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86max

03-18-2005, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by buh_buh
20 minutes tops

I'm guessing you've done this many times before? :D

Originally posted by 1-Bar

and Andrew, I called and its about an 8 hour job for pulling the motor in and out....

Cool, thanks man.
I guess 8h isn't bad. One garage quoted her $400 to swap the trannies. It sounds like too good of a deal, but she knows them, so maybe it's legit. I doubt theres too much that can go wrong
:dunno:

buh_buh

03-19-2005, 01:17 PM

haha no i was just kidding.
400 for a tranny swap sounds like a good deal to me though but from the sounds of it they've never worked on a Prelude.

D-Man

03-20-2005, 01:07 PM

Anyone here have a mugen header?

Just wondering what size cat your using and what you used for a house flange (between header & cat)?

I'm confused on the size, 2.25"ID or 2.5"ID...

D-Man

03-21-2005, 10:04 PM

Chris, I know you can answer this for me. I want to find a specific part but I don't know the part number, is there a website that I can do a search?

Primer_Drift

03-21-2005, 10:21 PM

What is the part? I have access to Honda EPS..

rc2002

03-21-2005, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by D-Man
Anyone here have a mugen header?

Just wondering what size cat your using and what you used for a house flange (between header & cat)?

I'm confused on the size, 2.25"ID or 2.5"ID...

Heheh. I cut my cat out. From the header straight into 2.5" piping... :) Does the USDM Mugen header come with a flange on the outlet?

1-Bar

03-22-2005, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by D-Man
Chris, I know you can answer this for me. I want to find a specific part but I don't know the part number, is there a website that I can do a search?

here you go:

http://www.slhondaparts.com/browse.asp

1-Bar

03-22-2005, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by Skyline_Addict
looking for some interior mods...let me know what you got and i'll make you an offer!

anyone have this titanium style trim?

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/619000-619999/619338_7_full.jpg

why don't you just paint your interiror pieces??

D-Man

03-22-2005, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by richardchan2002

Heheh. I cut my cat out. From the header straight into 2.5" piping... :) Does the USDM Mugen header come with a flange on the outlet?

So, are you using a test pipe? What did you use for a gasket between the header and test pipe?

Yes, the mugen header (usdm conversion) has an outlet flange.

D-Man

03-22-2005, 11:09 AM

I'm looking for the parts that I would need to remove from the stock trunk and install on the cf trunk.

I'd rather buy new parts rather than removing the ones off the stock trunk.

I think all I really need is the trunk latch and perhaps those rubber stops...

I bought that spring tool remover from honda so I hope I can completely remove the stock trunk this weekend...

rc2002

03-22-2005, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by D-Man

So, are you using a test pipe? What did you use for a gasket between the header and test pipe?

Yes, the mugen header (usdm conversion) has an outlet flange.

Pretty much. The 2.5" piping has an O2 bung welded in and is welded directly to the flex pipe. No flanges!

Primer_Drift

03-22-2005, 07:31 PM

oops nm re-read your post.

Stopper tailgate (rubber stops #14)
78428-sX0-000

trunk lock (44)
74851-s84-a11 (should include parts 45,46,47)

After looking at the trunk it looks pretty complicated to get all that crap out :P

buh_buh

03-22-2005, 08:12 PM

its not that hard to take it out.
Mine was taken out in like 10 minutes in a parking lot.
You would also need the cable and if the keyhole is still there you would need the lock too

1-Bar

03-22-2005, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by buh_buh
its not that hard to take it out.
Mine was taken out in like 10 minutes in a parking lot.
You would also need the cable and if the keyhole is still there you would need the lock too

me and Richard swapped trunks pretty quick, ~15mins tops....

buh_buh

03-23-2005, 12:27 AM

I call BS.
You got a video + stopwatch?:D

rc2002

03-23-2005, 01:12 AM

heheh. No BS.... Mad trunk swapping skills yo. haha.

We'll videotape it next time. :)

D-Man

03-23-2005, 09:45 AM

We'll, the gemini trunk doesn't have the keyhole so I don't have to worry about the lock or cable.

