Calgary's Official 5th Gen Lude Thread

[buh_buh]

no.
42 offset is too low, and 225/40 is too wide.
225/35 is ok, but 42 offset will rub.

[DJ Lazy]

Originally posted by buh_buh
no.
42 offset is too low, and 225/40 is too wide.
225/35 is ok, but 42 offset will rub.

what about 215/35?

[1-Bar]

taken from absoluteprelude.com

Thought everyone would like a “What works with the 4th gen” sticky

Tire Sizes
15” Rims
205/55 – OEM and recommended 15” size
205/50 - larger contact patch, slightly smaller diameter
215/50 - larger contact patch, diameter is slightly smaller
225/45 – 20mm larger contact patch, smaller diameter (some tire brands are slightly larger than 225. these may require 7” rims)
225/50 - 20mm larger contact patch, larger diameter (some tire brands are slightly larger than 225. these may require 7” rims)

16” Rims
205/50 – 5th Gen OEM and recommended 16” size
215/45 - larger contact patch
215/50 - larger contact patch, diameter is slightly larger
225/45 – 20mm larger contact patch, smaller diameter (some tire brands are slightly larger than 225. these may require 7” rims)

17” Rims
205/40 - 205 size is not recommended for tires over 7"
215/40 - larger contact patch, recommended tire size
215/45 - larger contact patch, diameter is slightly larger
225/40 – 20mm larger contact patch

18” Rims
215/35 - larger contact patch, consider for show use only (very little protection for your rims)
215/40 - larger contact patch, diameter is slightly larger
225/35 – 20mm larger contact patch, recommended tire size

Stockies
4th Gen = 6.5" wide rim 55mm
The 4th Gen comes stock w/ 205/55/15 tires

Offset
6.5" wide rims
Less than +38mm - Chance of rubbing the outside lip of the wheel well with this offset.
+38mm to +55mm - Recommended offset for 6.5" rims.
Larger than +55mm - Chance of rubbing the inside lining of the wheel well with this offset.

7" wide rims
Less than +38mm - Not suggested
+38mm to +41mm – Not suggested if you plan on lowering. Chance of rubbing the outside lip of the wheel well with this offset.
+42mm to +44mm – This may or may not work, depends on if you are lowered. Chance of rubbing the outside lip of the wheel well with this offset.
+45mm to +50mm - Recommended offset for 7" rims.
Larger than +51mm - Not suggested. Chance of rubbing the inside lining of the wheel well with this offset.

7.5" wide rims
Less than +40mm - Not suggested
+40mm to +43mm - This may or may not work, depends on if you are lowered. Chance of rubbing the outside lip of the wheel well with this offset.
+44mm to +47mm - This may or may not work, depends on if you are lowered. Chance of rubbing the outside lip of the wheel well with this offset.
+48mm to +52mm - Recommended Offsets for 7.5" rims.
Larger than +53mm - Not suggested. Chance of rubbing the inside lining of the wheel well with this offset.

Stock Lug Pattern
4th Generation - 4x114.3

This is for informational purposes only. AP.com is not responsible for the validity of this information, use at your own risk. If you see any errors, let me know. Thanks.

sources: prelude.vtec.net, tire rack, Car & Driver, Tire Calculator.

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by 1-Bar
taken from absoluteprelude.com

Thought everyone would like a “What works with the 4th gen” sticky




what about EK Sticky??...haha...j/k Chris...

[buh_buh]

START YOUR OWN DAMN THREAD!

[Primer_Drift]

:hijack:
Arrrrrghh! 4g lude thread pirate!!

[rc2002]

Haha. Forget the 4th gen thread, DJ Lazy needs his own thread! Where are all the other 4th gen luders? :D

[1-Bar]

just him and shadowz...looks like they have double the population of resident EK F20b owners...:D

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by 1-Bar
just him and shadowz...looks like they have double the population of resident EK F20b owners...:D



oh, I see how it is...:D

[buh_buh]

haha I was talking about a certain EK owner to start his own thread. I don't want to throw out any names though... but his username has 2 numbers in it.

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by buh_buh
haha I was talking about a certain EK owner to start his own thread. I don't want to throw out any names though... but his username has 2 numbers in it.



yeah, get that guy out of here...haha

[DJ Lazy]

Originally posted by Primer_Drift
:hijack:
Arrrrrghh! 4g lude thread pirate!!

