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CrAzY_PLaYa
01-29-2003, 09:50 AM
What do you guys think the fastest car is out there?

Id say the most powerful car on the road is the 6-wheeled, Jameson-Merlin, powered by a 27 Litre, 1760 BHP Rolls Royce V12 Merlin engine, it weighs 2.65 tons and can travel 300 miles on its 60 gallon tank.

MistaBrent
01-29-2003, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by CrAzY_PLaYa
What do you guys think the fastest car is out there?

Id say the most powerful car on the road is the 6-wheeled, Jameson-Merlin, powered by a 27 Litre, 1760 BHP Rolls Royce V12 Merlin engine, it weighs 2.65 tons and can travel 300 miles on its 60 gallon tank.


Honestly. My car is without a doubt the fastest.

"supa charged"

LaughingTiger
01-29-2003, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by CrAzY_PLaYa
What do you guys think the fastest car is out there?

Id say the most powerful car on the road is the 6-wheeled, Jameson-Merlin, powered by a 27 Litre, 1760 BHP Rolls Royce V12 Merlin engine, it weighs 2.65 tons and can travel 300 miles on its 60 gallon tank.



Come on...I never seen one of those on the street, actually i've never seen one period... "on the road" is this a production street legal car..???

boi-alien
01-29-2003, 10:23 AM
i always thought the fastest production vehicle was the maclaren F1

CrAzY_PLaYa
01-29-2003, 10:28 AM
http://www.regalauctions.com/Cartalk/didyouknow.htm

RiceCake
01-29-2003, 11:32 AM
That quad turbo bugatti should be pretty damn quick... :)

Hakkola
01-29-2003, 11:34 AM
Depends on what you mean by fastest, top speed? 0-60? 0-100? Track times??

pHaCeLeSs
01-29-2003, 11:38 AM
any car with enough money :D

Ben
01-29-2003, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by RiceCake
That quad turbo bugatti should be pretty damn quick... :)


It is...holds the record as of now I believe

CVPP
01-29-2003, 11:49 AM
I though the new lambo was...the name escapes as of now...but I know it is street legal *i saw one* (wow!) anyway....Does anyone know anything about it?

XylathaneGTR
01-29-2003, 11:58 AM
The Bugatti EB 119 Quad Turbo (i think its EB119), The Bugatti 16/24 Veryon Concept as well. McLaren f1, F50 GT, and the CLK-GTR. oh yeah, and the Konniegsieg CC. Audi R8 FSi
What about that Street Legal Porsche that won the LeMans in 94 or 96?
I dont think the Marguciello (spelling?) is one of the fastest...

CVPP
01-29-2003, 12:05 PM
Thats the name....nah you are right i just did some research it isn't near the fastest.

KoRnJD
01-29-2003, 12:15 PM
I'm pretty sure the Volkswagen Nardo (W12) Sports Car set several world records. Too bad it won't make it into production...or will it? ;)

http://www.auto-salon-singen.de/VW/vw_nardo_w12_xxxx_xx_01_06_01.jpg
http://www.auto-salon-singen.de/VW/vw_nardo_w12_xxxx_xx_01_06_02.jpg
http://www.auto-salon-singen.de/VW/vw_nardo_w12_xxxx_xx_01_06_03.jpg
http://www.auto-salon-singen.de/VW/vw_nardo_w12_xxxx_xx_01_06_04.jpg
http://www.auto-salon-singen.de/VW/vw_nardo_w12_xxxx_xx_01_06_09.jpg
http://www.auto-salon-singen.de/VW/vw_nardo_w12_xxxx_xx_01_06_10.jpg
http://www.vwvortex.com/news/02_02/02_27_02/nardo.jpg
http://www.vwvortex.com/news/02_02/02_27_02/engine.jpg

Overview of new speed records:

100 kilometres: International class record at 322.46 km/h
100 miles: International class record at 325.593 km/h
1 hour: International class record at 328.16 km/h
500 kilometres: International class record at 324.67 km/h
500 miles: International class record at 327.39 km/h
1000 kilometres: International class record at 325.28 km/h
1000 miles: International class record and world speed record at 325.86 km/h
6 hours: International class record and world speed record at 325.58 km/h
12 hours: International class record and world speed record at 324.88 km/h
5000 kilometres: International class record and world speed record at 324.85 km/h
24 hours: International class record and world speed record at 322.89 km/h
5000 miles: International class record and world speed record at 323.03 km/h

:clap:

KoRnJD
01-29-2003, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by XylathaneGTR

I dont think the Marguciello (spelling?) is one of the fastest...