The oem spoiler won't be going back on so I can coil up and hide the wiring harness.

I plan to remove the trunk tension rods.

So, really, I think the only thing that I would need to replace would be the actually latch. I can tell on the drawing what part number that is...

buh_buh

03-23-2005, 10:04 AM

you'll still need the cable so the trunk will actually pop when you pull the lever. If you remove both tension rods, the trunk will keep falling down everytime you open it and will be annoying as hell.

D-Man

03-23-2005, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by buh_buh
If you remove both tension rods, the trunk will keep falling down everytime you open it and will be annoying as hell.

So, do I only remove one of them? I don't want the trunk to whip open...

When I saw your car last, did you have your trunk tension rods removed? I recall your trunk whipping open when you released the trunk...

Ya, I knew I'd need the cable...

D-Man

03-27-2005, 10:43 PM

Okay, I removed my stock trunk on the weekend with all associated wiring. I also removed 1 tension rod as well. Went pretty smoothly...

buh buh, did you have any problems with the alignment or the trunk not opening when you installed the cf trunk?

1-Bar

03-28-2005, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by buh_buh
I call BS.
You got a video + stopwatch?:D

I actually do, I time all the mods I do and see if I can better it each time!!

Originally posted by D-Man
buh buh, did you have any problems with the alignment or the trunk not opening when you installed the cf trunk?

he probably did....my stock OEM Honda trunk didn't line up properly the first time, but it did open and close normally.

Your CF trunk can't open?? Perhaps you put the release cable on backwards or something....

buh_buh

03-28-2005, 08:54 PM

well fitment wasn't great, but I made with what I had.
No problems opening or shutting though.

D-Man

03-28-2005, 10:11 PM

Why wasn't fitment great? Was it just the fact that you swapped it in a parking lot?

There doesn't seem to be that many adjustment options other than those 4 bolts.

buh_buh

03-28-2005, 10:14 PM

no just a crappy trunk. Nothing to do with install.
You can adjust the height of the hinge if need be.

1-Bar

03-29-2005, 01:01 AM

Originally posted by D-Man
Why wasn't fitment great? Was it just the fact that you swapped it in a parking lot?

There doesn't seem to be that many adjustment options other than those 4 bolts.

when you buy aftermarket body parts, fitament will always be an issue, unless we're talking about like Mugen parts (ie. parts made in conjunction with the original manufacuter)

rc2002

03-29-2005, 01:05 AM

Yup. All you can really do is adjust those four bolts and the two rubber stoppers. Other adjustments might be a bit trickier...

EK 2.0

03-29-2005, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by buh_buh
no just a crappy trunk. Nothing to do with install.
You can adjust the height of the hinge if need be.

Originally posted by richardchan2002
Yup. All you can really do is adjust those four bolts and the two rubber stoppers. Other adjustments might be a bit trickier...

plus, phone books and a hot day can help issues out a lil bit too

buh_buh

03-29-2005, 10:15 AM

yea I've heard that too. Tried it last summer, didn't really help that much though. But I think mine is more of an issue with the tension bar pushing up the one side than it is crappy fitment of the trunk.

1-Bar

03-29-2005, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by EK 2.0
plus, phone books and a hot day can help issues out a lil bit too

I can back that up, it worked on my hood last summer...my passenger's side was up a little bit, overnight and into the morning with some phone books and no more problems.

Also doing the same thing with my twisted spoiler!!

buh_buh

03-29-2005, 12:15 PM

yea i think im just gonna buy a new tension bar for the other side and take out the one that's already in there and see if it makes a difference. But I tried putting tons of shit on the one side of the trunk last summer (like 100lbs) and no dice.

D-Man

03-29-2005, 01:55 PM

I don't think aftermarket cf trunks come with pre-drilled holes to re-install those rubber bumpb stops.

buh_buh, what's wrong with the tension bar you have in your car right now? Is it damaged?

buh_buh

03-29-2005, 01:55 PM

no i cut one of them off so my trunk wouldn't shoot open so theres only a bar on one side, and the side that its on pushes that corner of the trunk up.