:rofl:


Originally posted by richardchan2002
Haha. Forget the 4th gen thread, DJ Lazy needs his own thread! Where are all the other 4th gen luders? :D

I think we should just have a Full on Section for Prelude Onwers period... Similar to the MR2 section that Ryan got... Lucky bastard.. :whip:


Originally posted by 1-Bar
looks like they have double the population of resident EK F20b owners...:D

:rofl:



Originally posted by EK 2.0
yeah, get that guy out of here...haha

+1 for Ban of this EK guy.... :thumbsup:

[ryder_23]

Originally posted by DJ Lazy


+1 for Ban of this EK guy.... :thumbsup:


+2 :shakesfist: :rofl:

[1-Bar]

haha....so...getting back on topic...neone with any legitamate questions/comments/queries??? :dunno:

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by DJ Lazy
+1 for Ban of this EK guy.... :thumbsup:



Originally posted by ryder_23
+2 :shakesfist: :rofl:



oh REAAAALLLLLYYYYYY??...haha


But I do have a serious H22 Related question. In my research of my lil F20B...I am currently running an H22A (I think ecu)...but I do need some codes read. Now because I have a swap, do I have an OEM Diag Port??...Or do I take my ECU somewhere, because this whole OBD shit is new to me. I know if I unplug my ECU to get it read it resets so the fault code is then erased until it gets power from ym car again. So what do I do?? Please help...

[Primer_Drift]

If you have a service connector and CEL hooked up still (and correctly) you just jumper it, turn the ignition to the on position and it will blink the CEL code.

If you have a p13, a CEL hooked up on your cluster, but no service connecter - I believe you jumper pin D22 and and D4 to get it to flash. Otherwise there is a Data link connector that uses pin D22 and D7 that will read the ODB1 data from the ECU while it is in your car.

A13 (switched ground for CEL)
D4 (service connector)
D7 (TXD/RXD datalink)
D22 5v- (sensor ground)

Someone feel free to verify this.. I just pulled it off the schematic

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by Primer_Drift
If you have a service connector and CEL hooked up still (and correctly) you just jumper it, turn the ignition to the on position and it will blink the CEL code.

If you have a p13, a CEL hooked up on your cluster, but no service connecter - I believe you jumper pin D22 and and D4 to get it to flash. Otherwise there is a Data link connector that uses pin D22 and D7 that will read the ODB1 data from the ECU while it is in your car.

A13 (switched ground for CEL)
D4 (service connector)
D7 (TXD/RXD datalink)
D22 5v- (sensor ground)

Someone feel free to verify this.. I just pulled it off the schematic


DAMMIT...I HATE wirirng and wire jumping...but thank you very much for the info...

[DJ Lazy]

Ok, seriously... I should start a 4th Gen thread... :rofl:


My question is this...

Will this Clicky (http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread.php?s=&threadid=92435) fit/work with/replace a prelude shift boot?

I assume it would, but need to double check... :)

[1-Bar]

^yes...you will have to take it off the ITR ring and attach your prelude ring to it...its kind of a pain, but it will work no probs. I got the same one....

[1-Bar]

To all those riding on 18s....how's the ride on the lude?? Is it really that badd?? And also, how is daily driving and dodgeing the potholes??

[rc2002]

The ride doesn't feel much different from 17 or even the stock 16s. Well, I didn't notice a huge difference anyway. You're getting 18's Chris? Want to buy some? haha. :D

[EK 2.0]

Chris I think you might have a little more feedback just based on your suspension and the Bride that you ride in everyday. But all in all I dont think it should be too much worse than your 17's were...

[DJ Lazy]

I am curious aswell... As I am getting my 18's wrapped next week... (bout damn time).. haha... I am curious about the pothole issue... only riding on 35 sidewalls...

[buh_buh]

i dont dodge potholes, just hit em.
And I don't notice much of a difference in ride quality at all.

[1-Bar]

thanks for the input guys. And Kev, you don't notice ride quality b/c your spinning your tires in all gears :D

As for me, nope...I'm just inquiring for a friend :thumbsup:

[Primer_Drift]

Heres a work in progress of mine,

Honda transmission gear ratio comparison excel sheet..
For now it just has the 4th and 5th gen prelude transmissions. Its pretty interesting when you compare the accord (m2l5) and USDM 4th gen (m2f4) transmissions. It also becomes really apparant what affect your tire size has on your speedo and effective final drive of your vehicle. Check it out, let me know what you think.
Right click, save as (http://members.shaw.ca/nibbs333/Honda_trans_v12.xls) :D

edit:
click on the Transmission comparison tab and compare away!

[ryder_23]

^
link not wokring

[Primer_Drift]

friggen weird.. I think shaw deleted it :dunno: its back up for now anyways!

[vtec]

anybody got some good basemaps for a non boosted prelude.
Mods are just i/e.
thanks

[1-Bar]

basemap as in uberdata?? or for hondata??

[vtec]

sorry uberdata

[rc2002]

Hey Danny, I got a basemap for the H22 if you need it!

[Skyline_Addict]

yo richard, still selling your greddy lip?

[LUDELVR]

Originally posted by richardchan2002
Hey Danny, I got a basemap for the H22 if you need it!

That's my basemap bizatch!! ;) haha :rofl: Well, actually, it's Rage2's super duper base map!! :rofl:

What a great base map though!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[reno97637]

Hey guys, I'm fron the Winnipeg Prelude Club and I moved to Calgary. Just checking on how the scene is around here.

[error*]

WTB - A Pair of Front Headlights, and Bumper. Please PM Me or e-mail @ [email protected]

[1-Bar]

Originally posted by reno97637
Hey guys, I'm fron the Winnipeg Prelude Club and I moved to Calgary. Just checking on how the scene is around here.

hey, welcome. Scene is pretty good here, some nice ludes rolling around. Pics/mods of your car??

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by 1-Bar
hey, welcome. Scene is pretty good here, some nice ludes rolling around. Pics/mods of your car??


I know of one that is my fave...Owner's a great guy too...;)

[rc2002]

Originally posted by Skyline_Addict
yo richard, still selling your greddy lip?

Yeah, I guess I'd be willing to part with it. Damn bodyshop. :banghead: If your interested, send me a PM or talk to me about it sometime.



Originally posted by LUDELVR


That's my basemap bizatch!! ;) haha :rofl: Well, actually, it's Rage2's super duper base map!! :rofl:

What a great base map though!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

:werd: That basemap is an awesome one to start from. I don't have the file for that one though - I've got the one for the stock 290cc injectors...

[DJ Lazy]

Can anyone let me know what the "DRL" warning light is for in 4th Gen preludes? For some strange reason it came on half way to work this morning. :dunno:

I don't have a manual. :(

TIA

[1-Bar]

daytime running lights?? Check to see if your DRLs are on...could be either a loose switch or a burnt bulb.....

[DJ Lazy]

Originally posted by 1-Bar
daytime running lights?? Check to see if your DRLs are on...could be either a loose switch or a burnt bulb.....

That would be it... With my latest accident it smashed open my headlight housing and the bulb wasn't broken, so it musta took a hit from a rock or something on the way to work this morning.

Glad to know all my warning lamps are functional. :D

[1-Bar]

ooooo....check avatar for 1-bar's new shoes!!

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by 1-Bar
ooooo....check avatar for 1-bar's new shoes!!


ayuuunnnnnn ah magundah pare...:bigpimp:

[Skyline_Addict]

Originally posted by 1-Bar
ooooo....check avatar for 1-bar's new shoes!!

soon i shall have my own wheel avatar...SOON I TELL YOU!

[ryder_23]

Originally posted by 1-Bar
ooooo....check avatar for 1-bar's new shoes!!

Looking good man :thumbsup:

[vtec]

hmm i'd thought i would share this with my fellow 5th gen owners

just received this in the mail

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/781000-781999/781279_13_full.jpg

what could it be??

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/781000-781999/781279_14_full.jpg

??
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/781000-781999/781279_15_full.jpg





















:eek: :D :eek:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/781000-781999/781279_16_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/781000-781999/781279_17_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/781000-781999/781279_18_full.jpg

[Skyline_Addict]

^^

:clap:

[1-Bar]

wow....boosted!! Did you get the intercooler too?

[rc2002]

Hope the installation goes smoothly today! That's :bigpimp:

[reno97637]

Originally posted by 1-Bar


hey, welcome. Scene is pretty good here, some nice ludes rolling around. Pics/mods of your car??

These 2 pics were taken back in 2003. The only exterior changes are Type SH rims.

http://www.mts.net/~clarete7/cl/august.jpg
http://www.mts.net/~clarete7/cl/engine.jpg

Mods:
Iceman intake, DC headers, DC short shift adapter, AEM pulleys, Sparco springs, KYB shocks, Exedy stage 1 clutch, front & rear tower bars, DIY red tail lights, DIY black housing headlights, DIY ecu reset mod.. that's about it.

The car had a Zex Nitrous kit but I took it off because it seems like the control unit doesn't work anymore. Sometime in the next 3-6 months, I'll be swapping in a lower kilometer JDM engine and I might be putting the car in the trader.

[1-Bar]

nice, I like those black housing headlights :thumbsup:

edit: whoooo (for those of you who missed it in my 5speed thread) here it is, the missing link

http://members.shaw.ca/cponce1/cluster.jpg
My JDM whore-ness +1

[buh_buh]

I thought all JDM clusters had yellow needles.
Looks good.:)

[Skyline_Addict]

i call dips on the CF cover for the gauges!

[ryder_23]

Originally posted by Skyline_Addict
i call dips on the CF cover for the gauges!

You can have all the dips you want, but i dibs the cover :poosie:

hahaha, j/k man, all yours if he gets rid of it

[Skyline_Addict]

Originally posted by ryder_23


You can have all the dips you want, but i dibs the cover :poosie:

hahaha, j/k man, all yours if he gets rid of it

you already have one! lol

[1-Bar]

this is where I got mine

jdmland.com

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by 1-Bar
this is where I got mine

jdmland.com

that place rocks...its where I ordered the relay for my folding mirrors so long ago...great prices and service...

[1-Bar]

hey what's that??





























http://members.shaw.ca/cponce1/vin.jpg

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by 1-Bar
hey what's that??





























http://members.shaw.ca/cponce1/vin.jpg

HOLY Chris...is there ANYTHING USDM left on your car...haha

you have the only LHD JDM Lude I know of...

[Skyline_Addict]

Originally posted by EK 2.0


HOLY Chris...is there ANYTHING USDM left on your car...haha

you have the only LHD JDM Lude I know of...


hahaha, that's so cool!




hey hey, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A PRELUDE MEET?!?!?!?!

Let's plan for one soon!!!!!!

[ryder_23]

Originally posted by Skyline_Addict



hey hey, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A PRELUDE MEET?!?!?!?!

Let's plan for one soon!!!!!!

:werd:

i'm down for a meet...

[buh_buh]

I'm down for a meet, but it doesn't look like my car will be done until about 2008.:banghead:

[D-Man]

The EPC crew will be converging on Calgary on Aug 20th for the V8less SCC at Race City.

We could do it at the actual event...

[1-Bar]

Originally posted by buh_buh
I'm down for a meet, but it doesn't look like my car will be done until about 2008.:banghead:

I know what you feel like......:cry:

[rc2002]

I hear that. Downtime sucks. I've put on maybe 1000km in the last 12 months. I keep telling myself that it'll all be worth it when it's done. :)

[Skyline_Addict]

i don't think ANY of our cars will be ready in the near future.

let's just meet anyways, geez! :D

[1-Bar]

I can bring a photo of my car to the meet....

[Skyline_Addict]

Originally posted by 1-Bar
I can bring a photo of my car to the meet....

just do what you need to do to bring it :), the actual car that is.

sometime before the end of this month?

[EK 2.0]

hey the guy with the H22 head is in for a meet...



BTW, I am talking about me...

[Skyline_Addict]

^^
we know we know. you're always considered a prelude guy :)

[Skyline_Addict]

how does next sunday for a meet sound?
i saw we just meet somewhere, go for a little cruise around town, then stop somehwere to eat!

[1-Bar]

can one of you 5th gen 5-speed luders check to see where the shift linkage runs please? Does it run behind the rear engine mount and down closest to the driver's side, or does it run beside closest to the passenger's side?

Much apprichated, thanks!!

[1-Bar]

nm found out....thnx Ricahrd

[vtec]

so whens the meet gonna happen?

we should all meet up for the SCC show also.

[ryder_23]

Originally posted by Skyline_Addict
how does next sunday for a meet sound?
i saw we just meet somewhere, go for a little cruise around town, then stop somehwere to eat!

i'll be back sunday around noonish, if u plan anytime after that, give me a shout terrence...i'll have my phone on when i'm out of town :thumbsup:

[Skyline_Addict]

how does sunday, august 7th sound to everyone?
gives everyone about 2 weeks to get there cars ready, as i know a couple of you guys are K.I.A for now :p.

we'll meet up in the late afternoon or evening, go for a little cruise to a restaurant, and grab some eats!

[1-Bar]

hmmm....that might work out for me!! ^^^

[D-Man]

Originally posted by vtec
we should all meet up for the SCC show also.

I think that is a great idea. I think there will be quite a few of us luders coming down from Edmonton for the V8less SCC. Since it doesn't start till 4pm, we can meet up before then or if not, afterwards....

We should invite all preludes, not just 5th gens...


BTW, anyone interested in participating in the V8less SCC? The EPC will most likely have a booth and a drag/show team...

[rc2002]

^ I'm not sure if my car will be done by August 7, but if it is I'll be there. Maybe we'll FINALLY have a prelude meet.

[Skyline_Addict]

sounds good.
so let's shoot for the 7th!

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by D-Man
We should invite all preludes, not just 5th gens...


pfffft...5G or bust...;)

[arian_ma]

nooo not 7th! I leave on the 6th :cry:

FINALLY it lets me post.
That was the longest month of "probationary user" I've ever had to sit through.

[1-Bar]

yo welcome to the 5G Prelude Thread ^^^^

[lude_grl]

meets are always fun.
too bad im not cool nuff to come :(
with my 4thgeness

[rip]

I'm looking for a CF OEM hood and Trunk Lid. Anyone have either of these or know where i could pick them up cheap?

[rc2002]

Well there are a few guys on this page with both of the hood and trunk lid. Don't know if they're parting with them though.

I find that being cheap never works out. You ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS get what you pay for. I know that James at PE can get you a CF trunk lid. Plus it's local for you.

[arian_ma]

5th gen lude :thumbsup:
my shifting :eek:
new clutch soon? prooooobably
:banghead: :guns:

[Skyline_Addict]

Originally posted by rip
I'm looking for a CF OEM hood and Trunk Lid. Anyone have either of these or know where i could pick them up cheap?

depends what you mean by cheap? cf hoods are easier to come by, so it might be easier to find a "deal" on them, especially for a used one. trunk lids, different story.

i WAS thinking of selling mine previously, and i wouldn't have sold it for any less than $500...and i still wouldn't. a new one's conna cost you around 575 + tax.


Originally posted by arian_ma
5th gen lude :thumbsup:
my shifting :eek:
new clutch soon? prooooobably
:banghead: :guns:

how bad can you be? lol. i'm sure you've got the hang if it, if you've been driving it for over say...a week?




everyone start fixing your cars up! hope to see everyone there.

[buh_buh]

anyone know where I can buy another 5th gen for cheap?
Its been so long I don't even know if I own one anymore.

Hey lets see some people post up their pics. I wanna see some Preludes in here. :D

[D-Man]

http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=3419270093&idx=19

[rc2002]

Originally posted by buh_buh
anyone know where I can buy another 5th gen for cheap?
Its been so long I don't even know if I own one anymore.


I'll sell you mine for cheap. It's a perfect parts car. :thumbsup:

[arian_ma]

Anyone going to the beyond meet tonight?
At Chinook?

[1-Bar]

^I'll be there....oh, and its a 403 meet before you get flamed....

[Skyline_Addict]

https://webdisk.ucalgary.ca/~tswah/public_html/greddy1.jpg

a preview of what's in the works....hehehe


Originally posted by buh_buh
anyone know where I can buy another 5th gen for cheap?
Its been so long I don't even know if I own one anymore.

Hey lets see some people post up their pics. I wanna see some Preludes in here. :D

:confused: :(

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by arian_ma
Anyone going to the beyond meet tonight?
At Chinook?


Beyond meet??...look it's a 403Honda Meet...haha...jut playing...


Originally posted by 1-Bar
^I'll be there....oh, and its a 403 meet before you get flamed....


thought that one of the nicer user should flame him versus a meanie...;)


Originally posted by buh_buh
anyone know where I can buy another 5th gen for cheap?
Its been so long I don't even know if I own one anymore.

Hey lets see some people post up their pics. I wanna see some Preludes in here. :D


Here Kevin, that Header I am running is for an H22, and same with the SRI...Valve Cover...heck the head will fit an H22...

[1-Bar]

Originally posted by Skyline_Addict
a preview of what's in the works....hehehe
:confused: :(

Nice house!! But a lil off topic man.....j/j

[Skyline_Addict]

Originally posted by 1-Bar


Nice house!! But a lil off topic man.....j/j

when did you become such a joker, hehe. :angel:

[arian_ma]

1-Bar you going?
I'm excited to see your car :D you and your god damn JDM rims.
do you know around what time it starts?

ps I waxed my car today and all the chips in the front end
got magnified like 10x...looks like crap now.
At least I'll ahve an excuse for a C/F hood and a new bumper.
Wish i had the cash :cry:

[Skyline_Addict]

Originally posted by arian_ma
1-Bar you going?
I'm excited to see your car :D you and your god damn JDM rims.
do you know around what time it starts?

ps I waxed my car today and all the chips in the front end
got magnified like 10x...looks like crap now.
At least I'll ahve an excuse for a C/F hood and a new bumper.
Wish i had the cash :cry:

starts at around 730 on the roof of the chinook parkade.
atleast that's when ppl start to show up.