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NickGT
03-26-2005, 12:05 AM
It's official! I'd just like to say Carroll Shelby and SVT are amazing!

Info up here: Clicky (http://www.mustangheaven.com/stangspecs/2007cobra/07cobra_main.htm)

Tons of Pics: Clicky (http://www.mustangphotos.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=514&thumb=1)

More Pics: Clicky (http://www.gotmustang.com/Default.aspx?tabid=217)

To sum it up: 5.4L Supercharged V8

450+ HP, 450 foot-pounds of torque :eek: :eek: :eek: Rumour is it's underrated - They don't call it the GT500 for nothing.

Audio of it being let loose: Clicky!!! (http://www.mustangheaven.com/stangspecs/2007cobra/Cut1shelby.mp3)

Xtrema
03-26-2005, 12:09 AM
The problem with retro styling is that it's fun when it first comes out but stale up pretty quick. I'm tired of the style already.

I think without the hardcore fans, I'm sure this Mustang will suffer the same fate of the new Thunderbird.

NickGT
03-26-2005, 12:10 AM
A little appearance comparison between the Cobra and GT

NickGT
03-26-2005, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by Xtrema
The problem with retro styling is that it's fun when it first comes out but stale up pretty quick. I'm tired of the style already.

I think without the hardcore fans, I'm sure this Mustang will suffer the same fate of the new Thunderbird.

I think you under-estimate the mustang following and value. This thing will be a bargain imo, and sell very well as usual :dunno: I didn't like the t-bird to much at first but its grown on me. I wouldn't buy one, but thats a completely different topic. The new mustang has looked great from the get go! I can't believe you find it stale already but whatever :rofl:

But hell even the interior has been done up, leather dash, seats, steering wheel, shifter, badging, etc. It's gonna be quite the package!

http://members.shaw.ca/NickGT/cobra.jpg

BerserkerCatSplat
03-26-2005, 12:17 AM
Pure hotness! :drool: Definitely a marked improvement, in both engine and syling.

NickGT
03-26-2005, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by BerserkerCatSpl
Pure hotness! :drool: Definitely a marked improvement, in both engine and syling.

Totally!

Audio of it being reved up, then peeling out with 450hp/450 torque Ohhhhh man: Click Here (http://www.mustangheaven.com/stangspecs/2007cobra/Cut1shelby.mp3):drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: Damn I wish I had video! :banghead:

BerserkerCatSplat
03-26-2005, 12:28 AM
Talk about an audio joygasm! :D I can't wait for Cam Clark Ford to get one of those in, time for a test drive! :burnout:

Moonracer
03-26-2005, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by Xtrema
The problem with retro styling is that it's fun when it first comes out but stale up pretty quick. I'm tired of the style already.

I think without the hardcore fans, I'm sure this Mustang will suffer the same fate of the new Thunderbird.

I think it's a different story with this car. It's not just the styling on this car but everything about it is better. Great performance for the $$$, it even handles well straight out the showroom. The old ones were a good bang for the buck but this one is better. I have not really liked the stang for years now but the only thing keeping my wallet from this car is my bank account! I'd pick one up tomorrow if I could. This car is gonna sell like hotcakes for the next few years to come as long as they don't screw it up on a new redesign.

NickGT
03-26-2005, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by BerserkerCatSpl
Talk about an audio joygasm! :D I can't wait for Cam Clark Ford to get one of those in, time for a test drive! :burnout:

Man I've had it looping for the last 15 minutes damn. :rofl:

Moonracer
03-26-2005, 12:39 AM
Hey that is sweet! :thumbsup:

Idratherbsidewayz
03-26-2005, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by NickGT


Man I've had it looping for the last 15 minutes damn. :rofl:

Haha im doing the same thing. Thats a damn nice sound... :drool:

shakalaka
03-26-2005, 01:08 AM
Pretty hot deff. Prolly lookin at around 50-60G's!

