Calgary's First Auto -> 5 Speed (2000 Honda Prelude)

[1-Bar]

Congrats go out to cocoabrova and maxboost_r for accomplishing the first auto to 5 speed manual conversion on a 2000 Honda Prelude in Calgary.

The swap took a painful 7 days, lots of blood sweat and tears, not to mention my bank account took a nice dive. But in the end, it was all worth it.

Special thanks to:
Greg (getting all the honda parts I needed)
Shoaib (major pieces ie. tranny, intermediate shaft)
Aldrich (wiring)
Allan (some grunt work)
Richard (much needed base map)

Pics going to be uploaded later tonight.


mmmm....Honda LSD....

[Superesc]

nice!! :thumbsup:

[Team_Mclaren]

congrat chris, now no one is gonna laught at you for driving an auto!:D :thumbsup:

[rc2002]

Nice work! How's that basemap working out for ya? :D

[Redlyne_mr2]

Holly shit, everyone talks about it but nobody ever steps up to the plate to do it. Nice job

[civicrider]

good job, but wouldnt it have been cheaper to just buy another lude that was standard?

[Celica TVS3]

:werd:

[1-Bar]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren
congrat chris, now no one is gonna laught at you for driving an auto!:D :thumbsup:

why would people laught at me for driving an auto :dunno: I'm still a good person....:D


Originally posted by richardchan2002
Nice work! How's that basemap working out for ya? :D

its good, idles funny sometimes....almost stalls, lol...doesn't do it as much though....thanks again!!

[1-Bar]

Originally posted by civicrider
good job, but wouldnt it have been cheaper to just buy another lude that was standard?

cheaper, yes....w/ LSD no.

[rc2002]

Originally posted by 1-Bar

its good, idles funny sometimes....almost stalls, lol...doesn't do it as much though....thanks again!!

Heheh. Welcome to my world. :) It should tide you over until you can make it to the dyno. Hopefully that's soon!

How's it feel to be driving a 5-speed now? You have to take me for a ride sometime!

[Mckenzie]

Nice Chris!

I remember you were telling me how you wanted an auto last year when we swapped amps so now your dream has come true...keep up workin on that sweet ride...:thumbsup:

[LUDELVR]

haha, about time man! Good to hear it's working...now...about that turbo kit I was hearing so much of back in the day!;) :rofl:

[rc2002]

Originally posted by 1-Bar
The swap took a painful 7 days, lots of blood sweat and tears, ...

Hey I just noticed this. Who was crying? haha.

[MM99lude]

AYYYY!! nice chris, finally, must feel great to have it all done. You'll have to take me for a spin when "everything" is complete;)

[Skyline_Addict]

woo hoo.
welcome to the club! :D

[finboy]

Originally posted by LUDELVR
haha, about time man! Good to hear it's working...now...about that turbo kit I was hearing so much of back in the day!;) :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

good to see you swapped out the womatic and put in a fun tranny, your swap sounds WAY more complicated then mine was, thank god for arcaic dodge technology :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

have fun with the car dude :thumbsup:

[RickDaTuner]

wow? dunno what to say?

[1-Bar]

^lol

thanks for all the comments guys!! It was a lot of work and I'm glad I had some friends help me out.

As for the boost....well, I'll just keep that one to myself for now......

Hopefully Mr. DxR will have some pics for us to look at soon...

[mdeleon]

i saw it last night!!!!:thumbsup: :D

[prodjsxb]

Wow!

Do you have pics? How did putting in a clutch work out? everyone always tells me thats the worst part, is it true?

[CivicDXR]

Originally posted by 1-Bar

Hopefully Mr. DxR will have some pics for us to look at soon...

pics will be up by tonight...

[1-Bar]

Originally posted by prodjsxb
Wow!

Do you have pics? How did putting in a clutch work out? everyone always tells me thats the worst part, is it true?

that part would have been worse if we didn't have a reference. Good thing me and CivicDXR put in the 4 gauge power wire for my stereo around the master cylinder/clutch pedal area. Made a really good template out of paper, then stuck onto cardboard. Lined up the pedal, took it off...stuck the template on the firewall and drilled the holes.

maxboost_r did a wicked job cutting out the holes. It was nearly a stock cut, the master fit perfectally!!