...Murciélago...

:)

finboy
01-29-2003, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by KoRnJD
I'm pretty sure the Volkswagen Nardo (W12) Sports Car set several world records. Too bad it won't make it into production...or will it? ;)

http://www.auto-salon-singen.de/VW/vw_nardo_w12_xxxx_xx_01_06_01.jpg


:clap:

:thumbsup: :love: :burnout:

XylathaneGTR
01-29-2003, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by KoRnJD


...Murciélago...

:)
Blah, i was close :D
As for that VW...It looks...Alrite i guess...I would just shave off the giant VW emblems :D
That carbon splitter in the back looks good tho :D

___2PaC___
01-29-2003, 01:51 PM
Whoa....look at that VW

Hakkola
01-29-2003, 02:06 PM
That VW is basically a Lambo isn't it, don't they own lamborghini??

I'm pretty sure the sl55 and sl600 are faster than the Murciélago in everything except for the 0-60, I could be wrong though.

mwmhong
01-29-2003, 02:15 PM
Thrust SSC



http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Andy_Graves/Top_View.jpg

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Andy_Graves/Shock.jpg

SuperSONIC-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!

Silencer
01-29-2003, 02:33 PM
Ruf is considered a separate manufacturer from porsche, and they go up to 1000hp. The Ruf R Turbo holds the fastest track time for a production car at the Nuremburgring last time i checked.

Silencer
01-29-2003, 02:34 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mwmhong
Thrust SSC




:hitit:

GTS Jeff
01-29-2003, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by mwmhong
Thrust SSC



http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Andy_Graves/Top_View.jpg
SuperSONIC-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!!!! looks like something out of star wars :)

XylathaneGTR
01-29-2003, 03:55 PM
The M3 CLS concept did 30sec less then a standard M3 at Nurumburgring. 19 inch Rims w/ 17 inch (i think)brake rotors ohhhhhh
Thurst SCC isint really much of a car...I thought the topic was more on cars you could like, drive around to work and stuff.

lammer
01-29-2003, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by mwmhong
Thrust SSC
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Andy_Graves/Shock.jpg

SuperSONIC-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!

oh lord!! that is :nut: :nut:

STI-Guy
01-29-2003, 06:14 PM
What's faster in terms of top speed: the McFarlen F1 or the Bugatti EB119?

Ben
01-29-2003, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by STI-Guy
What's faster in terms of top speed: the McFarlen F1 or the Bugatti EB119?


Bugatti...391 in the McLaren vs a few clicks over 400 in the Veyron.


Can I paint you a picture of how fast this thing is?

In less time it takes most of the people on this forum to finish the quarter mile, this car has accellerated from a standstill to over 300km/h

0-300km/h in 13.8 seconds.

Here are some specs:

http://www.psylence.com/Junk/BugattiVeyronSpecs.jpg

http://www.vwvortex.com/news/09_01/bugatti/02.jpg

http://www.vwvortex.com/news/09_01/bugatti/05.jpg


Write up done by VW Vortex (http://www.vwvortex.com/news/09_01/bugatti/index.shtml)

D'z Nutz
01-29-2003, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by mwmhong
Thrust SSC



Fuck, I was watching that thing in action on the Discovery Channel when the British (Thrust SSC) and the Americans (can't remember what their vehicle was called) were competing to see who could break the sound barrier on land first. It was amazing to see all the testing and design techniques they used.

In the end, neither broke the sound barrier because they both suffered complications. :(

Dope Dealer
01-29-2003, 08:47 PM
That VW has a handful of records listed in the new 2003 Guiness World Book of Records.

XylathaneGTR
01-29-2003, 08:54 PM
That engine is SEXAY!
So industrial and sleek...
The styling on the Veryon and the EB119 are a little, controversial, but personally, I love them.
On supercars, there was a big post about Crashtesting, and a bunch of photos of EB's, McLarens, f50's, F355's, etc all being ripped apart. Another photo showed about, 40 crashed ferrari's in a big long stack outside, rusting away.

