Some pics i took....no pro...would want help and tips

[ae8polishman]

well i dicided to take some pics today...the weather was nice and i was board....when i uploaded the pics i got alot of noise in them.>??? iam using a Canon powershot G3...can any one give me some tips or if any one has a G3 tell me how to get the best pics.....here are some samples what i have taken today and in the past...;) note i did not use auto set up...most of these where taken with 1/6000 and f of 6-8...and all of them where with out a tripod

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/180_8091.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/181_8101.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/180_8095.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/180_8093.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/180_8087.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/176_7674.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/176_7661.jpg

some when i went to a meet
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/dd8cd548.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/171_7163.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/168_6803.jpg
any tips will be put to the test....thanks

[403Gemini]

when i saw the flowers i was convinced the breast bug was going to be the last picture... i dont know why.. SEE WHAT THIS FORUM HAS DONE TO ME!!!

[D'z Nutz]

White balance looks off on the first batch of flower pics and the car shot, unless that's what you were going for. #2 and #3 are too overexposed for my liking.

[Thaco]

I dont see the noise you are refering to, but if you want to decrease noise you need to decrease your iso setting.

[ae8polishman]

pic one and three have some noise...and can u tell me what the f in f80 stand...is it the amount of sun that is going though the lense?

[Thaco]

F is the F stop this depends on your lens on how far open it can be, the lower the number the more open it is, this allows you to take photo's in lower light situations without having a long shutter, high iso, or flash.

[ae8polishman]

so...if its dim out , the lower the f the brighter the pic...but the f gots higher when i zoom in...is that because less light is getting though...and whats iso?

[Thaco]

no, the iso depends on the lense... thas why people prefer f2.8 on zoom lenses because they can run f2.8 for the full range, but most low end zooms have something like for example F4-5.6 which means it is max f stop of 4 on the low end and 5.6 on the high end... with your cam it probably does not have a good fstop range as it is made as a P&S

[Ben]

Originally posted by Thaco
no, the iso depends on the lense... thas why people prefer f2.8 on zoom lenses because they can run f2.8 for the full range, but most low end zooms have something like for example F4-5.6 which means it is max f stop of 4 on the low end and 5.6 on the high end... with your cam it probably does not have a good fstop range as it is made as a P&S

I would have to disagree.

ISO is completely independant of what lens you use. ISO is the films (ccd, cmos sensors) sensitivity to light. You increase the iso to get a faster shutter speed in low light conditions, or extremely fast sports captures, to avoit camera shake, blue, underexposure.

Most arrays are 100-200-400-800-1600-3200 (this is my cameras capability anyways) Sometimes cameras will offer a 50ISO, but being I have a professional grade D-SLR my sensor quality is is of the quality that it's not really neccessary, where as low end cameras show brutal grain at anything over 100ISO. (this is why you NEVER buy a camera based on Megapixels, but based on sensor quality. So many people get caught up in the megapixel hype..)

F Stop is how big your aperture is, allowing more or less light into the camera. The smaller the number, the larger the hole so to speak.

I think what you are mentioning as far as ISO and F number is that you need to bump up your cameras ISO to let in more light when you've already got your aperture open to it's largest. However when you are doing artistic photos, over and under exposure are sometimes desired, and as such, ISO and The ability of your lens to go to an uber low f/stop are no more dependant of each other than an apple growing on a tree cares about a tech stock broker on wallstreet.



As far as the photos go, and this is purely constructive as you said you want input, and it WILL help you take even better photos, because they arn't by all means bad, the white balance is totally off what should be normally seen, in day time photos, whites should be WHITE, not blue, not green, adds depth to the photo. It shows you were using a Canon G3 for these photos, with manual white balance. I definatly would have left it on auto white balance for pretty much all of them. This is of course my opinion, if this was the look you were going for thats fine. Try using a longer shutter speed with a smaller aperture on your night time car shots, adds clarity as well as sharper lines, and adds a staring effect to any light sources. This is nearly impossible to do however on low end digi cams as the lens are of such poor quality it cant perform this look.

I'll use some of my photos for examples. I always use manual feature on my camera, and white balances are usually manual also, however through experience and having a completely customizable set up, they generally turn out proper.

http://www.virgeweb.com/Ben/Daisy.jpg

http://www.virgeweb.com/Ben/ZOO06.JPG

an example of decreasing the size of your aperture on darker shots for clarity:
8 second exposure, iso 100, f8, manual white balance.

http://www.psylence.com/Calgary004.jpg



With rolling shots, this is where you want to manipulate your aperture as well.:
http://www.psylence.com/Clem006.jpg

Your car photo was at f2, and iso at 100, manual white balance, and 1/6th of a second, next time, try an f8, @ 5-6 seconds on the lowest iso you can, and use a tripod indefinatly if you arn't already.

http://www.virgeweb.com/Ben/bhTT01.jpg

As far as getting nice crisp BLACK on dark shots, this is 100% sensor quality. Low end ones will show grain, and black will look grey, kinda like using 8bit color on an old computer, looks like ass.

http://www.virgeweb.com/Ben/DRINK02.JPG

[Thaco]

my mistake, i was meaning the DOF or fstop is dependant on the lense, sorry.

[Ben]

Originally posted by Thaco
my mistake, i was meaning the DOF or fstop is dependant on the lense, sorry.

This is correct. Smaller the F number, the less area in view that is in focus.

Depth of Field:
http://www.virgeweb.com/Ben/psylence/Bimmerfest04/images/2949.jpg
http://www.virgeweb.com/Ben/psylence/Bimmerfest04/images/2969.jpg
http://www.virgeweb.com/Ben/psylence/Bimmerfest04/images/2987.jpg

[ae8polishman]

thanks alot...ill take some pics on the next sunny day and we will se if these tips helped me out....iam also think of getting a new camera....i was thinking of the nikon d70 and d100....iam not sure on the lense i wanna get on it...and also what other d-slrs are out there for around 1500....and also...wat lenses would u guy reccomand?...thanks

[ae8polishman]

also when my camera focus i get a +1 +2 0-1or -2 ...wat dose that mean>

[Thaco]

You can get a used canon 300d/digital rebel for probably like $1000 easily. and thats what most entry level dlsr users get.

and the lens purely depends on your budget and what you are shooting, you can get lenses from a couple hundred dollars to tens of thousands.

[lint]

Originally posted by ae8polishman
also when my camera focus i get a +1 +2 0-1or -2 ...wat dose that mean>

That is exposure compensation/correction. When you set it lower that 0, you are under exposing the shot, making it appear darker. When you set it above 0, you are over exposing the shot, making it appear brighter. When you shoot in manual, that area will give you an idea of what the exposure is. When shooting in Av or Tv modes, you can set the exposure, and the other parameter will be adjusted accordingly so that you get that exposure.

Hope that makes sense.

[ae8polishman]

up to 2300 cnd tax in...price range

[Ben]

Originally posted by ae8polishman
thanks alot...ill take some pics on the next sunny day and we will se if these tips helped me out....iam also think of getting a new camera....i was thinking of the nikon d70 and d100....iam not sure on the lense i wanna get on it...and also what other d-slrs are out there for around 1500....and also...wat lenses would u guy reccomand?...thanks

Buy a used Canon Digital Rebel, a 50mm f/1.8, a 17-40 f/4L and a 70-200mm f/4L. Will cover MOST shooting aspects.

Could get all this for around 2000-2500 depending on if you find them used.

[ae8polishman]

ebay?????is the0 f 1.8 for night shots?

[ae8polishman]

well i tryed some of ur tips out...i got the first 3 pics as white i a could with my knowlage...there pretty nice and clean...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/181_8135.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/181_8134.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/181_8133.jpg
next we have a flower i took....i think i got the lighting pretty good....i followed the little number and it was on zero...look nice....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/181_8149.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/181_8148.jpg

and the rest are pics of my watchs....the first five are in room lighting...and last two are indark areas with some light with the hands glowing....about 5-8 sec expore...also playing around with the focus...thats why ones always blurry and the other nice...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/181_8155.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/181_8154.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/181_8153.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/181_8151.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/181_8150.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/181_81681.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/181_8168.jpg

tell me what u think

[D'z Nutz]

Originally posted by ae8polishman
ebay?????is the0 f 1.8 for night shots?

If you're looking for used stuff, I'd check out the Fred Miranda forums. Lots of goodies there. Personally, I don't mind purchasing used stuff. Most of the photographers tend to take very good care of their gear and can verify whether or not the copy of the lens is sharp.

The 50mm f/1.8 isn't just for night shots, however it's a fast enough lens that makes it pretty suitable for night time photos. It's a very popular lens, and will probably be the cheapest one you'll ever find.

[ae8polishman]

any particler brand? sigma , nikon???canon

[turboMiata]

hey, i used to shoot a G3. it's an awesome camera and works really good for what it is.

forget what these guys are saying about auto white balance. on canons, it does not work. period. the proper way to do it is to shoot a white card, which is a big PITA. i only do that in mixed lighting situations when i need to be 100% exactly sure. personally, i'd say shoot in RAW then correct in post. the G3 can do all of the above.

unless you are really going hardcore into photography, the G3 will meet most of your needs as it's versatile and compact. the 4MP processor can handle up to 8x10 prints relatively well too.

btw, you need to fix the suspension on your viper. i think it's bottoming out.

[dro-phlow]

tennis ball pic is the best:thumbsup:

[FiveFreshFish]

Originally posted by ae8polishman
tell me what u think

You need some separation between your photos when you post a bunch together.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/polakskill/181_8101.jpg


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