The worse part was running the clutch hard line in behind the motor and all the way to the slave. But I think the clutch was the most iffy part.

[Kaos]

Damn that must've took alot of work.
I guess MaxBoost_R can finally work on his Bimmer :D

[IntegraG2]

Very very nice job done by all of them...good luck on learning how to drive stick homie.....take me for a rip when your clutch is broken in....

Les

[1-Bar]

Originally posted by IntegraG2
Very very nice job done by all of them...good luck on learning how to drive stick homie.....take me for a rip when your clutch is broken in....

Les

thanks man, I think I got it down....only 800km to go!!

[shadowz]

5 spd and Bride zeta hotness

[cocoabrova]

Preludes suck.........j/k


I think I can build a complete BB6 from scratch now:banghead:

[JordanEG6]

good job guys...i saw the work the first day you started workin on it i think. its good it turned out okay. btw, nice advans :thumbsup:

[D-Man]

Congrats Chris! Looking forward to seeing it first hand...

So, when will you and your crew be available to come over to my house and do my lude?

[1-Bar]

^haha, I don't think they're going to do another one anytime soon. They have recently disowned me and kick me in the junk whenever we meet....

[sexualbanana]

Off Topic:
Skyline, who's the sig!?! :drool:

[1-Bar]

Originally posted by sexualbanana
Off Topic:
Skyline, who's the sig!?! :drool:

thanks Gav....nice to hear from you....:thumbsdow

[ryder_23]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren
congrat chris, now no one is gonna laught at you for driving an auto!:D :thumbsup:

Who laughed at him? :dunno:

Do we need to remind everyone what u drive vince? :rofl:

Congrats Chris, good to hear you got around to gettin it done :thumbsup:

[sexualbanana]

Originally posted by 1-Bar


thanks Gav....nice to hear from you....:thumbsdow

I was gonna wait to see it in person. Geez... Sensitive much? :bigpimp:

[1-Bar]

^very....

[Skyline_Addict]

Originally posted by sexualbanana


I was gonna wait to see it in person. Geez... Sensitive much? :bigpimp:

hahaha, it's lee hyolee...she's been featured on beyond a couple times!

anyways, i can't wait to see the pictures! great teamwork to get it done, really shows that determination can accomplish many things!

[CivicDXR]

OK people, here are the pics... this was in no way or form a "how-to" pic session, we were just taking pics whenever we felt like it, so we really don't have any technical pics, so don't ask :poosie:

here we go (pics have been resized to be internet friendly):

1-Bar's car being raped:
http://members.shaw.ca/aldrichevangelista/DSC00702.jpg

Auto tranny out:
http://members.shaw.ca/aldrichevangelista/DSC00696.jpg

"So MaxBoost_R, what do you think of Honda's auto sportshift tranny?"
http://members.shaw.ca/aldrichevangelista/DSC00697.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/aldrichevangelista/DSC00707.jpg

1-Bar: "Um, do you guys know what you're doing?"
http://members.shaw.ca/aldrichevangelista/DSC00716.jpg

Cocoabrova (right): "I think so..."
MaxBoost_R (under car): "Yo, what IS thaaaat?"
http://members.shaw.ca/aldrichevangelista/DSC00717.jpg

Manual flywheel all bolted up and cleaned:
http://members.shaw.ca/aldrichevangelista/DSC00719.jpg

"Yo guys, check out what I got underneath the hood. Its the new JDM "Filipino Dude" LSD tranny."
http://members.shaw.ca/aldrichevangelista/DSC00714.jpg

The start of the holes for the clutch master cylinder, kinda looks like an evil happy face:
http://members.shaw.ca/aldrichevangelista/DSC00793.jpg

MaxBoost_R setting up the clutch pedal assembly:
http://members.shaw.ca/aldrichevangelista/DSC00794.jpg