D-Man

03-29-2005, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by buh_buh
no i cut one of them off so my trunk wouldn't shoot open so theres only a bar on one side, and the side that its on pushes that corner of the trunk up.

I removed one too so will I have the same issue with one side being pushed up? If that's the case, I might just remove the other. I don't care if the trunk doesn't stay open, just as long as it opens period...

buh_buh

03-29-2005, 02:02 PM

I wouldn't remove both, its so annoying having a trunk that doesn't stay open when you have 4 bags of groceries in your hands. My winter beater's trunk doesnt stay open and I don't even bother using it.

D-Man

03-29-2005, 02:08 PM

We'll see once I get the trunk on. If it's not fitting properly, then the other tension rod is history.

I don't think my trunk will have the holes to screw in those 2 rubber bump stops. Does yours?

buh_buh

03-29-2005, 02:12 PM

mine does but its not a gemini

D-Man

03-29-2005, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by buh_buh
mine does but its not a gemini

Just checked their website again and in the picture it does show it having the rubber bump stops installed...

DJ Lazy

03-29-2005, 06:29 PM

No point in starting a new thread, so since this is a lude thread, I will just post up in here.

Does anyone know if this is a stock front end that has been modded or if it is a kit?

I absolutely LOVE it!!!! :love: :poosie: :drool:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/JDigital/DSC_0018.jpg

D-Man

03-29-2005, 06:35 PM

The bumper looks stock but it seems like the nostrils have been molded into the one piece headlights...

buh_buh

03-29-2005, 06:48 PM

that's a 4th gen Mugen front

DJ Lazy

03-29-2005, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by buh_buh
that's a 4th gen Mugen front

Sweet.... gonna have to order this... :love: :D

buh_buh

03-29-2005, 06:51 PM

good luck. Super rare item and discontinued years ago.
I've seen a couple fiberglass replicas on ebay though.

DJ Lazy

03-29-2005, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by buh_buh
good luck. Super rare item and discontinued years ago.
I've seen a couple fiberglass replicas on ebay though.

:(

Damn, thats not good to hear... Would be so pimp to find an original, not a huge fan of f/g kits...

EDIT: I did find one on ebay for $200.US plus $155US shipping... but its fiberglass. :(

1-Bar

03-29-2005, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by buh_buh
that's a 4th gen Mugen front

doh...beat me to it, gl finding those protective housing for the headlights, only mugen makes'em

Oh yeah...Darcy and Kev, man PM each other or something...hahahha

EK 2.0

03-30-2005, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by 1-Bar
Oh yeah...Darcy and Kev, man PM each other or something...hahahha

No, no...I like the CF Drama...it's like a mini "ricer" Soap Opera...:D

buh_buh

03-30-2005, 12:38 AM

haha its a ricer dilemma.

D-Man

03-30-2005, 08:29 AM

Just a question and this has nothing to do with CF (cough*Chris*cough).

Is there any luders from Calgary that want to show at either DTP or SCN that aren't affiliated with a team?

The reason I ask this is that the EPC is putting together a show team and would be more than happy to accept any show worthy ludes from Calgary... I know Chris & Kevin will most likely stick with beyond :whipped:

buh_buh

03-30-2005, 10:22 AM

fuck beyond! http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/fingers.gif
I don't even think I'm gonna do any shows again this year.

Superesc

03-30-2005, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by buh_buh
fuck beyond! http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/fingers.gif
I don't even think I'm gonna do any shows again this year.

:bullshit:

D-Man

03-30-2005, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by buh_buh
fuck beyond! http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/fingers.gif
I don't even think I'm gonna do any shows again this year.

Why not team up with the EPC:thumbsup:

EK 2.0

03-30-2005, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by buh_buh
fuck beyond! http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/fingers.gif
I don't even think I'm gonna do any shows again this year.

