for torque...that only matters in drag racing which I don't care much for. So it all comes down to what your needs and wants are. :nut:

[cujo_cjc]

thats a tough choice cuz the srt4 is much cheaper...and the 05 type s is now around mid 30's in pricing..which is a little too high imo
but..the 05 stats are supposedly a little better and the 0-60 is around 6.5 sec (not 7.2...even the 02-04 were 6.7)
and the 1/4 mile is now 14.8 as to 15.2 (02-04)

[Moonracer]

05' RSX-S - 210 hp
143 tq
2840 lbs curb weight
power to weight ratio 1hp - 13.52 lbs

05' SRT-4 - 230 hp
245 tq
2900 lbs curb weight
power to weight ratio 1hp - 13.18 lbs

With the same tires looks pretty even to me besides tq. & $

[1badPT]

so you think that over 100 lb.ft of torque difference is not significant? :nut:

Plus the 250 lb.ft of torque on the SRT-4 is available down low(2200 RPM), the RSX-S you'd be revving the snot out of it to get to the high end of its torque curve(143 lb-ft @ 7000 rpm), and even when you get there you're still missing 100lb.ft of torque when compared to the SRT-4. :dunno:

They are very different cars. If you want performance, the SRT-4 is the clear choice. If you want a cool interior, resale or just want an import and don't mind the price difference, go with the RSX-S.

[CKY]

the type S's interior isn't exactly proportional to its price tag, the centre console is too simple

[Moonracer]

Originally posted by 1badPT
so you think that over 100 lb.ft of torque difference is not significant? :nut:

Plus the 250 lb.ft of torque on the SRT-4 is available down low(2200 RPM), the RSX-S you'd be revving the snot out of it to get to the high end of its torque curve(143 lb-ft @ 7000 rpm), and even when you get there you're still missing 100lb.ft of torque when compared to the SRT-4. :dunno:

They are very different cars. If you want performance, the SRT-4 is the clear choice. If you want a cool interior, resale or just want an import and don't mind the price difference, go with the RSX-S.

Well if you're on the roadcourse with both of these cars then torque is not an issue because if you are driving an rsx you are always high up in the rev range right where the hp is. You wouldn't be using the full rev range. In daily driving yes the torque comes in handy but hondas are made to rev. :D

[1badPT]

Short stroke engines can be revved high, Honda or otherwise. You'll benefit from torque on a road course because its the torque that will accelerate you out of a corner, and having more is never a bad thing, and having more throughout your whole powerband is a great thing :thumbsup:

[Moonracer]

ah yeah but torque AND hp will accelerate you out of a corner. If you are always above the torque range then it's not alot of good then is it? IE a short stroke.

[Aleks]

Originally posted by Moonracer
05' RSX-S - 210 hp
143 tq
2840 lbs curb weight
power to weight ratio 1hp - 13.52 lbs

05' SRT-4 - 230 hp
245 tq
2900 lbs curb weight
power to weight ratio 1hp - 13.18 lbs

With the same tires looks pretty even to me besides tq. & $

These numbers are a bit skewed. We all know that the difference in wheel hp between these two car is a lot larger than that. Just look at the 0-60 and 1/4 mile numbers

[adrianracer]

Originally posted by Moonracer
ah yeah but torque AND hp will accelerate you out of a corner. If you are always above the torque range then it's not alot of good then is it? IE a short stroke.

Oh boy, now we are making alot of sense... If you are out of the torque range (which is from 2200 - 5200 on the SRT) you change gears!!! and reactivate the 250 ft lbs over again?!, obviously you don't shift much after 5200 rpm on the SRT like you have to on the RSX. Oh, and the real #'s are 0-60, slalom, breaking, skidpad... not ft lb/wt ratio. and the SRT has 250 torque not 245 (not that it matters much!) and here is a little secret, put a $2.00 spring on the wastegate actuator and you have 265 or more safe torque!

[canadiandaytona]

I think you all Missed One of My posts..
Stage 3 Turbo kit for the SRT-4 = "383 lb-ft of torque":eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
With warrenty Now there torque difference is 200lbs
hahaha

[rockym20]

Originally posted by canadiandaytona
I think you all Missed One of My posts..
Stage 3 Turbo kit for the SRT-4 = "383 lb-ft of torque":eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
With warrenty Now there torque difference is 200lbs
hahaha

The problem with this is that it uses a water injection system. So what? Well, if you don't have a winter beater, you are screwed as the whole system will freeze up in the winter.

[QuasarCav]

Or you could drain the system and turn down the boost.

[canadiandaytona]

Exactially Who would want 380 lbs or torque in winter anyway...You would go no where!

[canadiandaytona]

Or if you where freaking Nuts add alchohol to the water injection insted:poosie:

[nj2Type-S]

i own an '03 rsx-s and i love my car. like what these guys have already said, the srt-4 will kill the type-s from a dig or from a roll stock for stock. you'd have to modify the rsx a lot to be able to beat an srt-4.

if you're looking to just go fast, then obviously the srt-4 is the way to go. styling is subjective so you really can't compare that. although with 4-doors, the srt-4 is rather convenient.

as far as interior goes, the rsx's interior is awesome! very classy and subtle but has a hint of aggressiveness whereas the srt-4's interior looks like, well, a neon (i'm aware that it's a neon).

ultimately, it really does depend on what you're looking for in your car. i chose the rsx-s because it has impressive numbers for a N/A 2.0L 4 banger but also because of it's overall build and quality. i, personally am looking at an srt-4 but i'm going to wait a few years to see how 'reliable' it is.


p.s. you do get more chiks w/ rsx's! :D

[nj2Type-S]

Originally posted by habsfan


tires. rsx's have super shitty, rock hard all season tires stock. throw tires with as much stick as the srt-4's stock rubber and they're alot closer. but if it were my choice, i'd probably buy an srt-4, in black, and ditch the wing :burnout:


yes, the rsx's have really crappy tires :banghead:

[adrianracer]

Originally posted by nj2Type-S
i own an '03 rsx-s and i love my car. like what these guys have already said, the srt-4 will kill the type-s from a dig or from a roll stock for stock. you'd have to modify the rsx a lot to be able to beat an srt-4.

if you're looking to just go fast, then obviously the srt-4 is the way to go. styling is subjective so you really can't compare that. although with 4-doors, the srt-4 is rather convenient.

as far as interior goes, the rsx's interior is awesome! very classy and subtle but has a hint of aggressiveness whereas the srt-4's interior looks like, well, a neon (i'm aware that it's a neon).

ultimately, it really does depend on what you're looking for in your car. i chose the rsx-s because it has impressive numbers for a N/A 2.0L 4 banger but also because of it's overall build and quality. i, personally am looking at an srt-4 but i'm going to wait a few years to see how 'reliable' it is.


p.s. you do get more chiks w/ rsx's! :D

Thanks, I think that pretty much sums it up... except for the P.S! :thumbsdow

[voodoo]

Originally posted by nj2Type-S


p.s. you do get more chiks w/ rsx's! :D


well i looked at both before i setlled with the SRT-4.... i like taking the car to the track and autoX and the SRT-4 just suited my needs better.... also the 4 doors in my opinion is a plus.... a car that fast and has a functional back seat (fairly roomy for a compact car)



also. if your buying a car to pick up chicks...... buy a prostute...its cheaper

[JCX]

Originally posted by rockym20


The problem with this is that it uses a water injection system. So what? Well, if you don't have a winter beater, you are screwed as the whole system will freeze up in the winter.

The problem is, you're 100% WRONG. The stage 3 turbo upgrade from Mopar doesn not now, nor has it ever used water injection. Lets try to keep things true in this thread.

One comment on the winter, if you have Dial-a-boost with Stage 3 you can set the boost LOW for winter.

[Moonracer]

Originally posted by adrianracer


Oh boy, now we are making alot of sense... If you are out of the torque range (which is from 2200 - 5200 on the SRT) you change gears!!! and reactivate the 250 ft lbs over again?!, obviously you don't shift much after 5200 rpm on the SRT like you have to on the RSX. Oh, and the real #'s are 0-60, slalom, breaking, skidpad... not ft lb/wt ratio. and the SRT has 250 torque not 245 (not that it matters much!) and here is a little secret, put a $2.00 spring on the wastegate actuator and you have 265 or more safe torque!

I wasn't talking about the srt I was talking about the rsx-s. As for power to weight ratio....that is only a guide but if you compare numbers from various cars' performance, you will see simalar numbers from vehicles with simalar power to weight ratios. Of course some cars put the power to the ground better than others and tires make a big difference also. But my point is their performance is very close. Put them on a track together and the winner will be the one with the better driver. :D

[ZorroAMG]

Stop comparing the HP numbers..

The SRT-4 is 230 or so to the wheels

The RSX is 168 given 20% power loss due to the drive train.


Now have fun with the REAL numbers...

[canadiandaytona]

Wrong Again Moonracer.

Equal drivers Stock car srt-4 wins everytime period.

[voodoo]

gotta love the SRT-4 VS import sport compacts arguements.

[QuasarCav]

Originally posted by canadiandaytona
Wrong Again Moonracer.

