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trikypenguin
05-31-2005, 11:01 PM
well seeing as how my ka24 has just about finally had it i was looking around at getting a new engine into my car (1990 240sx). rigth now i'm thinking of an s14 blacktop but was just looking for some opinions, also does anyone know how much an rb26 from a skyline would cost??

BlkMaxima
05-31-2005, 11:06 PM
Give the guys at autodream a ring.... i think the # is 248-1566!!

dj_rice
05-31-2005, 11:17 PM
Just look at the sponsors list, there are a few shops that can give u some ideas for a motor swap suggestions

blizare
06-02-2005, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by BlkMaxima
Give the guys at autodream a ring.... i think the # is 248-1566!!

I'd call Marvin too. But I'd prolly also call JDM source.

ex1z7
06-03-2005, 04:36 PM
Well not including labour ... a CA18DET will run you around 1500, an SR20 redtop will be about 2000, an SR20 blacktop would be about 2300/2400.. an RB20DET would be about 2000, RB25 I'd say is around 3000 and an RB26DETT would be nearer to the 6000 range, but you'll need a few parts for it to work in a 240.. RB25 tranny etc. and the KA24DE would shoot you around 1200 I'd say ?

Someone can correct me if you know more accurate numbers..

Zephyr
06-06-2005, 12:44 AM
there are some issues with S14 into a S13 as well... just go S13 blacktop..its a straight drop in..

if u get a rb, ur car will be too nose happy...

dam waaay to many ppl jumping into the bandwagon thinking they can just drop in anything and think they can control it..

trikypenguin
06-06-2005, 10:33 AM
lol not jumpin on the band wagon buddy, been looking for a swap since i got the car, and i'm wanting to be unique more or less, not just running out and dropping in whatever i can get my hands on.

Zephyr
06-06-2005, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by trikypenguin
lol not jumpin on the band wagon buddy, been looking for a swap since i got the car, and i'm wanting to be unique more or less, not just running out and dropping in whatever i can get my hands on.

rb isnt unique... if u can fit a vq in there, that's unique

trikypenguin
06-06-2005, 12:26 PM
ya but how much are those?? i'm not lookin to spend a fortune here, so i'm goin with engines within about 3-4k

BerserkerCatSplat
06-06-2005, 02:44 PM
At JDMsource, the VG30DE (non-turbo) runs $1400, and the VG30DETT (twin-turbo) costs $2300.

For comparison, the redtop S13 SR20DET goes for $1750.

Now, the VG swap would be very unique idea, but i'm not quite sure how feasable it would be. Shoehorning that V6 into the space left behind by the old inline 4 could be quite a task.

EstoMax
06-06-2005, 06:39 PM
the v6 is theoretically shorter.. so it COULD fit.. it is wider though..

but 240's got a wideass engine bay to begin with

trikypenguin
06-06-2005, 07:51 PM
ya i've already asked about a vg30dett, i think it was autodream i called and the guy i talked to said he wouldn't want to try it, and i don't have a huge budget to work with for custom parts and stuff

TypeS
06-07-2005, 07:53 AM
uummm is nobody listening to zephyr? putting a motor like the VG30DETT in the nose of an S13 (has been done, check n-e-c-c.com) isnt worth doing unless your making a car that will just go balls deep in a straight line, that thing will understeer so bad you'll be best friends with the concrete barriers in NO time flat:dunno:

I'd stick with an SR, they were built tested and designed for S13's, they provide an almost PERFECT 50/50 weight balance, and they are potent enough to supply you with all the power you'll want! thats why they're so popular!!! its not just because its JDM, its because its a perfect match for the car:thumbsup:

trikypenguin
06-07-2005, 08:01 AM
well what would u say about an rb25?

TypeS
06-07-2005, 08:07 AM
do some research and check out the weight difference of that and an SR/CA/KA, I think the RB series motors are close enough that it wont hurt your handling too much. With the RB's, not only do you have to buy the motor/tranny, you also have to modify all your mounts/driveshaft and i think since the RB's are longer, you will need an electric fan setup. If your going to be paying a shop to do an rb in your 240 it will cost quite a lot more labour-wise than an S13 motor, but the output of the RB25 would be pretty sweet:burnout:

trikypenguin
06-07-2005, 08:28 AM
ya i think i'm gonna call up speedtech today and get more details

Zephyr
06-08-2005, 01:42 AM
RB = NOSE HAPPY.

and dude, not VG, im talkign about the VQ!!! the one in the G35 and 350z.... not the Z32 fairlady..the z33!!

man...honestly there is no uniqueness, almost everything has been done... just find a hot model to sit on the hood and there you go.

honestly just go for a blackstop s13.. thats what im doing this summer.. its better market support (and trust me, cali has the best support down here for anything and yet im staying away from skyline engines, so imagine canada) it is what your car is designed for.

Lo)2enz0
06-08-2005, 01:59 AM
ca18det power all the way.

remember children aluminum is ment for pop cans, not engine blocks

ha ha ha, sorry guys I had to do it. But the sr20 is a great engine, i have been thinking about getting one but I have loved ca18's since I got into s13's. But hey in 2 years I plan on importing a s14, so I guess thats when I will experience a sr20 but until than ca18's are the shiat.

they also have a crappy aftermarket support in north america compared to the almighty sr20

blizare
06-08-2005, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by Lo)2enz0
ca18det power all the way.

remember children aluminum is ment for pop cans, not engine blocks


werd to your mom

ca's fo sho

bundi
06-10-2005, 08:24 PM
whats the difference between black/redtop sr20's?


I believe I saw em on Autodream's homepage, they have custom engine mounts and everything you need to put an RB series into an s13 clip.


Personally from what I've read, RB's into 240's seem kinda pointless, the sr20 was designed for the car and they're bulletproof motors, the extra money you would spend on having a "unique" swap could be spent towards other performance/suspension mods which, for the same price the SR car would be better rounded. Not to mention that the Sr20 has WAY more aftermarket support and is more common - cheaper parts.


I mean... if you want just a lil more speed and don't care about money or tricky mechanical work just sell your S13 and get a DSM
:tongue:

dymz999
06-10-2005, 09:49 PM
You want to be unique, and have a good engine, hell you could be one of an extreme few, FJ20ET swap, i'm sure if you asked jdm source to find one for you they could. FJ20 motors are nuts!

VG30DETT swap in the 240sx Chasis firstly will not work due to the fact the one turbo will not clear the rack.

There is one VG30DET in the states that put down some serious numbers. The issue there is that you need to relocate the brake master cylinder to fit the engine in since the intake manifold interfers with the brake master cylinder.

S14 engine into S13 engine is not that complicated for the record, just a bit of wiring.

S13 into S13 is about as easy as it gets though. I personally think the S14 engine is not much of an advantage as the VVC isn't as big as help as you'd think.

Zephyr
06-11-2005, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by bundi
whats the difference between black/redtop sr20's?

mainly milage and age... im not 100% sure