4wheeldrift
01-29-2003, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by XylathaneGTR

On supercars, there was a big post about Crashtesting, and a bunch of photos of EB's, McLarens, f50's, F355's, etc all being ripped apart. Another photo showed about, 40 crashed ferrari's in a big long stack outside, rusting away. The long, hard road to certification as a street driven vehicle in the united states. Why do you think a R34 skyline costs $90k USD by the time motorex is done with it?

Matrix1
01-31-2003, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by CrAzY_PLaYa
What do you guys think the fastest car is out there?

Id say the most powerful car on the road is the 6-wheeled, Jameson-Merlin, powered by a 27 Litre, 1760 BHP Rolls Royce V12 Merlin engine, it weighs 2.65 tons and can travel 300 miles on its 60 gallon tank.

Which car is the fastest, most powerfull or accelerates the best?

You do know power is a funny thing, you can have a 300hp car do the quartar in 13 secs and another car the same hp do it in 15.

But, i think the beast road legal car is the maclaren F1 LM

Mikko
01-31-2003, 08:12 AM
From 1998..

Autocar magazine performed a test in Nurburgring track with this (Caterham Superlight R) car against Porsche new 911 Carrera (300hp), Ruf 911 CTR2 (520hp) and Nissan Skyline GTR (280hp, 4wd, 4ws), the lap time is amazingly found as follows :

Caterham Superlight R .......... 8 min 6.2 sec
Ruf 911 CTR2 ....................... 8 min 15.0 sec
Nissan Skyline GTR .............. 8 min 28.1 sec
Porsche 911 Carrera ............. 8 min 38.4 sec

Benefited by the light weight and superbly balanced chassis, the Superlight R ran considerably faster than others in bends, although it lost a lot of time in fighting with drag in straights. Road tester found it handles very much better than others, it is virtually a racing car.

Nurburgring is usually regarded as the best place to test a car's real world performance - it has high speed straights as well as a hundred bends with different speeds. The Superlight R broke the track record for non-modified road car, so, maybe we can call it "the fastest car in the world". Hard to accept ? Ferrari F50, McLaren F1, Nismo Skyline 400R and Porsche 911 GT1 (this is really a racing car!) might be faster, but until they are tested in Nurburgring, the Caterham still remains to be the King.

Then in 1999 they tested the Caterham 7 R500 In late '99, it set a new lap record of Nurburgring in 7 min 55.21 sec, marginally faster than the previous record holder Porsche 911GT3.

4wheeldrift
01-31-2003, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by Mikko

Caterham Superlight R .......... 8 min 6.2 sec
Ruf 911 CTR2 ....................... 8 min 15.0 sec
Nissan Skyline GTR .............. 8 min 28.1 sec
Porsche 911 Carrera ............. 8 min 38.4 sec

Hard to accept ? Ferrari F50, McLaren F1, Nismo Skyline 400R and Porsche 911 GT1 (this is really a racing car!) might be faster, but until they are tested in Nurburgring, the Caterham still remains to be the King. Simply add lightness :D Colin Chapman 0wnZ j00!

Mikko
01-31-2003, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Benny
Write up done by VW Vortex (http://www.vwvortex.com/news/09_01/bugatti/index.shtml)

Goddamnit, so many websites fail to show the weight of a car, quietly hiding it. Seems to be especially the case in north america. lol. I guess it's a technicality most people don't care about :devil:

4wheeldrift
01-31-2003, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by Mikko


Goddamnit, so many websites fail to show the weight of a car, quietly hiding it. Seems to be especially the case in north america. lol. I guess it's a technicality most people don't care about :devil: Because you can effectively ignore the weight of a vehicle if the suspension is set up well. Sure, more weight can hurt acceleration but it does nice things for traction, and well designed cars don't handle like they weigh 3XXX pounds.

Mikko
02-01-2003, 01:31 AM
Hmm are you serious? Grip does increase during vertical load but at a declining rate (i.e. as the vehicle weight increases the actual grip when loaded laterally becomes smaller and smaller the more the vehicle weighs). As such is it not possible to ignore the weight of a vehicle.

