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gromet
01-27-2005, 04:02 PM
well im gonna upgrade to the type R's (going in a ported box)and i need a good powerful amp that wont run the bat dead dry.lets hear the input.

npham
01-27-2005, 05:52 PM
You dont throw a good powerful amp at a Type R. They will burn VC's. How much do you have to spend would be a better start.

BumpinTalon
01-27-2005, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by npham
You dont throw a good powerful amp at a Type R. They will burn VC's. How much do you have to spend would be a better start.

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you don't want anymore then 300 watts per sub because they cook pretty easy with any more then that, unless you watch the gain and volume carefully. if they are dual 2 ohm voice coils, you could get an older Rockford 500bd or 501bd, or an MTX 1601d or whatever the name was. I, personally, would take the MTX over the Rockford though. they usually test somewhere between 650-700 watts so you'd need to make sure you aren't pushing the subs too hard. you can find them used for like $250.
if you want to buy new, try a Phoenix Gold Octane R 8.0:1... it's about 500 watts RMS, probably slightly more then that if PG builds it like all their other amps.
if they are dual 4 ohm coils then you'll need to look into two channel amps instead... there are tons of those.

7thgenvic
01-27-2005, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by BumpinTalon


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you don't want anymore then 300 watts per sub because they cook pretty easy with any more then that, unless you watch the gain and volume carefully. if they are dual 2 ohm voice coils, you could get an older Rockford 500bd or 501bd, or an MTX 1601d or whatever the name was. I, personally, would take the MTX over the Rockford though. they usually test somewhere between 650-700 watts so you'd need to make sure you aren't pushing the subs too hard. you can find them used for like $250.
if you want to buy new, try a Phoenix Gold Octane R 8.0:1... it's about 500 watts RMS, probably slightly more then that if PG builds it like all their other amps.
if they are dual 4 ohm coils then you'll need to look into two channel amps instead... there are tons of those.

really???? i have two MVR 500 to each sub and nothing!

npham
01-27-2005, 08:34 PM
what kind of load are those amps seeing?

gromet
01-28-2005, 02:52 PM
well price range wise i would like to spen 300-500 if its like 600 post it anyway.Now this is what confuses me i dont know weather to get the :confused: (2+2ohm or the 4+4ohm) :confused: now i would like ot run one amp too (if its possible)

BigBearWest
01-28-2005, 04:23 PM
If you got 403honda.com there is a guy selling a mtx 8001d for 450 that would power a typer really well

BumpinTalon
01-28-2005, 06:01 PM
gromet - if you want the MTX 8001d, you will need the 2+2 ohm subs. that way you can run the pair of them with like 1500 watts :devil: but you have to keep the gain turned down a lot or you'll kill them really really fast.
7thgencivic - yeah fucking right. four 500 watts alpines to power two Type Rs?

BigBearWest
01-28-2005, 06:17 PM
7thgen says he has two of them. i also have two of those amps and they work great with the type r's

fresh
01-28-2005, 06:35 PM
Type R's will take whatever you give em. i pumped 600 watts rms each into my 12 inch type R's they were in a .75 cubic foot sealed box and man did they love it. i 've even seen my friends pump 1000watts rms and the subs loved it, mind you they probubly wouldent last too long at that power

BumpinTalon
01-28-2005, 10:53 PM
okay, just because you have 1000 watts does not mean it is going to be louder then 300 watts, it just means you have 700 watts of power you are totally wasting because if you actually gave a Type R 1,000 watts on ANY song, it will fry badly after five seconds tops. as soon as you start hitting the limits of the sub and it starts to distort, you are going to murder that sub pretty fast... and common sense says that you and your friend both turn it down when you hear distortion, so your sub taking 600 or 1000 watts is no miracle considering you are only utilizing 50% or 35% of the power your amp is CAPABLE of producing.
and 7thgencivic said "I have two MRV 500s to each Type R" which sounds like one amp per voice coil for two subs...

BigBearWest
01-28-2005, 11:35 PM
My Bad

fresh
01-29-2005, 12:15 AM
iam not saying that 1000watts is better all i was suggesting is that Type R's will take what ever power you give em and perform quite well.

npham
01-29-2005, 03:48 AM
hahahahahha of course fresh has to drive a cav too.

You my friend are a newb. What are you think. If you wired a Type R to a final load of 1, strapped a JL 1000/1(assuming a stable electrical system) you would own a Type R badged paper weight.

Try doing a sweep from like 20 hz to 100 hz and see what happens...Plus you had your type R's sealed and in small boxes. Of course it will handle more power.

What kind of amps are you and your friend running?

Hell, music alone should be good enough to fry it.

Phat_Tercel_YO!
01-29-2005, 03:51 AM
We are going to be running 1500 watts to the new Type R's in a truck pretty soon for competition. I am pretty confident they will handle it.

npham
01-29-2005, 11:31 AM
type R isn't really a competition sub there phat....have fun I guess

A790
01-29-2005, 12:35 PM
There's no way these Subs can handle all the power they are being given by you people... I've cooked Type-R's with 500 watts of power.

Mckenzie
01-29-2005, 01:26 PM
The v12 amps are great. I am on my second type r/v12 class d amp combo and have had nothing but compliments on how it sounds. They are well made subs and amps.

Phat_Tercel_YO!
01-29-2005, 01:38 PM
No, it's not really designated at that, but you'd be surprised at how well they can actually do.

Besides, there's a difference between choosing an ideal setup, and someone giving you 4 amps and 4 subs and anything else you need to make something loud. :p

BumpinTalon
01-29-2005, 04:07 PM
yeah but your application is completely different from a daily driver... you might burp them on 1500 watts and they'll be fine, but daily driving there is no reason to give any sub anything more then RMS power.

Street_Soldier
01-29-2005, 04:20 PM
i run an mrv-t757 and it sounds good.

gromet
01-31-2005, 03:09 PM
thanks for thye input on this but could u run 2 12"type S from the 8001 mtx amp. i belive u could right. im gonna go with the 8001 myself and the type R and let my friend go with the type S
:D

7thgenvic
02-01-2005, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by BumpinTalon
gromet - if you want the MTX 8001d, you will need the 2+2 ohm subs. that way you can run the pair of them with like 1500 watts :devil: but you have to keep the gain turned down a lot or you'll kill them really really fast.
7thgencivic - yeah fucking right. four 500 watts alpines to power two Type Rs?


many of the members have seen my trunk!!! the trunk was actually in PAS mag a couple months ago! i have different equipment in there now!
and i said 2 amps not 4! hahah

BigBearWest
02-01-2005, 02:19 AM
Originally posted by 7thgenvic



many of the members have seen my trunk!!! the trunk was actually in PAS mag a couple months ago! i have different equipment in there now!
and i said 2 amps not 4! hahah

That is what i thought

BumpinTalon
02-01-2005, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by 7thgenvic


really???? i have two MVR 500 to each sub and nothing!

the way you wrote that makes it sound like youhave two amps to each sub... so with two subs that makes four amps. "one MRV500 to each sub" would be the right way to write that.

gromet
02-01-2005, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by 7thgenvic



many of the members have seen my trunk!!! the trunk was actually in PAS mag a couple months ago! i have different equipment in there now!
and i said 2 amps not 4! hahah


do u have any pics i dont think we get PAS mag down in florida.