Originally posted by Superesc

:bullshit:

I second that B.S.:bullshit:

buh_buh

03-30-2005, 02:16 PM

take your BS flags and shove em up your ass!!! haha.
Shows are too stressful/annoying. And if I do enter, I already have an obligation to enter with Beyond (and my friends).

littledan

03-30-2005, 05:38 PM

i'm thinking of picking up a 5th gen lude soon. what should i be on the look out for? any major probs? i'm looking at getting a 97 up base. i don't want sh... but is base avail with leather?

D-Man

03-30-2005, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by littledan
i'm thinking of picking up a 5th gen lude soon. what should i be on the look out for? any major probs?

I'd look for a private sale. Things I look for is how many km's, overall condition of exterior & interior, was it serviced regularily by a honda dealership (ask for proof of service records), was techincal service bulletins and recalls addressed, was the windshield replaced, etc... I don't think there is anything major you should be worried about... Definitely have it inspected mechanically by a trusted mechanic.

Primer_Drift

03-30-2005, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by littledan
i'm looking at getting a 97 up base. i don't want sh... but is base avail with leather?

Yeah its available in the base.. its called an SE :poosie:
Leather heated seats with CF-like dash accents.. mines an '01 I think they started in the last production year of 2000 though for the SE.

Only major problems I have encountered are the stock (1 season crap) michelin tires, and faulty timing belt tensioner.

rc2002

03-30-2005, 11:31 PM

As far as I know, the SE was only available in 2001.

In 2000, there was only the base (cloth seats, no ATTS) and the SH (leather, ATTS) models.

*edit*
Just checked.
During its final five-year run Honda Canada sold three versions: the base and Type SH were offered through 2000, then in 2001 the Type SH was replaced by the Prelude SE.

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jc/97-01prelude.htm

buh_buh

03-30-2005, 11:41 PM

Leather is only offered in 97-00 SH, and 01 SE. the 97-00 base had only cloth seats, and in 2001 only SE was available. SE is the same as a base, except with the SH goodies (cf dashkit, leather shift knob, leather seats and some other junk.

Dan you might be better off buying a base, then buying some leathers off someone. I actually know someone who is selling a set of leathers right now. Good luck:)

Skyline_Addict

03-31-2005, 12:00 AM

yep.
any 5th gen prelude enthusiast knows that ATTS + modifications (particularly force inducted) = nighmare.

1-Bar

03-31-2005, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by littledan
i'm thinking of picking up a 5th gen lude soon. what should i be on the look out for? any major probs? i'm looking at getting a 97 up base. i don't want sh... but is base avail with leather?

screw the leather and get some recaros or something....hahaha, no major probs, unless you get an auto and you might have tranny problems....

and aftermarket support is kinda nay....no one likes the h-series motors compared to the beeees. Oh and for body mods, OEM honda or mugen/replica.....

when I got mine, leather was an option....for $1000

Oh yeah, Kev I call the 3rd :bullshit:

rorn

04-01-2005, 12:15 AM

Originally posted by 1-Bar

ahhh....I see, I see....

alright, the list for the meet goes:

1-bar
buh_buh
richardchan2002
vtec
skyline_addict
ryder_23
shadowz
MM99lude
primer_drift

tentative date set for May....Hey Richard, when are you coming back??

Lurk, lurk.................................................................................

If you guys are still having a meet PM me

J.

1-Bar

04-01-2005, 12:21 AM

list updated:

1-bar
buh_buh
richardchan2002
vtec
skyline_addict
ryder_23
shadowz
MM99lude
primer_drift
rorn

D-Man

04-01-2005, 08:30 AM

Is this a calgary meet? When is it taking place?

D-Man

04-01-2005, 08:59 AM

BTW, anyone interested in those mugen replica 5th gen posters? I can probably get some more if anyone is seriously interested.

The cost is $20 and payment would need to be made upfront before placing the order...

EK 2.0

04-01-2005, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by 1-Bar
list updated:

1-bar
buh_buh
richardchan2002
vtec
skyline_addict
ryder_23
shadowz
MM99lude
primer_drift
rorn

hey hey hey...why no love for the EK??

Mr.Touchdown

04-01-2005, 08:34 PM

ill be in for a lude meet, count me in.

1-Bar

04-02-2005, 01:23 AM

Updated list:

1-bar
buh_buh
richardchan2002
vtec
skyline_addict
ryder_23
shadowz
MM99lude
primer_drift
rorn
Mr. Touchdown

Pending:
EK 2.0 (has the right motor, in need of a lude shell)

1-Bar

04-02-2005, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by D-Man
Is this a calgary meet? When is it taking place?

prelude meet taking place before the big show on May 28th.....

D-Man

04-02-2005, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by 1-Bar

prelude meet taking place before the big show on May 28th.....

Sweet! The EPC crew will be in town that weekend so can we participate or is this a calgary only meet?

Is there specific details about the meet somewhere?

EK 2.0

04-02-2005, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by 1-Bar
Updated list:

Pending:
EK 2.0 (has the right motor, in need of a lude shell)

pfffft...with my taillights so far ahead of you guys you wont know if it's a Lude or not...haha:burnout:

Kevin's car won't be done yet right??

Skyline_Addict

04-02-2005, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by EK 2.0

pfffft...with my taillights so far ahead of you guys you wont know if it's a Lude or not...haha:burnout:

Kevin's car won't be done yet right??

:eek: you have h22, arif?

rc2002

04-02-2005, 08:09 PM

Nope, not H22 but very close. :D

And Darcy, anyone who wants in on the meet can come! Details have yet to be worked out. -> Thank Chris for organizing!

1-Bar

04-02-2005, 09:54 PM

http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82338

here you go, all discussion on the meet will be found here.

D-Man

04-03-2005, 07:28 AM

Hmmmm, I just realized that most of us from Edmonton won't be rolling down to Calgary until the day before DTP (May 27th), probably sometime in the afternoon. I'm not sure if we would be able to participate afterall since we have to get ready for the show:whipped:

D-Man

04-03-2005, 05:41 PM

Has anyone changed their tensioner from auto to manual? Thinking about getting this done when I get my car serviced after taking it out of storage...

EK 2.0

04-03-2005, 06:26 PM

EK needs a tune up...

...and since I can use H Series plugs and wires...I am asking what everyone uses or likes as a whole...I know the boosted guys will or I should say SHOULD be using a heat range colder...but, for wires, what do we like, heard good or bad about...any useful input is very much appreciated...

buh_buh

04-03-2005, 07:05 PM

I have an extra set of NGKs that are 1 heatrange colder than stock if you want them. Not sure of the part # though (I think they're PZFR6F), they're in my room in Calgary. I'll trade them for a bowl of pho.

1-Bar

04-03-2005, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by D-Man
Has anyone changed their tensioner from auto to manual? Thinking about getting this done when I get my car serviced after taking it out of storage...

Just do it already....In the long run you'll have less hassels with the auto tensioner, its pretty much a no brainer

Originally posted by buh_buh
I have an extra set of NGKs that are 1 heatrange colder than stock if you want them. Not sure of the part # though (I think they're PZFR6F), they're in my room in Calgary. I'll trade them for a bowl of pho.

hmmmm......

Skyline_Addict

04-03-2005, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by richardchan2002
Nope, not H22 but very close. :D

And Darcy, anyone who wants in on the meet can come! Details have yet to be worked out. -> Thank Chris for organizing!

very close? then what is it exactly?

buh_buh

04-03-2005, 07:26 PM

its not THAT close.
Only 1 match in the engine code.:poosie:

1-Bar

04-03-2005, 08:01 PM

^the head is the same as an h22, the block is like an h22 but not "big" enough

rc2002

04-03-2005, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by buh_buh
I have an extra set of NGKs that are 1 heatrange colder than stock if you want them. Not sure of the part # though (I think they're PZFR6F), they're in my room in Calgary. I'll trade them for a bowl of pho.

I'm using the NGK BCPR7ES. They're supposed to be colder than stock, but they might be more than one heat range colder.

*edit* Stock are ZFR6F-11. :)

Skyline_Addict

04-03-2005, 08:52 PM

a block "like" an h22, how does that work?

buh_buh

04-03-2005, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by richardchan2002

I'm using the NGK BCPR7ES. They're supposed to be colder than stock, but they might be more than one heat range colder.
that is one heatrange colder.

Just checked and mine are ZFR7F-11 Arif.

EK 2.0

04-03-2005, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by richardchan2002
I'm using the NGK BCPR7ES. They're supposed to be colder than stock, but they might be more than one heat range colder.

*edit* Stock are ZFR6F-11. :)

Thanks for the input...I researched the stockies...and yeah will probably end up going with those...but now...do they work great...I mean yes a plug is essentially a plug, but I mean are there anything better, or worse...heard good or bad...too scared to post a thread on H-T as they flame pretty hard...and up in hurr I am almost un-touchable...I said ALMOST guys...;)

Originally posted by Skyline_Addict
a block "like" an h22, how does that work?

Terence, it's similar in design to an H22...but, I am only 2 liters...Higher compression...but can use all the H Series top end goodies (headers, intakes, gaskets, plugs, wires...and...ITB's:burnout:)

Originally posted by buh_buh
that is one heatrange colder.

Just checked and mine are ZFR7F-11 Arif.

thanks again Kev and Richard...the info is greatly appreciated...but now...what about those pesky wires...I know Kevin you are using stock Honda's...but Mangacores...I had them in Cyclone and I notices a lil more throttle response...would it hurt to invest in a set of those...plus I mean Spilner loves and endorses them...haha..

rc2002

04-03-2005, 10:10 PM

Hey Arif, apparently the Denso Iridiums are the plugs to get for NA motors. Check out this spark plug tech guide from superhonda:

http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129793

As far as wires go, I have the Jackson Racing ones. You might want to try to blue NGK ones. Apparently those are supposed to be decent. Although I have heard that sometimes it causes interference with the radio? :dunno: Don't know how true that rumor is though.

Team_Mclaren

04-04-2005, 01:59 AM

hey lude people, got a question for you.

My cousin is really interested in buying a fifth gen for his first car (baller).. since he doesnt know how to drive stick, im doing all the test drives for him. He has a few lined up, ranging from 11900 to 14000. My question is, is there anything special to look for when test driving, checking out the car??? Ulimately he'll get the car inspected before purshasing. But are there anything special to check for other than the regular stuff?

thx in advance

D-Man

04-04-2005, 07:34 AM

Originally posted by 1-Bar

Just do it already....In the long run you'll have less hassels with the auto tensioner, its pretty much a no brainer

hmmmm......

Thanks for cracking the whip biatch:whipped:

1-Bar

04-04-2005, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by D-Man

Thanks for cracking the whip biatch:whipped:

hahaha....get a move on!!

Skyline_Addict

04-04-2005, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren
hey lude people, got a question for you.

My cousin is really interested in buying a fifth gen for his first car (baller).. since he doesnt know how to drive stick, im doing all the test drives for him. He has a few lined up, ranging from 11900 to 14000. My question is, is there anything special to look for when test driving, checking out the car??? Ulimately he'll get the car inspected before purshasing. But are there anything special to check for other than the regular stuff?

thx in advance

from my experience in shopping for preludes second hand, it is not a difficult thing to find a well-cared for prelude. most if not many prelude owners take extreme car of their cars. judging from the price ranges you are looking at, you should first, look at the condition of the car. the lower price may not necessarily mean there is anything wrong with it. there are other factors...the car hasn't had the 100,000 KMish tune up (timing belt, water pump change), owner wants it gone asap, which could attribute to the lower price of the car. remember, the price difference between someone who wants to sell right away, and someone who doesn't mind selling it later on can be as much as $1000 + dollars (if we are comparing 2 very identical cars)

depending on the year and the KM on the car, find out if it has had the timing belt etc. changed. have it mechanically inspected and then add up all the numbers. the 100,000 km tune up costs around $500 dollars.