Do You Baby it or Bag it?

[legendboy]

Just wondering how you guys drive your cars on a day to day basis. I know I bag on mine for sure. I'm always floating somewhere around redline when I drive.

[Ben]

Bag

[gpomp]

I usually shift around 3000 rpm.... (like 99.98% of the time)

[2000impreza]

i Baby it. haha. i don't even hit redline once every few weeks...

[mwmhong]

Baby it.
If not, it would have fallen to pieces already.

[88 CRX]

Baby mine, 2500-3000 on average.

[pHaCeLeSs]

usually keep mine between 2800-4000 rpms just so i have enough power to accelerate and weave around... the occasional time ill push it to redline if i am pissed off or osmething heh

[GTS Jeff]

depends on the mood. sometimes ill drive like a granny and sometimes ill go all out be bouncing off the rev limiter liek crazy. i think i push past redline about 3-4 times per drive

[eur0]

regular driving=regular shift,

when im pissed off or my adrenaline is pumping im hitting redline

[LUDELVR]

shit, what a useless thread! I thought we were talking about sex!!!! ;)

hahahahhaha :rofl: :rofl:

[CRXguy]

half and half! :rofl:

[RickDaTuner]

BAG!!

[Dr. Evil]

I babay my get-to-work car because, well I need to get to work every day!

I bag my racer ONLY when racing. Why burn out the engine before its time:dunno:

[szw]

normally I shift below around 2800 rpm.

But i usually keep it up around 5k before i'm about to merge or pass or something. Or osmetimes just to satisfy the urge!

[kevie88]

rev-limiter y0!! But I really take care of it.. Valve adjusts / oil changes ect get done before they're due.

[James]

Originally posted by tbk49
regular driving=regular shift,

when im pissed off or my adrenaline is pumping im hitting redline


:werd:...i would like to say i baby it all the Time, but that would be just plain lieing!...but i have a very high revving engine, so its not really THAT bad to take it to 6000 quite often:angel:


Originally posted by LUDELVR
shit, what a useless thread! I thought we were talking about sex!!!! ;)

hahahahhaha :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: ....always with your mind in the gutter!

[silverEL]

it all depends on my mood

[buh_buh]

if its nice out, I'll take it to redline probably about 75% of the time I'm driving, haha.
Actually that's just lately since we haven't seen much nice weather and I've been itching to hit VTEC.

[Glowrider]

I'm pretty easy on my car around the city. But when I get on the freeway and there's light traffic, I let it loose and have fun :)

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by buh_buh
if its nice out, I'll take it to redline probably about 75% of the time I'm driving, haha.
Actually that's just lately since we haven't seen much nice weather and I've been itching to hit VTEC. heh, the snow encourages me to rev it up higher around corners :D

[HRD2PLZ]

Originally posted by silverEL
it all depends on my mood




:werd: But on the other hand, I'm trying to keep it in trade-in condition :D

[G]

I bag the shit out of mine. My car is 7 months old and the service guy told me the brakes are down to 30%. He asked me if I have leant the car to anyone who might have bagged it. I said nope I am the only one responsible for bagging it.hahahaha

[2000impreza]

i think i only hit redline in 1st and 2nd gear once in the past month. that was when i was racing a wrx. haha. 99% of the time i'm below 2900 rpm.

[CanadaCivicSIR]

Bag it!

Well most times!!!!!

But I hit redline at least once a day!!!!

[van]

My rpm's don't go under 7,000 lol

[CLiVE]

Generally I baby it. I have the annoying Red shift light set at 4,000 for daily driving. I'm forced to baby the car most of the time b/c my fiancee is with me....:rofl:

I still get on the gas once in a while, redline it, and give it a good old "italian tune up" at least once a week....:thumbsup:

Plus if I'm going past a bus stop, I'll bag it. Just to give a nice BOV salute to everyone waiting...

[2000impreza]

Originally posted by memystealthandi

Plus if I'm going past a bus stop, I'll bag it. Just to give a nice BOV salute to everyone waiting...

you too? haha. thats the only thing a bov is good for :rofl:

[CLiVE]

Originally posted by 2000impreza


you too? haha. thats the only thing a bov is good for :rofl:

Try the "drive thru window" BOV salute...
sometimes difficult.

[civic_stylez]

i baby it the worst, i hardly ever drive it either, 2000 civic with 33000 kms. low and slow fa sho.

