Race of Champions - Schumacher eliminated 1st round!

[rage2]

haha, beat by Fillipe Massa. MS is an overrated driver! :rofl:

Anyone else watching?

[JAYMEZ]

Wow , I thought he would do a little better.. What a blow for Ferrari. Ahh well , you cant win them all. Now things should be interesting!

[rage2]

I had to go to work, so I didn't finish watching.

Coulthard got owned harsh too. Colin McRae hit the wall in turn 1, but managed to push hard enough for a win.

Then there's one guy who stalled off the line... haha.

[/////AMG]

hahaha.

Poor Schumacher, oh well!! :thumbsup:

a thumbs up for Colin McRae though. :thumbsup:

[hjr]

wow, i thought he would make it farther than that... im kinda dissapointed, but then again somewhat vindicated in my view that ferrari contributes more to his sucess than most people think.

[rage2]

Originally posted by hjr
wow, i thought he would make it farther than that... im kinda dissapointed, but then again somewhat vindicated in my view that ferrari contributes more to his sucess than most people think.
:werd:

Most people don't get it, they think schuey is god and it's all him. They tend to forget that Ferrari (and budget) is the key to his success. He didn't get beat by much... like 0.05s or something. It was close, could've gone either way.

[JAYMEZ]

LOL , I would hate to stall at the start , ouch :poosie:

[iceburns288]

Originally posted by rage2

:werd:

Most people don't get it, they think schuey is god and it's all him. They tend to forget that Ferrari (and budget) is the key to his success. He didn't get beat by much... like 0.05s or something. It was close, could've gone either way.

Yeah, considering Ferrari has the biggest budget in F1...:rolleyes:
BUT they do make the fastest cars!:D

Obviously he is an amazing driver or else Rubens wouldn't be so far behind him losing by a minute or so every race! A good pit crew won't cost you nearly a whole lap...:rolleyes:

He didn't start at Ferrari, obviously. He earned his place there. He nearly won that race with only one functioning gear in 94...:eek:

[iceburns288]

Wait a sec... Massa?:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Team_Mclaren]

overall i think the show is great!!
Loeb got beat by Kovalainen in the finals. and ther 23 year old won.
MS got beaten by Kovalainen in the Ferrari 360 in the third round, what a joke!:rofl: (im happy, i hate MS..:D ). I also think that the penalty system was retarded too... hitting the wall = 10 secs, thats why MS advaned into the next round and got beaten by Kovalainen...

You think getting beat by Massa was bad... what about this Finish guy that most people have never even heard of~!

note: just wanna say the US commentators suck ASS, they mixed by Bourdais and Schumacher :guns:

[benyl]

France cheated!

Funny how that happens in France all the time...

[rage2]

haha fuck talk about a setup for a French win! What a joke that final nations cup race.

- Finland wins race #1
- France hits the wall in race #2, but DOESN'T GET PENALIZED because "it's not severe enough of a hit". While ppl that nudged the wall earlier got the 10 second penalty. :bullshit:
- Finland wins race #3
- France wins race #4
- France wins race #5 because the Finland F360 ran out of gas or something.

It was Finland's nations cup. What a BS french win, cuz it was hosted in France I'll bet!

As for the top drivers, they were all fairly consistent, but yea, that Finnish Kid Heikki Kovalainen, while all the top drivers were beating each other with < 1s margins, Kovalainen went and owned EVERY top driver by 1-3s! Talk about godlike status.

The most amazing thing was when he ran against S. Loeb in a WRC car and beat him by 1.5s.... and this was Kovalainen's first time in a WRC car. 5 mins before the race the organizers were teaching him how to use the controls.

A future star in the making.

[GC84ever]

When was this on???
What channel???
I can't believe I missed it :banghead:
Do you know when it'll be on again?

[hyperwhite]

what channel was this? will they be re-airing it

[hyperwhite]

^^^
damn, beat me to it

[Akagi Redsuns]

It's on HDNet, the channel not worthly of Canadians to have according to the CRTC :(

[GC84ever]

Originally posted by hyperwhite
^^^
damn, beat me to it

^^ ha ha
I check Speedtv.com, it's supposed to be on the Dec 12.
http://www.speedtv.com/programs/271/
How did every body else watch it? :confused:

[rage2]

HDNet in the US.
Speed Channel is showing only highlight clips of it on Dec 12th.
It's on PPV for ExpressVu according to rvd.


Originally posted by rvd
tis on expressvu no worries.

* Race of Champions Nations Cup

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An all-star exhibition race featuring Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson &amp; Michael Schumacher.

Live, Saturday December 4 at 10:30am on channel 351.

Replays: At 7pm.

This race is also available in High Definition on channel 830. Customers who order the event in High Def will also get the event on Channel 351 at no additional charge.

NASCAR stars Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson take on the 7-time Formula One champion Michael Schumacher and other European stars in the Race of Champions Nations Cup. The race takes place LIVE from Paris, on a figure eight-shaped dirt-paved combo track built inside a 70,000-seat soccer stadium.

[hyperwhite]

:bullshit: damn express vu. i dont want to pay 15 bucks :thumbsdow

[rage2]

Originally posted by GC84ever
How did every body else watch it? :confused:
I watched it on HDNet. Watching the F360's tear it up in HDTV was amazing! Not to mention the synchronized sideways drifts around the last corner in the WRC cars :drool:.

Maybe I'll rip a sample clip of the Schumacher vs Kovalainen race. He beat schuey by a full second, and it was one of schuey's best runs.

[buh_buh]

Damn cable!:cry:

[benyl]

It was on practically all day.

MS: "I thought the race was over :dunno: hehe"

What a dumb ass. I guess he needed a computer to tell him how many laps he had left? Maybe the flag man would have given him a clue?

[rage2]

haha yea, what was up with that, thinking his race was 3 laps and giving up? What a dork.

Good to see that all the top drivers are so close to each other. MS vs Sebatian Loeb. What a great (and close) race of 2 great drivers.

[Team_Mclaren]

or when that dumbass guy asked him
"How did you like the win against Massa?"
MS:"I won? I thought i lost...."

I didn't watch the nations cup, only the champ of champs. That Finish guy is truly amazing, first non rally driver to win ever i think. It was awesome when after he beat ms, jump on top of the 360 going crazy!:nut:

i watched it on bell expessVu

[rage2]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren
or when that dumbass guy asked him
&quot;How did you like the win against Massa?&quot;
MS:&quot;I won? I thought i lost....&quot;

I didn't watch the nations cup, only the champ of champs. That Finish guy is truly amazing, first non rally driver to win ever i think. It was awesome when after he beat ms, join on top of the 360 going crazy!:nut:

i watched it on bell expessVu
MS had no clue because Massa was actually penalized for grazing one of the walls. The same penalty that wasn't enforced in the Nations Cup against the French where the impact was 10000x more harsh. So my title is wrong (but right at the time!)

Because the event was run as a "fun" event for charity, fixes are OK, and was fairly obvious hehe.

If MS actually did get eliminated in round 1, the crowd would not be too pleased.

Did anyone notice how mediocre David Coulthard was? Just like in F1, inconsistent, and not terribly fast.

[Team_Mclaren]

Well i still thinks that those penalies are stupid, who cares if they hit the wall... its not like its gonna make you faster (unintentional).

DC was slow in the first round, how did he do in the nations cup?... and wtf were they thinking racing those little motorbike engine powered little cars in the first round? couldn't the find something better and more attractive...? (i dont know... but i just hate them).


no one knew about those penalties, those two guys from HDNet really sucked! First it was the "i dont know any rules and wtf is going on" , then mixed up cars between Bourdais and Schumacher even tho flags were there waving on the damn car! "Oh i think Schumacher has a problem with the car... Bourdais is leading the race by 2 secs". :guns: Everything they said were lame ass also, worse than Speed channel doing F1... (which i think is horrible)

[hjr]

http://www.masrallye.com/campeones/campeones2.asp

shows that shui made it to the 3rd round. beating Bourdais in a ferrari before loosing to Kovalainen, who then beat Loeb in the final round.

It should probably be noted that McRae got shafted in the first round though

[hjr]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren
... and wtf were they thinking racing those little motorbike engine powered little cars in the first round? couldn't the find something better and more attractive...? (i dont know... but i just hate them). those are ROC cars. they generally use them in the first round to get everyone acclimatized to the track (that said, usually the track is gravel, not paved). Then they move to full wrc spec cars (206 for a long while). This year with the large road contingent and asphault course, they threw in the 360 for the road guys and the 307 or Xsara for the rally guys. then the final is run with one road and one rally car and then either or if nessisary.

[BigMass]

Yeah but Michael beat Loeb so Michael would make a better rally driver than Loeb right? :rolleyes: That whole event was a joke and fairly boring to watch at that. Most of the divers didnt take it seriously and were just having fun. I can't believe anyone would judge driving ability from that. Even if Michael won every race it would prove nothing in terms of driving ability. The whole event was pretty much a light hearted joke/get together for professional drivers.

[Team_Mclaren]

i wouldnt think of it as a big joke or whatever... but no one likes to lose, thats for sure. everyone looked pretty serious when racing, i dont believe that they are going FULL OUT but again, they are there to win.

