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importadrenelin
12-11-2002, 05:30 PM
What would you prefer when modding your engine?
Would you rather go All motor or Forced Induction, ie Turbo, SC?

Personally I prefer ALL MOTOR, but nothing makes sick HP numbers like FI cars. The only thing is I always find it much much harder to get those BIG HP #'s to the ground.....
max_boost
12-11-2002, 05:35 PM
FI man!!!
B18C
12-11-2002, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by importadrenelin
What would you prefer when modding your engine?
Would you rather go All motor or Forced Induction, ie Turbo, SC?

Personally I prefer ALL MOTOR, but nothing makes sick HP numbers like FI cars. The only thing is I always find it much much harder to get those BIG HP #'s to the ground.....

What do you mean you find it "harder to get to the ground"?
three.eighteen.
12-11-2002, 05:51 PM
more money for less numerical HP...it costs huge to get an E36 M3 to about 300-350 whp on n/a setup, but if you go s/c or t/c boost can get you 400+ hp for probably a roughly equal amount of money...but nothing beats a nice all motor powerband...
Mikko
12-11-2002, 06:01 PM
Turbo with Anti-lag [:)]
ConVict
12-11-2002, 07:15 PM
If I could have the same HP numbers out of both I would prefer all motor! But we all know which one creates good numbers... So if you got the money to mod defienitly go F/I !
Just Like I Am :thumbsup:
4wheeldrift
12-11-2002, 07:52 PM
I don't care what it is as long as its got a nice, fat, driveable powerband. Peaky motors suck :thumbsdow
Ekliptix
12-11-2002, 08:14 PM
When I drive a turbo vehicle, it feels like 'fake' power. Probably just because of the lag. I still like it a lot, it is just different.
importadrenelin
12-11-2002, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by B18C


What do you mean you find it "harder to get to the ground"?

IT is harder to get to the ground. Basically you can make 500+ HP but transfering that power to the wheels is very difficult... I know of many Supra's, even Turbo ITR's that are getting no traction through their first 3 gears because the engine is creating such large amount of HP.
Do you understand what I am trying to point out now??
B18C
12-11-2002, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by importadrenelin


IT is harder to get to the ground. Basically you can make 500+ HP but transfering that power to the wheels is very difficult... I know of many Supra's, even Turbo ITR's that are getting no traction through their first 3 gears because the engine is creating such large amount of HP.
Do you understand what I am trying to point out now??

Yup. But I don't see how it is any easier getting traction from a 500hp n/a car.
FiveFreshFish
12-11-2002, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by B18C


Yup. But I don't see how it is any easier getting traction from a 500hp n/a car.

A turbo engine putting out 500 hp will have more torque than a n/a 500 hp engine. Torque is the grunt that gets you going, so you'll have more wheel spin with a turbo engine when compared with a n/a engine of equal hp rating.
4wheeldrift
12-11-2002, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by FiveFreshFish


A turbo engine putting out 500 hp will have more torque than a n/a 500 hp engine. Torque is the grunt that gets you going, so you'll have more wheel spin with a turbo engine when compared with a n/a engine of equal hp rating. Thats a generalization, and not necessarily true.
ConVict
12-11-2002, 10:11 PM
I always assumed a N/A would have more torque ..Hmmm
300rwhp
12-11-2002, 11:42 PM
guys, im all for the all moter V8! I know no one else is but thats how you get real NA power, and enough tourque to give you traction problems.
rage2
12-12-2002, 12:09 AM
FI's the only way to fly! :D
Sykes
12-12-2002, 12:25 AM
Either or... :thumbsup:
Just so long as the car is streetable and predicatble...
buh_buh
12-12-2002, 12:56 AM
If I had unlimited money, I would go N/A.
But FI sounds so damn nice!! haha.
Ajay
12-12-2002, 01:42 AM
I'm all about the NA but like others said on this board....FI is what produces the numbers!! After I do my swap I would love to build my B16A up to crazy specs but that'll just take too much time and money I don't got while turboing will give me sweet ass power as well.

Can't go wrong with a B16A2 equipped DX hatch that's turbo'd!
Superesc
12-12-2002, 01:45 AM
FI... for my little engine that could... :D
James
12-12-2002, 05:37 AM
Originally posted by buh_buh
If I had unlimited money, I would go N/A.
But FI sounds so damn nice!! haha.


:werd: ..:D
darknight
12-12-2002, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by importadrenelin
What would you prefer when modding your engine?
Would you rather go All motor or Forced Induction, ie Turbo, SC?

Personally I prefer ALL MOTOR, but nothing makes sick HP numbers like FI cars. The only thing is I always find it much much harder to get those BIG HP #'s to the ground.....


Its called not buying an ass suspension set up and running better than motormaster tires.
three.eighteen.
12-12-2002, 07:18 PM
umm dude, importadrenelin owns his own import tuning company...im pretty sure he doesnt have ass suspension or motomaster tires
5.9 R/T
12-12-2002, 07:36 PM
FI offers better street ability and huge numbers, but nothing is more impressive then saying you have 500+hp ALL MOTOR.
importadrenelin
12-12-2002, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by three.eighteen.
umm dude, importadrenelin owns his own import tuning company...im pretty sure he doesnt have ass suspension or motomaster tires
At the time, Koni KYB Adjustables on H&R Springs & I cannot even call the rubber I was running but it was Z-rated.
ninspeed
12-12-2002, 10:09 PM
FI is the way to go :D :D.. for the $$ when it come to imports turbo is cheeper.. but dont forget whats even cheeper than that... NO2 :D
three.eighteen.
12-13-2002, 02:27 AM
nitrogen dioxide??
2000impreza
12-13-2002, 02:56 AM
i thought nitrous is N20 - dinitrogen oxide. two part nitrogen and one part oxygen.

i'd go forced induction. supercharger or turbo..... NA is nice but cost a lot more money in the end.....
szw
12-13-2002, 03:11 AM
its n20...but its not called dinitrogen oxide its just called nitrous oxide. At least i think so...I don't remember ever saying dinitrogen in chem class!!
4wheeldrift
12-13-2002, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by szw
its n20...but its not called dinitrogen oxide its just called nitrous oxide. At least i think so...I don't remember ever saying dinitrogen in chem class!! It's proper chemical name would be dinitrogen mono-oxide, but its common name is nitrous oxide.
Redlyne_mr2
12-13-2002, 02:56 PM
How could you not want FI...if you want to talk about lag then lets talk about NA cars, vtec, vvti, ztec all dont kick in until fairly far up the rpm range which makes the car feel like a dog unless you rev the crap out of it. Now if were talking NA large diplacement engines then thats another story.
HillBilly
12-13-2002, 02:59 PM
Gotta love the wistle a couple of turbos gives you when they spool up.
350hp_or_Bust
12-13-2002, 03:41 PM
Why is it an either or question??? I say do both! :D

If you're going all motor though, you better have the displacement to work with. I wouldn't go all motor with anything less than 3.0L

Just imagine ... a 500hp motor .. all motor, with twin turbos strapped on!:eek: :hitit:
Joe Malms
12-14-2002, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
How could you not want FI...if you want to talk about lag then lets talk about NA cars, vtec, vvti, ztec all dont kick in until fairly far up the rpm range which makes the car feel like a dog unless you rev the crap out of it. Now if were talking NA large diplacement engines then thats another story.

well said
4wheeldrift
12-14-2002, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
How could you not want FI...if you want to talk about lag then lets talk about NA cars, vtec, vvti, ztec all dont kick in until fairly far up the rpm range which makes the car feel like a dog unless you rev the crap out of it. Now if were talking NA large diplacement engines then thats another story. Ummm, not every NA car is cammed like an F1 machine...
fast95pony
12-15-2002, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by 350hp_or_Bust

Just imagine ... a 500hp motor .. all motor, with twin turbos strapped on!:eek: :hitit:


:dunno:

...All motor,with twin turbos strapped on ?? mmmkay...


I'm partial to FI..;)

357rwhp/382 rwtq....:thumbsup:

Alan