[THREE40SEVEN]

I do both:nut:

[cocoabrova]

Originally posted by THREE40SEVEN
I do both:nut:
:werd:

[Fuji]

I absolutely bag the crap out of mine constantly, but I do take care of it and do all maintenacne before hand. I also change oil every 3000km with full synthetic Mobil.

...I am not as bad or crazy as Rage and Kenny. esp when they get together on a road.

[Ekliptix]

Bag if the road's open(50ft w/ no cars)

[Superesc]

baby it :D

[HRD2PLZ]

Originally posted by civic_stylez
2000 civic with 33000 kms

:eek: When I had my EL I bought it with 14kms on it and sold it 10 months later with almost 38,000kms :rofl:

And my EL, was completely bagged on! by everyone who drove it :rofl:

[three.eighteen.]

bag when i have the room, and hell my car redlines around 7k so even normal driving im usually shifting at 3-4.5k

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by defekt1
My rpm's don't go under 7,000 lol crx redlines at 6500.

[4wheeldrift]

Bag it, baby :D Only for use though, for maintenance and everythign else the car gets babied.

[redline_13000]

bag it 24/7, my friends sometimes say "watch your rear view mirror incase ur transmission falls out"

[B18C]

I baby my car like it's going to make it last forever.

[4wheeldrift]

Originally posted by B18C
I baby my car like it's going to make it last forever. The way you drive, it probably will :devil: :angel:

[RiceCake]

Pending on my mood I usually baby and not drive too hard. When I get pissed of tho, the car usually gets a beating...

[speedracer]

Originally posted by 4wheeldrift
Bag it, baby :D Only for use though, for maintenance and everythign else the car gets babied.

Only maintenace is where it hurts :D Plus the many "battle" scars from the track ;)

[4wheeldrift]

Originally posted by speedracer

Plus the many "battle" scars from the track ;) Yeah, but all the road rash gives the car character :angel:

[boi-alien]

normal driving i keep it under 3k, just cause.. well gas ain't getting any cheaper, but i do hit redline at least once a day just cause i love the feel of vtec! :p

[kenny]

Bag on it. If I didnt want a car to bag on, I would have either taken the bus or leased a geo metro.

[Dirty_SOHC]

I never bag on my baby...

[Mikko]

With 370,000km on it, I'm not taking any risks! Shift at 4500 at the highest, and that's only when racing around in the country side.

I wouldn't bag my car driving normally, it isn't fun enough and it has gasoline slurping tendencies (costs 1.70 CND here or so per liter. 95.). I save that for racing. You gotta use the right tool for the right job!

[boi-alien]

Originally posted by Mikko
With 370,000km on it, I'm not taking any risks! Shift at 4500 at the highest, and that's only when racing around in the country side.

I wouldn't bag my car driving normally, it isn't fun enough and it has gasoline slurping tendencies (costs 1.70 CND here or so per liter. 95.). I save that for racing. You gotta use the right tool for the right job!
you get 95 octane over there?!? sweet!!

[Mikko]

From looking at a big gas station chain here they sell 95, 96 and 98 so that's the mainstream ones. 95 being the worst quality you can buy. I believe the engines are tuned for the higher quality gasoline versus other places (like USA), too. The new WRX for Europe is tuned to drink 98 or so I hear.

Then there's diesel, ethanol and some other more uncommon ones.

[boi-alien]

omg... our highest grade here.. regular pump gas that is, not racing gas... is only 92

[girlRACER]

Originally posted by Fuji

...I am not as bad or crazy as Rage and Kenny. esp when they get together on a road.

At first I babied it until I met Rage2 and Kenny....now I bag it!

[Ben]

Originally posted by girlRACER


At first I babied it until I met Rage2 and Kenny....now I bag it!


I've seen the way you drive, you have a heavy foot!

[4wheeldrift]

Originally posted by crxboi
omg... our highest grade here.. regular pump gas that is, not racing gas... is only 92 Thats 98 RON, about 94 octane here.

[Superesc]

Originally posted by Dirty_SOHC
I never bag on my baby...


how do you explain the many "motor swap" ????????? :D

[THREE40SEVEN]

Originally posted by Fuji
I absolutely bag the crap out of mine constantly, but I do take care of it and do all maintenacne before hand. I also change oil every 3000km with full synthetic Mobil.

...I am not as bad or crazy as Rage and Kenny. esp when they get together on a road.
Dont let the oil give you a false sense of security;) I like to think that way as well.... Though im sure it really doesent do much at all.
BTW, mobil 1 is not a full synthetic. Look at amsoil, royal purple and redline for a "true" synthetic. The formula was changed after mobil 1 lost a lawsuit to castrol, claiming castrols wasn't a full synthetic(which it wasn't). Mobil changed their formula to match the lower cost of the castrol.