After a week of sitting in Cocoabrovas garage (mostly waiting for parts), on Saturday, April 23, 2005 at 11:50pm, 1-bar's Prelude disappeared:
http://members.shaw.ca/aldrichevangelista/DSC00797.jpg

Spy night photos show that it made it outside on its very own JDM LSD manual tranny, and the ghost driver appears to be vanishing:
http://members.shaw.ca/aldrichevangelista/DSC00815.jpg



THE END! :clap:

[finboy]

that last pic is awsome

[Chester]

Originally posted by CivicDXR
OK people, here are the pics... this was in no way or form a "how-to" pic session, we were just taking pics whenever we felt like it, so we really don't have any technical pics, so don't ask :poosie:

here we go (pics have been resized to be internet friendly):
.....

1-Bar: "Um, do you guys know what you're doing?"
http://members.shaw.ca/aldrichevangelista/DSC00716.jpg

Cocoabrova (right): "I think so..."
MaxBoost_R (under car): "Yo, what IS thaaaat?"
http://members.shaw.ca/aldrichevangelista/DSC00717.jpg
.....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[1-Bar]

thanks for the pics Rich......that is a fine camera you have dere...

[Gadgetboy]

Originally posted by CivicDXR

1-Bar: "Um, do you guys know what you're doing?"
http://members.shaw.ca/aldrichevangelista/DSC00716.jpg

1-bar, you look like your ready to go to the bar!:rofl:
Good work attire!

[1-Bar]

lol....I didn't do much...that is outta my realm of knowledge....I was mostley a pylon for the week....

and for the record, that pic was taken when we first were starting, didn't have my coveralls on yet.....

[BigBearWest]

Wicked job guys. Congrats :thumbsup:

[ryder_23]

Originally posted by 1-Bar
lol....I didn't do much...that is outta my realm of knowledge....I was mostley a pylon for the week....

and for the record, that pic was taken when we first were starting, didn't have my coveralls on yet.....

I demand pictures of these "coveralls" that chris was "wearing" when he was actually "helping" :rofl:

just joking chris. Makes me jealous that besides the fact you have a way nicer car then me, that you have an lsd :drool:

good work :thumbsup:

[fcuk_it]

did u swap the tranny cuz it was gonna blow or u wanted a 5speed??
did u use a h22a1 tranny or a h22a4???

[7thgenvic]

hehehe! well its nice to see that your not driving an AUTO anymore! yikes! and to think you had time to study as well in the last 7 days! veryyyy impressed mr. chris sir! Do you have recaro's to match? :) jk

[LUDELVR]

Originally posted by cocoabrova


I think I can build a complete BB6 from scratch now:banghead:
haha, no doubt man, after working on Kev's car and Chris'! Shit, you're the lude masta...just get ready, cuz we gotta pull my shit out when and if I ever get back!! haha, so I hope you still have some love for preludes by the time I get back! ;) :rofl:

[rc2002]

Originally posted by fcuk_it
did u swap the tranny cuz it was gonna blow or u wanted a 5speed??
did u use a h22a1 tranny or a h22a4???

M2B4 only came in JDM fourth gens. Only the M2B4 and M2Z4 have LSD! :D

*edit* The accord trannies with LSD that will also work on the H22 are the T2W4 (Accord Euro-R) and U2Q7 (Accord Type-R). :thumbsup:

[1-Bar]

Originally posted by fcuk_it
did u swap the tranny cuz it was gonna blow or u wanted a 5speed??
did u use a h22a1 tranny or a h22a4???

I been wanting a 5 speed swap for a long time now.....I probably wouldn't do it if it was a non-LSD tranny....

As for which one I used, EK 2.0 pretty much summed it up....any prelude tranny no matter what gen. and some select accords can match up to the h-series motor....

[GQBalla]

Very nice work!
around how much did the entire process take? what if you had to pay for labour?

[dkny_stylez]

^^^yeah, what was the total cost for the parts?

[1-Bar]

well, we'll just say labour prolly cost $1500 and parts would be another $1000-2000 depending on what you get new/used for your average person.....

not no where near what I paid.....:D

[1-Bar]

some specs on the tranny:

M2B4 - 3.307 - 1.950 - 1.360 - 1.071 - 0.787 - 4.266 LSD


*same as the 4th gen lude tranny (M2A4) but with LSD :D

[cocoabrova]

Originally posted by 1-Bar
well, we'll just say labour prolly cost $1500 and parts would be another $1000-2000 depending on what you get new/used for your average person.....

not no where near what I paid.....:D


Hmmmmmmmm........Interesting..........
:guns: :guns:
:poosie:

[1-Bar]

Originally posted by cocoabrova



Hmmmmmmmm........Interesting..........
:guns: :guns:
:poosie:


errr.....yeah, cheque's in the mail!!

[civic_rida]

so why is your idle messed up and why are you running a basemap.

Wasnt the manual ecu able to be swapped in?

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by civic_rida
so why is your idle messed up and why are you running a basemap.

Wasnt the manual ecu able to be swapped in?


Because Chris opted to run a P28 chipped with Uberdata ECU...vs. an OEM H22 Manual Transmission ECU...so the chip was blank and an H22 Basemap burned onto it...The idle will be funny, because it was burnt for someone else's set-up...and until Chris can hit the dyno to get it tuned for his application there will be some hiccups...

[civic_rida]

but an oem h22 manual trans could of been used .

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by civic_rida
but an oem h22 manual trans could of been used .


yes but then everything is static...no fuel maps can be adjusted...this way he can fine tune and extract more power from N/A mods or when he does go turbo...its a standalone...

[gpomp]

standalone or stock ecu, geez i wonder which i'll use....

[Skyline_Addict]

this and now the mugen wheels.

chris likes to be the first person to do something hehe.

what's next, are we going to have the first asian prime minister? :D

[civic_rida]

I know i know standalone is better but i thought maybe it just wouldnt work .

[gpomp]

standalone will work fine as long as you have the right basemap.

[1-Bar]

Originally posted by civic_rida
but an oem h22 manual trans could of been used .

Finding an OBDII Prelude manual ECU is hard....expensive through the dealership. And if I got it used, I would need a new red key to reprogram the immobilizer for the new ecu, or a new immobilizer, new locks for the doors and trunk.....all in the name of stock. No thanks.....

[rage2]

I have a better basemap for H22's if you want... based on Leo's setup.

[1-Bar]

near stock setup?? If so, I would like it plz!! :D

[1-Bar]

ahhhh.....the missing piece to the puzzle. Finally complete!!

http://members.shaw.ca/cponce1/cluster.jpg
notice anything??

[88CRX]

how will you ever know what gear your in :rofl:

[bonnieclyde240]

wow, congrats!! :clap:

[1-Bar]

Originally posted by 88CRX
how will you ever know what gear your in :rofl:

hahhaa.....very funny man :D I was going along the lines of no MPH....lol

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by 1-Bar
ahhhh.....the missing piece to the puzzle. Finally complete!!

http://members.shaw.ca/cponce1/cluster.jpg
notice anything??



oooooo you are TRULY a JDM PIMP my good friend...

[88CRX]

Originally posted by 1-Bar


hahhaa.....very funny man :D I was going along the lines of no MPH....lol

uhhhhhh


ya that too :D

[CivicDXR]

Originally posted by 1-Bar
ahhhh.....the missing piece to the puzzle. Finally complete!!

http://members.shaw.ca/cponce1/cluster.jpg
notice anything??

sweet... when r we putting it in? or is it in already... call me, I've got one more call left...

[Skyline_Addict]

the jdm cluster only difference is the speedo range, right? chris, if you can remove that CF cover on your old cluster, i'll take it off ya! :D

[1-Bar]

mmm.....still debating on whether I keep it or not....I'll let you know...speedo range, no MPH and the warning lights are a little different....

[CalgarySupra]

Originally posted by CivicDXR


sweet... when r we putting it in? or is it in already... call me, I've got one more call left...


cool, are you going to roll it up so the km is consistant?