[rage2]

Originally posted by hjr
http://www.masrallye.com/campeones/campeones2.asp

shows that shui made it to the 3rd round. beating Bourdais in a ferrari before loosing to Kovalainen, who then beat Loeb in the final round.

It should probably be noted that McRae got shafted in the first round though
Schuey lost the 1st round (so we thought at the time), but later it was shown that Massa nudged the wall somewhere and got penalized 10 seconds, therefore giving MS the win. Even MS thought he lost.

Originally posted by BigMass
Yeah but Michael beat Loeb so Michael would make a better rally driver than Loeb right? :rolleyes: That whole event was a joke and fairly boring to watch at that. Most of the divers didnt take it seriously and were just having fun. I can't believe anyone would judge driving ability from that. Even if Michael won every race it would prove nothing in terms of driving ability. The whole event was pretty much a light hearted joke/get together for professional drivers.
haha schuey lover! :rofl:

MS would probably make a great rally driver, but the race was in a F360, so it'd make him a better sports car driver. It's too bad that MS wasn't allowed to drive the rally cars due to contractual agreements. Spec car races like this shows off raw talent, and is a really good indictation of driver skill. Drive 4 different types of cars, completely identical, and good comparison between drivers. They should do a special like this every year with the F1 circus :).

Brings back memories of when Senna beat F1's elite in a MB 190E spec race... look how far it's gotten him.

[rage2]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren
i wouldnt think of it as a big joke or whatever... but no one likes to lose, thats for sure. everyone looked pretty serious when racing, i dont believe that they are going FULL OUT but again, they are there to win.
Quote from the MS press conference...

RoC: Will you try and win though?

M. S.: "Have you seen a race driver when you give him a steering wheel he doesn't give his best. I haven't. I think I'm a race driver too….!"
Here's a screenshot of the action in HD :).

http://www.virgeweb.com/rage2/hd/roc1.jpg

[hyperwhite]

holy shit thats one hell of a stadium they're in. but it looks like it is all tarmac, where did they race the rally cars?

[rage2]

They raced everything in the same venue. Rally cars, F360, and the ROC buggy.

Here's a clip of the MS vs HK race, where MS got knocked out in the final round of the circuit racer's championship.

http://www.virgeweb.com/rage2/misc/roc1sd.zip

[Z_Fan]

Nice vid. Thanks for posting.

MS sucked on the launch. He was a second behind by the first corner. Hahahah...

[iceburns288]

Is it just me, or do those 360s sound amazing...:drool:

We cancelled our HDNet sub a few months ago.:cry:

[rage2]

Interview with Heikki Kovalainen after the race of champions win:


Heikki, you were the youngest driver competing in the ROC and also the least experienced. How did you win?

I was able to adapt to the cars very quickly, which meant I found more grip than the others. Adaptability is definitely one of the keys to success. I also learned the circuit very quickly which helped. But to be honest, I still can't believe it: the other drivers are all very talented, with lots of experience! It's hard to believe I set lap records with every car.

Michael Schumacher said about you, "he has something special". How does that make you feel?

It's very nice! Michael is a unique driver, and it is a real compliment coming from him. I don't know if I have something special, but I know that with a good car and a good team behind me, I am capable of getting good results. I proved it this year in the World Series. To be perfectly honest, when I came up against Michael in the final, I thought I would lose - even if I knew I could make it close. When I was invited to the ROC, I was dreaming of coming up against him. so when I crossed the line in front, I was ecstatic! It was the first, and maybe only, opportunity for me to judge myself against him, so I took the chance and managed to win. I jumped on the roof afterwards to celebrate, and that seemed to go down well with the crowd! Beating Michael was exciting, but I think it was bigger achievement to beat Loeb: I didn't think I had a chance against the World Rally Champion, in a rally car. From my point of view, that was a very strong win.

You are the fastest driver on the planet. That's pretty impressive!

It's a nice way to round off the season! The fact that I was invited to take part in the Race of Champions has brought me to people's attention - the World Series by Nissan did not have much exposure, even though it was a championship at a high level with good racing. I think that having won the Race of Champions will help my popularity more than winning the World Series. But having said that, it won't change my future: the people at Renault have always made good decisions on my behalf. I have been in the Renault Driver Development programme for three years now and I trust them. I am pleased to win this race for them as well.

Can you tell us where you will be driving next year?

I will be in GP2, where I hope to get good results. It's definitely the best championship for me because it will be the final stepping stone to F1. I am very excited about next year! I know there is still a lot for me to learn, but I hope I will be with a good team that will give me a chance to win races and fight for the title.

Crazy stuff, set the fastest lap in each car :eek:.

[hyperwhite]

its gonna be on speed next sunday for all those who missed it. and where the hell did this Heikki Kovalainen guy come from????