[silvercivicsir]

it's been babied from day one.. Never Bagged on,... And ive never hit vtec in the car.. Maybe some time this year the hammer will go down and we'll see what she can do..


I think my car is Mad at me for NOt using Vtec.....

[CRXguy]

Originally posted by silvercivicsir
it's been babied from day one.. Never Bagged on,... And ive never hit vtec in the car.. Maybe some time this year the hammer will go down and we'll see what she can do..


I think my car is Mad at me for NOt using Vtec.....

Still?!?!?!??!??!?!?!?!??!:eek: :rofl:

[Glowrider]

it's been babied from day one.. Never Bagged on,... And ive never hit vtec in the car.. Maybe some time this year the hammer will go down and we'll see what she can do..

Ok...why?

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by Superesc



how do you explain the many "motor swap" ????????? :D

how many swaps done so far? :rofl:

Originally posted by silvercivicsir
it's been babied from day one.. Never Bagged on,... And ive never hit vtec in the car.. Maybe some time this year the hammer will go down and we'll see what she can do..


I think my car is Mad at me for NOt using Vtec.....


why waste the money on an sir?

[Glowrider]

why waste the money on an sir?

Exactly what I thought.

[B17a]

Originally posted by silvercivicsir
it's been babied from day one.. Never Bagged on,... And ive never hit vtec in the car.. Maybe some time this year the hammer will go down and we'll see what she can do..


I think my car is Mad at me for NOt using Vtec.....

It's not that mythical, go ahead and mash it in!:thumbsup:

[Glowrider]

LOL. It'd be fucked up if the first time he ragged on the car he blew the engine. Hahaha.

[max_boost]

Originally posted by Glowrider
LOL. It'd be fucked up if the first time he ragged on the car he blew the engine. Hahaha. :werd: :rofl:

Ok I totally understand about babying your car and not rev it too hard but to not ever rev it at all is a different story! Why didn't you just buy a Civic DX? :dunno:

From what I know, Hondas are suppose to be bagged on, and since you have the SiR isn't your redline at 8K? The ride must feel sluggish if you have NEVER hit VTEC!:rofl:

[max_boost]

I remember on my Prelude, I bagged the shit out of that car everyday! I VTEC it like all the time! And hence I killed that car, it just didn't feel right to not push it! haha

[Glowrider]

Honda's can take it. I have a friend with a 94 Accord with 74,000 miles on it. He drives that thing HARD all day, every day. He gets alot of speeding tickets. But the car has never had any problems. Can't beat Honda or Toyota reliability. Go for it and stomp on the gas!

[silvercivicsir]

the reason why I didn't buy a DX / si was cuz the Sir for only 5 grand more then the Si...

had an extra 40 Hp, extra Cam, same size engine. Alloy wheels, 4 wheel disk brakes front chin spoiler, Painted side skirts and body modelings. Sir mesh front grill, Better Interior, Red faced/ lighting in the car. diferent seats [which I took out anyways].. front strut bar, leather wrapped shifter/steering wheel.
dude you can't buy all that stuff for 4 grand.

Call me what you want, and do what you want to your car, but After dropping MY HARD EARNED MONEY / which took me forever to save up. the last thing I want to do is abuse and wreck my Car.. {{ maybe since mommy and daddy bought your cars you don't give a crap about them, which is fine.. but I want my car to last}}.. and

for not bagging it, It's Just like driving a Si.. there not need to bad my car I just drive normally and DUDE no speeding tickets no tickets for Gay ass Lights, Blah Blah Blah..

[Glowrider]

had an extra 40 Hp, extra Cam, same size engine. Alloy wheels, 4 wheel disk brakes front chin spoiler, Painted side skirts and body modelings. Sir mesh front grill, Better Interior, Red faced/ lighting in the car. diferent seats [which I took out anyways].. front strut bar, leather wrapped shifter/steering wheel.

Yeah, but alot of that stuff is designed to help you go faster while maintaining control of the car. If you don't use the car for what it was intended to do, then you're just wasting the money you worked so hard for.

[speedracer]

Originally posted by THREE40SEVEN

The formula was changed after mobil 1 lost a lawsuit to castrol, claiming castrols wasn't a full synthetic(which it wasn't). Mobil changed their formula to match the lower cost of the castrol.

Hmmm from what I've read Mobil 1 adhered to the definition of Synthetic whereas everyone else made up their rules. x% synth + y% refined. Since the definition of synth is rather gray.

