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choweyt3t4
06-20-2002, 05:14 PM
within the next week i should be receiving my aem plug and play computer - hopefully lol.anyways i was wondering does any one know of somebody who knows enough to tune it in calgary minus the expensive per hour charge lol .i heard that if not done properly i can turn my engine into a nuclear reactor within seconds and cause a melt down the size of chernobyll so if you guys dont want radiation contamination in calgary it would probably be a wise decision to help me out somehow lol:confused:

B18C
06-20-2002, 05:19 PM
rage2 (Shelton) and Redline (Kyle) on this board are pretty knowledgeable about tuning. I'm sure that they can help you out. I think Redline charges 1 bowl of pho per hour and Rage just 1 bowl per hour.

Rage also has a wideband o2 meter. you have to get your own sensor though. Actually, I think if you talk to Nelson (Tunerworks) he may rent out his wideband.

Other than that, I don't know.

redline
06-20-2002, 07:50 PM
I would talk with nelson if i was you.

max_boost
06-20-2002, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by redline
I would talk with nelson if i was you.

I think Nelson would do a house call, super cool guy. Tunerworks shop rates are fairly high $70/hour! Yikes!:eek:

WBB6
06-20-2002, 10:43 PM
You get what you pay for!!!

B18C
06-20-2002, 11:25 PM
If you are really brave (and patient) Hondata (http://www.hondata.com) has some pretty good tech articles on how to tune. They are geared towards the Hondata of course but I can't imagine the AEM unit being too different. It would be a good starting point anyways, if you want to do it cheap. Just do that and rent/borrow a lambda meter.

choweyt3t4
06-21-2002, 12:26 AM
hmmm theres that name that i knew would pop up.well he must be good then.but honestly i want to know what a person is doing to my car and understanding it so that i can someday i can be a super tuner like this nelson fella.how about the one they call rage how would one get a hold of the apprentice who is soon to become tha master??????:confused:

rage2
06-21-2002, 01:34 AM
I can help with a fuel curve if you get a Wideband O2 setup (rent Tunerworks' unit).

I'm still not an expert in spark tuning. Just using my ears to hear for knock and dialing timing back a bit... not the safest way really. I also don't posess the art of getting the best compromise between boost/timing to get the most power... but that's one of the last things to worry about to get the last 10 or 20hp =).

B18C
06-21-2002, 09:38 AM
Ignition timing...<shudder> That is something that I don't even want to think about.

I was just thinking about this last night....The Hondata has this cool feature that if you hook up a wideband o2 sensor to your car (I mean plugged into your ECU) you can choose thing feature that you can just type in the A/F you want, say 12.5, then go for a little drive. It will then suggest the changes you have to make to obtain that A/F. You should check and see if the AEM unit has a similar feature, I'm sure that it does. You may need a pretty good base map to start with though, I'm not sure.

redline
06-21-2002, 10:28 AM
The AEM is more of a true standalone vs the hondata. The base maps are not that good and you will have trouble getting the car to run. Some people on other boards have spent like 10 hours just trying to get the car to start with an AEM unit. I wish you luck with that project. Make sure you got a good laptop and a lot of patinence and make sure you can be without your car for a few days.

How big of injectors are you going to run?

good luck with your project.

rage2
06-21-2002, 10:36 AM
Yea, getting the car to start in the first place is a job and a half. It took me about 2 hours to get a reliable start, and another few days of tweaking in -30C weather for the cold start fuel compenstation maps.

Does the AEM have a nice knob to dial in extra or less fuel to help tuning? Or do we have to plug in data, test and repeat?


Originally posted by B18C
I was just thinking about this last night....The Hondata has this cool feature that if you hook up a wideband o2 sensor to your car (I mean plugged into your ECU) you can choose thing feature that you can just type in the A/F you want, say 12.5, then go for a little drive. It will then suggest the changes you have to make to obtain that A/F.

The TECIII was supposed to ship with this feature but it never happened. Supposedly coming in a later upgrade. It's not that big of a deal really, once you get the car running, with a Wideband O2 and datalog, you'll be able to dial in 12.5:1 ratio in a matter of minutes.

2000impreza
06-21-2002, 11:01 AM
i think AEM EMS has a knock sensor option. you might want to look into this because you can't always hear detonation if you have a loud exahust.

TEC3 systems start at almost double of what the AEM EMS cost.

nookmumracing
06-21-2002, 11:38 AM
There is this guy in town that just opened up a shop in town. He has been Supra Turbo Guru and has accomplishments to prove it. His shop has a state of the art dyno with a wide band O2 sensor too. HKS, Dinan, Techtom distributor. I don't know how good he is with a Honda but he definately knows his Toyota. He's kind of expensive too but check him out, he has a lot of knowledge.

Peace

Redlyne_mr2
06-21-2002, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by nookmumracing
There is this guy in town that just opened up a shop in town. He has been Supra Turbo Guru and has accomplishments to prove it. His shop has a state of the art dyno with a wide band O2 sensor too. HKS, Dinan, Techtom distributor. I don't know how good he is with a Honda but he definately knows his Toyota. He's kind of expensive too but check him out, he has a lot of knowledge.

Peace
here's his site
www.monsterhorsepower.com

redline
06-21-2002, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by nookmumracing
There is this guy in town that just opened up a shop in town. He has been Supra Turbo Guru and has accomplishments to prove it. His shop has a state of the art dyno with a wide band O2 sensor too. HKS, Dinan, Techtom distributor. I don't know how good he is with a Honda but he definately knows his Toyota. He's kind of expensive too but check him out, he has a lot of knowledge.

Peace

He has done tuning on tien's turbo teg. I think reg might be a good option for you.

redline
06-21-2002, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by rage2

Does the AEM have a nice knob to dial in extra or less fuel to help tuning? Or do we have to plug in data, test and repeat?




nope just the laptop

choweyt3t4
06-21-2002, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by nookmumracing
There is this guy in town that just opened up a shop in town. He has been Supra Turbo Guru and has accomplishments to prove it. His shop has a state of the art dyno with a wide band O2 sensor too. HKS, Dinan, Techtom distributor. I don't know how good he is with a Honda but he definately knows his Toyota. He's kind of expensive too but check him out, he has a lot of knowledge.

Peace yeah i have heard about mister reimer .my friend says he actually oews him a favor but im not counting on that favor - i want to have a back up plan jut in case you know what i mean?

Silencer
06-22-2002, 12:11 AM
Reg is the man! The Supras he builds are wicked, so are the BMWs.

Audi Kid
06-22-2002, 12:15 AM
so is the TT lexus GS 400 mmmmmmmm

4wheeldrift
06-22-2002, 11:54 AM
I still remember talking to reg about his one lap experiences at WOW a couple of years ago. He asked me what i was driving, when I told him an impreza, IIRC he told me "Bring the car by my shop with 10 grand, we'll have you flyin' low" :angel: When it comes to forced induction in calgary, overall I doubt there is anyone better. Some places might be better on individual cars and such, but for overall knowledge on how to make a car haul ass Reg is the man :bigpimp:

2000impreza
06-22-2002, 12:56 PM
10g's eh? if i only had 10G's in my back pocket:nut:

4wheeldrift
06-22-2002, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by 2000impreza
10g's eh? if i only had 10G's in my back pocket:nut:

That was my thought at the time :) I pulled out my wallet and it started sobbing :banghead:

legendboy
06-23-2002, 10:49 AM
I think reg is in germany right now.....

redline
06-23-2002, 03:02 PM
This is my personal opinion, reg is the man for toyota and maybe some BMW stuff but he does not know jack about hondas. For the most part he has done alot of work on tien's turbo teg and that thing is a total dog (sorry tien if you are reading this but it "was" true, I hope your new setup is better) And tien's car got half way respectable when he took in hongcouver for some more tuning.

I would look else were if i was all of you with hondas.

choweyt3t4
06-23-2002, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by redline
The AEM is more of a true standalone vs the hondata. The base maps are not that good and you will have trouble getting the car to run. Some people on other boards have spent like 10 hours just trying to get the car to start with an AEM unit. I wish you luck with that project. Make sure you got a good laptop and a lot of patinence and make sure you can be without your car for a few days.

How big of injectors are you going to run?

good luck with your project. im only running stock injectors and stock pump,but i have 2 440cc sub injectors at the intake and the earls mf2 unit that tells the injectors start spraying when it reads boost.

redline
06-23-2002, 07:09 PM
I do not see the point if you are going to run stock injectors. You must run bigger injectors to take full advantage of a AEM or Hondata. I would start with 550cc injectors and move up from there as you need more fuel.

choweyt3t4
06-24-2002, 11:03 PM
lovely, so i picked the wrong part to get first, oh well at least i will have the aem for later; until i can afford the injectors which will probably be next year, lol.but still won't it at least help out with my fuel and timing a little better than it's running right now????i know i need a fuel pump, bigger injectors, and maybe a fuel rail. But i also could use a million dollars,12 preludes, one for every month of the year, and parents to support me.

redline
06-24-2002, 11:35 PM
well injectors is only $700 for brand new RCs 550cc and the AEM will work good once it is tuned up!