It will hurt braking, accelleration, unsprung weight (if you want to have larger tyres and brakes to keep it drivable) etc.

Of course a better than average handling car, even if heavy, will feel smaller and lighter than it is.

Doesn't the effects of weight become far more felt the less traction there is, too?

mrmattyk
02-01-2003, 01:35 AM
I thought it was a jaguar that was the fastest car. I heard this 2 years ago, so I am sure the record has been broken many times since then.

4wheeldrift
02-01-2003, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by Mikko
Hmm are you serious? Grip does increase during vertical load but at a declining rate (i.e. as the vehicle weight increases the actual grip when loaded laterally becomes smaller and smaller the more the vehicle weighs). As such is it not possible to ignore the weight of a vehicle.

It will hurt braking, accelleration, unsprung weight (if you want to have larger tyres and brakes to keep it drivable) etc.

Of course a better than average handling car, even if heavy, will feel smaller and lighter than it is.

Doesn't the effects of weight become far more felt the less traction there is, too? I said "effectively" ignore the weight of the car, not ignore it completely. There's a difference between not noticing and and not caring. And yes, lighter is better for ultra high performance applications, but for almost everyone on the planet this isn't a factor. You shouldn't look down on a vehicle just because its "heavy", because you are going to miss out on some very good rides. Most racing series have minimum weights anyways, so its not like every car out there has to be an F1 machine. Hell, the WRC has an FIA mandated minimum weight of 1260kg (almost 2800lbs for the metrically impaired). That is not particularly light. I'd rather have a lighter car than a heavy one, but I'm not going to buy a car based on its weight (or potential weight) alone. I'm not saying ignore how much a vehicle weighs, just have a more pratical view on what effect it has on performance. On most high performance cars the impact is not nearly as much as you think.

Mikko
02-01-2003, 10:14 AM
Depends on the application I would say. I like it slippery :thumbsup:

And it's 1230kg, not 1260.

4wheeldrift
02-01-2003, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by Mikko
Depends on the application I would say. I like it slippery :thumbsup:

And it's 1230kg, not 1260. 2800 lbs vs 2700, still heavy :D

Glowrider
02-01-2003, 03:47 PM
As for that VW...It looks...Alrite i guess

Keep in mind, with these cars, it's mostly about function. Function dictates how these cars look.

Hakkola
02-01-2003, 05:53 PM
I never really thought the veyron was beautiful until those pics, it looks GREAT from the back, I don't like the interior much but who really cares when it can do what it does.

m@+CH
02-03-2003, 05:07 PM
yeah i woudl say
w12 VW
mclaren f1
mercedes has a f1 car
but then again there r wrc cars that have 1000 plus hp
so the thing is.. in my opinion
who ever has the most money, could have the fastest car ^_^

GTS Jeff
02-03-2003, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by m@+CH
there r wrc cars that have 1000 plus hpim sorry but thats going in the sig

three.eighteen.
02-06-2003, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by 4wheeldrift
Because you can effectively ignore the weight of a vehicle if the suspension is set up well. Sure, more weight can hurt acceleration but it does nice things for traction, and well designed cars don't handle like they weigh 3XXX pounds.

:werd: a nice suspension is a cool thing to have

if wrc cars had 1000hp...it would be like F1 on dirt

bent turbo
02-24-2005, 06:11 PM
9ff (a porsche tuner) just pushed a 911 1 mph over the Mclaren at Nardo.

McLaren is hardly a production car, they took how many years to hit 100 units, and they stopped there. Proto plus 99.

Remove tuners from the mix, and cars that AREN'T produced and it's Koenigsegg CCR 242 mph/ 390 kph

It's a shame that North America is so restricted. There's so many good cars in Europe. There is life beyond Lamb/Fer/ Por. Nobles, Rads, Cats are far more fun to drive and aforable. In certain countries they are all road legal.

Imagine a $70k car that can pull 2+ g's and do 60 in 3.2 seconds. Or the latest Cat that can break 3 seconds.


Forget Ferrari, give me a Noble, Lose Lambo, Give me a Caterham (Hayabusa V8) (Yes the motorcycle motor mated to another Hayabusa) .

All this BS about HP. Gimme torque and a vehicle that weighs what it should 1500 lbs.

BigMass
02-25-2005, 07:55 AM
The McLaren F1 is the fastest production car of all time. Period. The Veryon has not been tested and the Koenigsegg CCR top speed is just bench racing since that has not been tested either. Claimed top speeds are worthless. Volkswagen can say their new Beatle will hit 300mpg but until it is proven in the real world its worthless just like Buggati and Koenigsegg's claims.

The new Porsche 911 that supposedly broke the McLaren record is BS considering there could be more than a 1mph error in measurement and the thing isn't even a production car. Comparing tuned cars to production stock cars is totally worthless whether we're talking supercars or $30,000 imports.

BerserkerCatSplat
02-25-2005, 02:52 PM
1988 Callaway Sledgehammer Corvette

Top speed: 254.76 MPH

Yes, faster than the McLaren, and it's from 1988.

http://www.supercars.net/cars/1988@$Callaway@$Sledgehammer%20Corvettex.html

ZorroAMG
02-25-2005, 08:02 PM
Welcome to the land of 2 yr old threads. The fastest car is the Ford festiva.

bent turbo
02-25-2005, 11:15 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BigMass
[B]The McLaren F1 is the fastest production car of all time. Period. The Veryon has not been tested and the Koenigsegg CCR top speed is just bench racing since that has not been tested either. Claimed top speeds are worthless. Volkswagen can say their new Beatle will hit 300mpg but until it is proven in the real world its worthless just like Buggati and Koenigsegg's claims.

Me thinks the lady doth protest too much. Untie the knot in your knickers, Skippy. 'Of ALL TIME' Get a grip.

WTF are you talking about. NOT tested. Get your head out of the R&T and C&D auto-pablum. Something hasn't happened until an American writes about it. They've both been tested, but not in the sacred American mags,

McLaren HAD the fastest production, but it's been surpased.

Case in point, my car WAS (past tense, Skippy) the fastest production sedan in the world, 15 years ago. I know it's nothing these days, that's life. The Bent had it's day, now cars a governed to that same speed.

The McLaren is and will always be a cool car. In 50 years it will be the 300 SL Gullwing of it's generation. But it's time, any car's time at the top is very short lived

BigMass
02-26-2005, 12:52 AM
Show me one article from any country that has tested the CCR top speed and the Veryon. I'm not arguing, i'm just stating facts. If i see CAR, Evo or Top Gear mag test the CCR and it hits 250mph on a real track then good for it. I have no read about this yet though. Also, i dont know how anyone can talk about the Veryon when its not in production yet. Nobody has one to test.

PS I dont read R&T or C&D. I read, Evo, Car and Top Gear. None of which has yet to substantiate any production car as being faster than the Mclaren.

So when you say the McLaren has been surpased... By what? Show me a source that tested another production car that is faster. I really am curious since i love supercars.

bent turbo
02-26-2005, 08:05 AM
Sorry about the R&D, C&D shots that was low, I admit it. Nice reads on your part

It wasn't an english text magazine. I think it was Italian or Spanish. Just stading in the mag section of World's biggest bookstore (well it is large). I'm trying to google in italian sites. No I'm not a wop, I just understand italian. I'll never understand Italians.

Anyway the Bugatti is effectively in production, as much as the McLaren ever was. At a million euros (god knows how much $CDN) they don't build many a year. I'd be suprised at any more than 15 units per year.

Think back to Ferrari's NDA's to F50, Enzo owners. Owner's were explicitly told not to disclose info, or lend out the cars. If I spent that much I'd be reluctant to hand over my car. I'll PM when I find the article.

4wheeldrift
02-26-2005, 10:12 AM
The koenigsegg has been awarded the most powerful production car in the world by Guiness, the certification documentation is available on both Guiness' website and Koenigseggs. Now that being said, the top speed claims of Koenigsegg have not been officially verified in any official capacity by Guiness so the McLaren still holds the title for fastest production car @ 242mph. For whatever reason none of the manufacturers have stepped up to try and beat that record, despite many of the claims that they had produced quicker cars.