NickGT
03-26-2005, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by Moonracer


I think it's a different story with this car. It's not just the styling on this car but everything about it is better. Great performance for the $$$, it even handles well straight out the showroom. The old ones were a good bang for the buck but this one is better. I have not really liked the stang for years now but the only thing keeping my wallet from this car is my bank account! I'd pick one up tomorrow if I could. This car is gonna sell like hotcakes for the next few years to come as long as they don't screw it up on a new redesign.

Well said :thumbsup:


Originally posted by shakalaka
Pretty hot deff. Prolly lookin at around 50-60G's!

True man. Pretty impressive for what you get outta the box! All the power, handling, and top if off, it has shelby written all over it. I was hoping the new cobra would be wild, but this blew me away :thumbsup:

Wildcat
03-26-2005, 04:34 AM
Originally posted by NickGT
A little appearance comparison between the Cobra and GT

i honestly didnt think the car couldve got any more ugly. you sir, have proved me wrong.

NickGT
03-26-2005, 04:50 AM
Originally posted by Wildcat


i honestly didnt think the car couldve got any more ugly. you sir, have proved me wrong.

:rofl:

That's a shame man

streetarab
03-26-2005, 10:56 AM
you know, i expected to be blown away, i held my breath as i clicked on the link, and then, wtf, just a mustang with some nice rims and a new, not much different, front clip, sure the power is there, but there is nothing...it doesnt have the certain something
to me, this is it...
http://kings-of-the-roads.wz.cz/gt%20500%2067.jpg
pretty much everything but the roofline has some work done, scoops for the brakes (which were still functional in early '67), simply beautiful
i even think the new saleen looks 20 times better than this, in fact, i absoluty adore this thing
http://www.fast-autos.net/saleen/05s281sc25.jpg

NickGT
03-26-2005, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by streetarab
you know, i expected to be blown away, i held my breath as i clicked on the link, and then, wtf, just a mustang with some nice rims and a new, not much different, front clip, sure the power is there, but there is nothing...it doesnt have the certain something
to me, this is it...
http://kings-of-the-roads.wz.cz/gt%20500%2067.jpg
pretty much everything but the roofline has some work done, scoops for the brakes (which were still functional in early '67), simply beautiful
i even think the new saleen looks 20 times better than this, in fact, i absoluty adore this thing
http://www.fast-autos.net/saleen/05s281sc25.jpg

New clip, hood, rear spoiler, wheels, interior materials upgraded, steering wheel, upgrades on suspension, brakes, engine... so it doesnt have the side scoops. That's the only thing I see that maybe they should have had, but really isn't needed.

If you look you'll actually see how much has changed. It's not as crazy as the Saleen. And it shouldn't be. But I'm obviously biased hehe. As much as I like the tuner stangs, rousch, saleen, steeda, the cobra is still the most desireable right now.

-edit-

Saleen is definitely flashier, and might be faster. The S281-Extreme hasn't been released yet, I was looking at the old extreme specs. It should be 500HP. But probably will end up costing more. So choose your flavor. Gotta love having so much choice!

pixil9
03-26-2005, 11:10 AM
I'm going to have one on order ASAP.. bye g35.

streetarab
03-26-2005, 11:15 AM
i just think its all to subtle, and i said that its good the power and performance are there, but it doesnt have that styling, that good ol' shelby styling

NickGT
03-26-2005, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by streetarab
i just think its all to subtle, and i said that its good the power and performance are there, but it doesnt have that styling, that good ol' shelby styling

I still beg to differ. But that's cool Read up on the exterior/interior styling (http://www.mustangheaven.com/stangspecs/2007cobra/07cobra_exterior-int.htm)

EK 2.0
03-26-2005, 12:19 PM
Haven't you all learned by now??...you CANNOT argue with NickGT about Mustangs...haha

please just agree with him that they new Cobra is sexy...because it truly is...otherwise we will be here ALL day trying to get him to see the flaws you all see in the car...haha

finboy
03-26-2005, 12:52 PM
i like the saleen more.
i really think they should have adapted the vents into the shelby...it just doesn't look right w/o them :dunno:

BumpinTalon
03-26-2005, 01:34 PM
styling wise, it is still boring. Ford sucks at choosing rims to put on all their cars. The stock Mustang GT rims are some of the worst rims to come on a factory since god knows when, and these unfortunately suck too. performance wise, not bad at all :D

NickGT
03-26-2005, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by EK 2.0
Haven't you all learned by now??...you CANNOT argue with NickGT about Mustangs...haha

please just agree with him that they new Cobra is sexy...because it truly is...otherwise we will be here ALL day trying to get him to see the flaws you all see in the car...haha

:tongue:

CBRComet
03-26-2005, 01:43 PM
GT is a great car for the bux, but the Shelby/SVT should have an independent rear like the previous generation SVT.

EK 2.0
03-26-2005, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by CBRComet
GT is a great car for the bux, but the Shelby/SVT should have an independent rear like the previous generation SVT.

I read somewhere that you have the choice for an IRS...or the Live Axle...there is a thread somewhere on Beyond about it...

NickGT
03-26-2005, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by EK 2.0


I read somewhere that you have the choice for an IRS...or the Live Axle...there is a thread somewhere on Beyond about it...

I think that was just a rumour man. Pretty sure it's live axle. They say most mustang owners want the live axle for the drag strip. But I believe the truth is by getting rid of the IRS and putting in the solid axle they will be saving $70 million in development costs. Seen that on some website so :dunno:

Wildcat
03-26-2005, 02:37 PM
hey that saleen looks pretty decent.

CBRComet
03-26-2005, 02:42 PM
for sure the reason for no IRS is cost. its just my feeling that the GT is ok with live axle at its price/performance level, but the SVT with 400+HP and at its price point is ridiculous with a solid rear end. drove a previous gen. SVT and it was a sweet car.

BerserkerCatSplat
03-26-2005, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by streetarab
you know, i expected to be blown away, i held my breath as i clicked on the link, and then, wtf, just a mustang with some nice rims and a new, not much different, front clip, sure the power is there, but there is nothing...it doesnt have the certain something


I can't totally agree with you there, but let me explain for a bit.

If you look at Shelby Mustang history, you have to go way back to the original 1965 GT350.
http://mustangmonthly.com/thehistoryof/p177779_image_large.jpg
The original Shelby wasn't a heavily modified, outrageous-looking road machine. No, as far as exterior differences go, it had a hood scoop (side scoops didn't come until later. faux chrome scoops were standard Mustang equipment anyway, so it still followed the same body lines), a slightly altered front fascia for better airflow, rollcage, special wheels, and a stripe package, and was put on a diet (ie no stereo, no sound deadening, etc.). What really set the Shelby apart from the standard Mustang was the monster under the hood. In this case, it was the 289Hi-Po, if memory serves. While a 289 cubic inch motor may seem rather small for a muscle car (only 4.7 litres), it was a huge jump over what was being offered in normal Mustang packages of the day.

However, I am not going to compare this car against the forthcoming Shelby. Why? Well, because the first factory-tuned Mustang is not the Shelby. It's this one:

http://www.mustangphotos.com/photopost/data/511/105_ford_racing.jpg

The FRPP (Ford Racing Performance Parts) team made this factory racer, but look at it... it looks pretty much the same as a normal Mustang GT. No styling changes, yet from the way it sits, from the massive tires of the back, you can tell...this is no normal Mustang GT. Looking closer, you see the requisite roll cage. Something has to be up. Or, more correctly, down. As in under the hood. Lurking in the engine bay rests a 5.0L Cammer V8, putting out 420 horsepower and 370 lb-ft of torque. No crazy body changes, no huge spoiler, just raw power, and lots of it. Such is the original Shelby formula: Power+weight loss = speed.