Then again mobile 1 is factor filled for me :D


Originally posted by silvercivicsir
I think my car is Mad at me for NOt using Vtec.....
Mad... no just wanting to screaaaaaaaaam!

[max_boost]

Don't even start with my parents buying me my car crap.....

You are buying a car for all its intended purposes and for whatever reason, I bet you even Honda engineers are wondering why you have never hit 5K in your car.....not to knock on you but you must be granny driving, never trying to merge aggressively or anything.....I don't bag on my car, I don't push it hard, but occasionally it will go over 5000rpms....lol

[silvercivicsir]

True.. but you guys asked why I didn't buy a dx or si and those are my reasons.. it's a lot more car for only 4 grand more..

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by silvercivicsir
True.. but you guys asked why I didn't buy a dx or si and those are my reasons.. it's a lot more car for only 4 grand more.. it is a good deal, but since u dont take advantage of all those extras...why not put the 4 grand into something that u will actually benefit from...such as investing it?

in fact, im willing to bet that a d16 has more low-end torque than the b16, therefore making it more suited for your type of driving.

i bought my car with my own supposedly hard earned money too. boo hoo, its nothing to brag about. my thinking is, ive spent money on it, and im gona make damn well sure that i get my moneys worth from the car! i paid for tvis and im gona damn well hit tvis every chance i get!

[speedracer]

Not many people buy a car because of function. Take for example the SUV drivers out there - how many actually will drive it offroad?

[tegdream]

haa i beat the shit outta my car.....too bad its auto tho....meh neutral drops are always good :rolleyes:

[Mikko]

Yup, speedracer is absolutely correct.

Here is an article about it, sort of.. http://w1.858.telia.com/~u85823763/consumerism/consumerism.htm

You can divide people into three levels of consumerism. Level 2 is buying stuff you don't need, but at least can and will make good use of. Level 3 (full consumerism) is buying things you don't need and won't make use of.

[SilverRex]

baby when alone.. other wise if I see some idiot tailgate me I make sure I bag em all the way to Mars

[SilverStreak]

I take it easy on her most of the time but not afraid to show her some 9000rpm lovin' :D

[boi-alien]

Originally posted by silvercivicsir
{{ maybe since mommy and daddy bought your cars you don't give a crap about them, which is fine.. but I want my car to last}}

was this neccessary?!

if i had a brand new car i'd bag on it for sure, that way if anything goes wrong at least it'll be during the warranty.

[ninjak84]

Originally posted by crxboi
was this neccessary?!


I can't remember the last time I logged onto any one of my regular forums to find someone NOT bitching about wealthy people. Learn to love what you have, and get used to the fact that even if you buy a Ferrari, someone will have a gold plated one to beat you with.

[Mikko]

I believe silvercivicsir was suggesting that perhaps if max_boost was handed his car(s) he would take them for granted and not care if they broke down, and not racking down on spoiled kids per se. Though no doubt max_boost is highly aware of the value of a dollar... considering all the posts he makes about it, M3, save money, bla bla :thumbsup:

[Matrix1]

bag all the time:angel:

[Rotorite]

usually shift 3000-3500, redline runs whenever weather permits ^_^

[dogstar]

bag the truck, will baby the car till i know it runs reliably, then ill bash it too. :D

[Matrix1]

The only time I baby it is on a cold engine, around cops, speed camera's etc.

[ecstasy_civic]

bag on an average but when im in a relaxed mood after work i usually take it easy unless i get road rage:guns:

[calarina]

I usually bag it. Hahaha, I try to use all the power I can out of my car. But when it's cold outside, or low on gas, or it's been acting up, I baby it. Well, it is my baby, but she loves to drive fast. :D

[frostyda9]

I baby it maintenence-wise, but I drive the hell out of it. What's the point of spending money to mod your car if you don't take advantage of it?

[Mikko]

Originally posted by frostyda9
I baby it maintenence-wise, but I drive the hell out of it. What's the point of spending money to mod your car if you don't take advantage of it?

Status symbol. Having a 'nice' car is paramount to it being an effective status symbol. It's basically a social tool. Or perhaps the product of consumerist irrational desires (the desire for things that are not even put to use).

[THREE40SEVEN]

Originally posted by Mikko


Status symbol. Having a 'nice' car is paramount to it being an effective status symbol. It's basically a social tool. Or perhaps the product of consumerist irrational desires (the desire for things that are not even put to use).
yeah to that 55 year old who wouldn't race me in his new vette :poosie: Wonder if he knew he had a fast car:dunno: I threw a fucking grey poupon at him.
I race to the speed limit anyways..... maybe a little beyond.

[frostyda9]

Originally posted by Mikko


Status symbol. Having a 'nice' car is paramount to it being an effective status symbol. It's basically a social tool. Or perhaps the product of consumerist irrational desires (the desire for things that are not even put to use).

I agree, and a lot of people do buy expensive fast cars solely for this reason. However, modding your car to get MORE speed, handling, etc. out of it seems pointless if those are your intentions. The people that I view as being in this catergory would usually buy a beautiful, expensive status symbol....but leave it nearly stock. At the same time though, I guarantee that there are BMW, Lexus, Benz etc. owners that love the thrill of WOT through a desolate backroad as much as anyone. The former category of people I would describe as "subscribers", and the latter I would label "enthusiasts". Just my two cents, but I don't think I am styaying too far from generally accepted notions here.

[audio1der]

I drive the ever-loving piss out of my car daily, but follow a rigorous maintenance schedule, full of check-ups, synthetic fluids (good stff, no Wal-Mart products here) and part changes before they become neccessary.

[Mikko]

Originally posted by frostyda9


a lot of people do buy expensive fast cars solely for this reason. However, modding your car to get MORE speed, handling, etc. out of it seems pointless if those are your intentions. The people that I view as being in this catergory would usually buy a beautiful, expensive status symbol....but leave it nearly stock.

There are many subcultures where different cars are valued differently. For instance, if you are in the low-rider culture you can buy a cheap truck, put in huge huge speakers and subs, then lower like mad, big rims, tint windows, and you got a good status symbol. Cheap, too.

Expensive cars tend to remain status symbols in all groups simply because they cost so much and that alone makes them good for image. If ones buddies are in the 'import scene' and you can't buy a new BMW 330ci, the alternative is getting some old integra, civic or 240 and foremost changing the looks, then working on the performance aspects seems quite attractive... even though one doesn't intend to ever do anything but drive recklessly in traffic! :banghead:

As the performance aspect isn't really that important to import scene posers, the mods will be prioritized with cosmetical/show value being ranked highest, usually. Rims, lowering springs (can be argued to be a performance adding mod, but I'd say it usually messes up the factory tuning), logos, bumpers, front spoilers.

[frostyda9]

Originally posted by Mikko


There are many subcultures where different cars are valued differently. For instance, if you are in the low-rider culture you can buy a cheap truck, put in huge huge speakers and subs, then lower like mad, big rims, tint windows, and you got a good status symbol. Cheap, too.



Again, I don't really disagree with anything you said, except for the fact that I don't think anyone would consider a lowrider truck a true "status symbol". Though it might be held in high regard in that particuar circle, I still don't think it qualifies as a status symbol. Of course the real problem is: "status symbol" is a subjective term and there can be no definitive answer to whether or not something qualifies as one if there are no clearly defined criteria for evaluating it.

[Mikko]

Social tool? Oh you know, people want to impress their friends and aquintances.

Yep it's true that not everyone are into it for that. But also, I think it's a very large grey zone. Some are all for social, others are only a little for social.

[Glowrider]

Well...I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy the fact that I drive a BMW.

[Mikko]

:eek: You..you..tool! :angel:

[girlRACER]

Originally posted by Mikko
Yup, speedracer is absolutely correct.

Here is an article about it, sort of.. http://w1.858.telia.com/~u85823763/consumerism/consumerism.htm

You can divide people into three levels of consumerism. Level 2 is buying stuff you don't need, but at least can and will make good use of. Level 3 (full consumerism) is buying things you don't need and won't make use of.

That article has some truth to it but I felt that it was very poorly written :thumbsdow. He makes a bold statement but doesn't have the research or evidence to support it. He tries to write from a psycho-analytical perspective but he hasn't removed his own bias and prejudices. All in all that is not a very convincing article.

[Mikko]

Ahaha, thanks Jackie. I wrote it :poosie: I don't take any offense though, I don't regard them very highly, and I deliberately leave in my bias and convictions in them. People can think what they want of it.

[girlRACER]

Originally posted by Mikko
Ahaha, thanks Jackie. I wrote it :poosie: I don't take any offense though, I don't regard them very highly, and I deliberately leave in my bias and convictions in them. People can think what they want of it.

:rofl: haha...well then that changes everything!! I thought it was some psychologist or something....or should I call you Dr. Mikko :)

[THREE40SEVEN]

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