Equal drivers Stock car srt-4 wins everytime period.


:werd:

I dont think the RSX-S would win even if it was Micheal Schumacher vs. a Handicapped Cleaning Midget.

[ade99]

Originally posted by Moonracer
05' RSX-S - 210 hp
143 tq
2840 lbs curb weight
power to weight ratio 1hp - 13.52 lbs

05' SRT-4 - 230 hp
245 tq
2900 lbs curb weight
power to weight ratio 1hp - 13.18 lbs

With the same tires looks pretty even to me besides tq. & $

Don't forget that the SRT4 crank rating is underrated (puts down about 220-230 to the wheels) so those numbers are quite misleading

[voodoo]

yeh i put down 239 and 256 stock.

[adrianracer]

Originally posted by voodoo



also. if your buying a car to pick up chicks...... buy a prostute...its cheaper

Ha, Ha good advice voodoo!

[adrianracer]

Originally posted by Moonracer


But my point is their performance is very close. Put them on a track together and the winner will be the one with the better driver. :D

Moonracer, relax buddy, it's "ok" to admit that there is no comparison in the performance arena, because the RSX does have a better interior. :D

[voodoo]

Originally posted by adrianracer


Ha, Ha good advice voodoo!

well its true... unless you visit them alot.....

[THREE40SEVEN]

Originally posted by Phuqu


HP sells cars.
Torque wins races.
Then why arent we racing diesels?

[civicluva]

Originally posted by Moonracer
Put them on a track together and the winner will be the one with the better driver. :D

not really the 4 would whip it to hell even if you swap it with a PT auto tranny. my friends 4 dyno'd at 238 hp to the wheels when it was stock!! hands down, it's an awesome car.

[nj2Type-S]

yah, i wanted to go for a test drive but a couple of dealerships i've been to were out of srt-4's :(

[adrianracer]

Originally posted by nj2Type-S
yah, i wanted to go for a test drive but a couple of dealerships i've been to were out of srt-4's :(

I'm really glad to hear that, it should help resale value on the SRT-4 as this is one of it's "potential" downsides?

[Moonracer]

Originally posted by canadiandaytona
Wrong Again Moonracer.

Equal drivers Stock car srt-4 wins everytime period.

:rofl: Let's take it to the track buddy! :tongue:

[Moonracer]

Originally posted by QuasarCav



:werd:

I dont think the RSX-S would win even if it was Micheal Schumacher vs. a Handicapped Cleaning Midget.

haha come on now, a handi cleaning midget..... :rolleyes:



Originally posted by adrianracer


Moonracer, relax buddy, it's "ok" to admit that there is no comparison in the performance arena, because the RSX does have a better interior. :D

It's a close comparison with the edge to the neon. If you want to get real just think about what we are comparing. A normally aspirated engine putting out 210hp stock compared to a turbo charged engine with 230hp or maybe a tad more. Anyway I still wouln't buy a neon, I got stuck driving one for a month and it sucked ass :barf: mind you if I had to drive one the srt wouldn't be so bad, maybe...

[civicluva]

the rsx-s is 210 at the crank while the 4 is 230 at the wheels. and if you look at it in perspective, the 4 was built to handle much more than the stock 230. rsx-s is na, and its power is excellent for a 4 banger but i doubt you are going anywhere fast when it comes to upgrading and building it to accept boost.

[rockym20]

Originally posted by QuasarCav
Or you could drain the system and turn down the boost.

Yes you could do that, but to my understanding it uses the resevoir for your windshield washer fluid. Winter Conditions + no fluid = crashy crashy

[Phuqu]

Originally posted by JCX



One comment on the winter, if you have Dial-a-boost with Stage 3 you can set the boost LOW for winter.

I should show them the dyno for the Stage 2 with the Dial-A-Boost set at 0. :D

[canadiandaytona]

Originally posted by Moonracer


:rofl: Let's take it to the track buddy! :tongue:

You vs me or RSX S vs SRT-4
because either way I'll hand you your Ass:thumbsup:

[JCX]

Originally posted by Phuqu


I should show them the dyno for the Stage 2 with the Dial-A-Boost set at 0. :D

I have it. ;) :whipped: :cry:

[canadiandaytona]

Please tell me it still smokes the RSX S Please

[voodoo]

it puts like 170hp and like 2XX something torque if i remember correctly

[Phuqu]

Close.

It put down 197hp and 218tq. That was the lowest possible to the wheels hp and tq for the Stage 2 on the lowest setting.

If you really want to make things even pull one of the spark plug wires off and then race the RSX Type S.

You could call it the SRT-3.