True, you cannot buy one of these cars from your local Ford dealership. However, this car and its drivetrain can be built entirely from FRPP's catalog. And I'm willing to bet it'd be quite a bit cheaper than shelling out for the SVT Shelby Cobra.

Ah, yes, the Cobra. I was getting to it, don't rush me. :D

I'm going to use the 1968 models as reference, as they're the ones I have the most experience with.

1968 Mustang GT
http://68mustang.peoriawebdesign.com/images/craigs-68.jpg

1968 Shelby GT500
http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/images/1968/500/1353_Rightfront.jpg

As you can see, the styling differences are, yet again, minimal. A slightly altered front treatment (once again for more airflow), different grille lights, scoops instead of grilles (note: only the upper scoops are functional, and they're really just for air conditioning), rollcage, wheels, hood scoops, and the 428 cubic inch big block under the hood (GT350's had a high-performance 302 small block). Once again, the simple, yet effective Shelby formula holds true.

So, with these 2 examples to look at, we come to the 2007 Shelby Cobra.

http://www.mustangphotos.com/photopost/data/514/1gt500_15-med.jpg

Yep, you guessed it, there's not a whole lot of body work. The front has a bigger hole for better airflow, slightly changed headlight housings, different wheels, front splitter, a mild (yet functional) spoiler, and a stripe package. It most likely even lost some weight along the way. And, following the pattern, there's the monster MOD V8 lurking in the darkness, pumping out the performance numbers. Yep, the modern Shelby follows exactly the same formula used in Shelbys of the past.

And I love it. :D

And that's my little rant on why the 2007 Cobra should look exactly like it does. Not too wild. Just power, weight loss, the end.

Z_Fan
03-26-2005, 02:50 PM
Is there an estimated price tag on the Shelby version yet?

NickGT
03-26-2005, 02:51 PM
Nice man. BerserkerCatSpl put into words what I failed to.

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Originally posted by Z_Fan
Is there an estimated price tag on the Shelby version yet?

Motor trend expects low 40K USD, so around 50K CND

BerserkerCatSplat
03-26-2005, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by NickGT
Nice man. BerserkerCatSpl put into words what I failed to.

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Hahaha, thanks! :D If there's one thing I love talking about, it's Shelbys!



On another note, I've managed to come up with the one thing I'd change about the new Shelby: the tailights. I would have loved to see Ford put the Thunderbird-style lights on the new GT500, like on the 60's versions.

http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/images/1968/350/68_350_782_i.jpg

So, I did some Photoshop work. The original lights are on top for comparison.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/BerserkerCatSplat/tailightscomparison.jpg


So, what does everyone think? Good/Bad?

three.eighteen.
03-26-2005, 04:32 PM
too much tail light, looks almost like a early 90s camaro

grocko
03-26-2005, 05:32 PM
:hitit: :drool: :drool:

hjr
03-26-2005, 05:39 PM
naw, the 'thunderbird' tails look way more 'shelby' to me

grocko
03-26-2005, 05:46 PM
Didn't the Shelby taillights come off older Cougars back in the day??

BerserkerCatSplat
03-26-2005, 06:05 PM
^ Pretty much. The Thunderbirds, Cougars, and Shelbys all had the same basic taillight assembly.

calgary350z
03-27-2005, 02:16 AM
i like it, they should keep with tradition and put those style tail lights just like they look like they are changing the shape of the headlights

streetarab
03-27-2005, 09:05 AM
yea, uh, i see what your sayin with the whole 'didnt change much and thats the way it should be,' but all those little changes back in the 60's added up to something, all the changes work together, here, they just kinda smoothed things out, its not awe inspiring, like i said, the saleen is one of those cars, it could probably do without a few of those scoops and still pimp, i just think that the new one is still too bland

btw, the 67's are my favorite :D

EDIT-look at the spoiler on the 60's, THAT IS FUCKIN HOT, look at the new one, they glued it on, :dunno: