View Full Version : What would you rather buy? Dodge Avenger or Mustang GT?
canadian_hustla
08-24-2005, 02:07 PM
models: 1994 - 1997
I am in the market for a newer car, and have come down to these two vehicles. I know that avengers are poor when it comes to performance as well as that 80% of them are automatics. They are also the predesessor of the eagle talon, and engines are made by mitsubishi (is this a problem in regards to reliability?) Can anyone else offer any opinions about this model of car?
A mustang GT would also be nice, however they are much more common. Obviously much faster, and easier/cheaper to fix. Anyone know the base HP for a mustang GT model 1994~1997?
I am completely torn about which one i want. Avengers look pimp when they are all done up, however mustangs are significantly faster.
Which one would you pick? Your advice/experiences are appreciated.
finboy
08-24-2005, 02:13 PM
mustang hands down
Weapon_R
08-24-2005, 02:14 PM
Mustang.
benyl
08-24-2005, 02:22 PM
Mustang.
Why would you want a car that was discontinued?
69cougar
08-24-2005, 02:24 PM
Seems to me you have already pointed out why the Mustang is 10x better!!
:confused:
crazydave
08-24-2005, 02:28 PM
mustang
Mr. Burns
08-24-2005, 02:33 PM
Mustang.
likwid
08-24-2005, 02:34 PM
You cant even compare the two. Mustang all the way.
BokCh0y
08-24-2005, 02:35 PM
MUSTANG all the way.
CryoCarnage
08-24-2005, 02:47 PM
Mustang. Unlesss you really want FWD...
mr.13secprobe
08-24-2005, 02:50 PM
Mustang
habsfan
08-24-2005, 02:51 PM
i dont think you're gonna find anyone who thinks you should take an avanger over a mustang gt
mustang for sure
I gotta admit I've always been fond of the Avenger R/T styling, the powertrains are so anemic it's not even funny.
Buy the damn Mustang.
1994-1995 Mustang's still had the 302.
1996-1997 Mustang's got the SOHC 4.6.
Neither are going to be terribly fast, but the 96-97 will be slower most likely.
What kind of $ are you willing to spend? If you can get a 96-97 Cobra, do so. DOHC V-8 and 300 HP. :thumbsup:
Mad$ella
08-24-2005, 03:06 PM
Mustang
...and make sure you get a '94 or '95 because they still have the classic 5.0L engine.
1994 & 1995
Engine code E:
215hp 284trq
Engine code D:
240hp 285trq
In another light there are sooo many performance parts for the Mustang, you could spend all the money you have on HP and still not have near everything.
If you need more info, shoot me a PM.
Hope I helped.
HillBilly
08-24-2005, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by benyl
Mustang.
Why would you want a car that was discontinued?
what like a RX7, Supra, 3000GT....
yeah who wants that....
tapout
08-24-2005, 04:22 PM
pony :hitit: :burnout:
Chandler_Racing
08-24-2005, 04:34 PM
Mustang.
NickGT
08-24-2005, 05:53 PM
Mustang :angel: :burnout:
Are you in the market for a new car Hustla or is this for someone else? I thought you had some plans for your BMW?
Mad$ella
08-24-2005, 06:01 PM
Mustang: 16
Dodge: 0
Z24_3.1.
08-24-2005, 06:03 PM
mustang Gt 95 last year of the 5.0 L
Avenger. Save some gas and get the 4 cyl 420a. Boost it and you will be happy. As far as reliability goes, a Mustang won't be any better than the Avenger.
EK 2.0
08-24-2005, 06:05 PM
Avenger...
had to play Devil's Advocate...and can anyone say...4G63 swap...w00t w00t...haha
finboy
08-24-2005, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by EK 2.0
Avenger...
had to play Devil's Advocate...and can anyone say...4G63 swap...w00t w00t...haha
meh, get the 420 model and swap in the srt 2.4L ;)
BerserkerCatSplat
08-24-2005, 06:40 PM
Pffft, if you want to talk swaps, get the Mustang and swap in a 427! :D
Mustang all the way.
Mad$ella
08-24-2005, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by BerserkerCatSpl
Pffft, if you want to talk swaps, get the Mustang and swap in a 427! :D
Mustang all the way.
:werd:
403Gemini
08-24-2005, 06:56 PM
a done up avenger would be unique, but with uniqueness comes bloody expensive parts.
id go mustang. cheaper parts, more common, easier to fix, etc.
in the end the mustang will go faster for MUCH less $$$
asp integra
08-24-2005, 07:38 PM
mustang, so much more aftermarket stuff for them, plus power is super easy to make
Team_Mclaren
08-24-2005, 08:01 PM
buy a honda...!!!
j/k
I like how the Avenger looks, but the mustang has the power to back it up. Go get a stang
Moe Man
08-24-2005, 10:21 PM
5.0L :thumbsup:
fast95pony
08-24-2005, 10:26 PM
Ummmmm....
canadian_hustla
08-25-2005, 01:15 AM
I highly appreciate all the opinions. At first I was set on getting an avenger (somewhat rare, unique and looks pretty good), however this thread has made me think twice. Now i am on the lookout for an older model 5.0L stang. I think the biggest problem with an avenger is that you can only get 5spd on the 4 cylinder model. A stang would be nice, i mean come on who doesn't drive fast? :burnout:
Are you in the market for a new car Hustla or is this for someone else? I thought you had some plans for your BMW?
definately in the market for a newer car, time to upgrade :)
Get an Avenger, and I will help you turbocharge it :D
They have the same motor as my car, the 420A Chrysler (the 2nd generation non-turbo Eclipses and Talons had them)... it has a cylinder head developed by Lotus, or so the word is anyway, I can't really confirm that. People have gotten really good numbers out of our engine. There is a lot of support for these cars (not in the same way as a Civic or 4G63 DSM, but a lot of do-it-yourselfers who are extremely knowledgeable). Look at asog.net or 2gnt.com ...we can get bolt-on turbo kits that will get you 400whp :)
plus you can pay a few thousand bucks to get the 4G63 and all wheel drive drivetrain out of a DSM swapped into your avenger, and then you don't have to put up with the guys who drive mustangs, like Madsella, since to be a cool domestic guy you apparently need to be over the age of 30.
403Gemini
08-25-2005, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by canadian_hustla
I highly appreciate all the opinions. At first I was set on getting an avenger (somewhat rare, unique and looks pretty good), however this thread has made me think twice. Now i am on the lookout for an older model 5.0L stang. I think the biggest problem with an avenger is that you can only get 5spd on the 4 cylinder model. A stang would be nice, i mean come on who doesn't drive fast? :burnout:
definately in the market for a newer car, time to upgrade :)
i noticed the 4 cyl's have more aftermarket than the v6's though. i havent seen a turbo kit for a v6 version of the avenger... but then again i never looked THAT hard ;)
lastprodigy
08-25-2005, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by Stealth R/T
what like a RX7, Supra, 3000GT....
yeah who wants that....
totally agree here.....granted the avenger is not a great car but its not like all cars that are discontinued arent worth buying...what an ignorant comment
mustang +1
Mad$ella
08-25-2005, 03:11 PM
:thumbsup: for the 'Stang
:thumbsdow for the Avenger
buy neither :) they're both "done before" and boring cars
heavyD
08-26-2005, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by b_t
plus you can pay a few thousand bucks to get the 4G63 and all wheel drive drivetrain out of a DSM swapped into your avenger, and then you don't have to put up with the guys who drive mustangs, like Madsella, since to be a cool domestic guy you apparently need to be over the age of 30.
Ha Ha. I've seen Madsella driving around. Drives that car like an old lady. Slowing down to 5 km/hr for every little bump & manhole in the road. Why have your car slammed like that if it means driving like a senior citizen?
Originally posted by heavyD
Ha Ha. I've seen Madsella driving around. Drives that car like an old lady. Slowing down to 5 km/hr for every little bump & manhole in the road. Why have your car slammed like that if it means driving like a senior citizen?
No kidding!
plus, I always thought the point of having airbags was so that you could raise it up again so you can drive it around normally.
Mad$ella
08-26-2005, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by heavyD
Ha Ha. I've seen Madsella driving around. Drives that car like an old lady. Slowing down to 5 km/hr for every little bump & manhole in the road. Why have your car slammed like that if it means driving like a senior citizen?
Originally posted by b_t
No kidding!
plus, I always thought the point of having airbags was so that you could raise it up again so you can drive it around normally.
I drive slow for other reasons. Its not the air bags, its the 20s and the 35 series rubber, no point denting the rims. Secondly, I am on a short leash with Alberta Traffic Saftey Board. One ticket and I get my license taken away. There is nothing wrong with driving slow... and avoiding the potholes. I can raise it up but that doesnt change the fact that I want to keep my 20s in good shape.
Get over it, my car is awsome!
DC2uned
08-26-2005, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Mad$ella
I drive slow for other reasons. Its not the air bags, its the 20s and the 35 series rubber, no point denting the rims. Secondly, I am on a short leash with Alberta Traffic Saftey Board. One ticket and I get my license taken away. There is nothing wrong with driving slow... and avoiding the potholes. I can raise it up but that doesnt change the fact that I want to keep my 20s in good shape.
Get over it, my car is awsome!
You have a 1991 Rustang with Altezzas!!!
Your car couldn't be further away from awesome.
I appreciate the work and effort you put into your car, but you act like a clown.
Originally posted by Mad$ella
Get over it, my car is awsome!
Get over yourself first.
Then we're making progress.
habsfan
08-26-2005, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by Mad$ella
Get over it, my car is awsome!
the one and only thing i like about your car is the color, it looks good. everything else looks like chincy rice. especially 20 inch rims on a fox body
lastprodigy
08-26-2005, 02:20 PM
agreed, the car would be nicer if you didnt act like it was a ferrari.......maybe lose the altezzas and the pipes sticking out of the bumper :rolleyes: ...oh ibtl prolly!
EK 2.0
08-26-2005, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by habsfan
the one and only thing i like about your car is the color, it looks good. everything else looks like chincy rice. especially 20 inch rims on a fox body
Originally posted by lastprodigy
agreed, the car would be nicer if you didnt act like it was a ferrari.......maybe lose the altezzas and the pipes sticking out of the bumper :rolleyes: ...oh ibtl prolly!
ok guys we are getting off topic hurr...
heavyD
08-26-2005, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Mad$ella
Get over it, my car is awsome!
We all know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it looks like alot of work went into it so I'm not going to say it's an ugly POS or anything even though I don't like Mustangs. IMO it is a riced out domestic and if you can't drive it on city roads without grannying it what's the point. You could have saved yourself thousands of dollars and bought yourself a better looking car like a Sunfire or Focus and drive like a man not a woman.:poosie:
403Gemini
08-27-2005, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by heavyD
We all know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it looks like alot of work went into it so I'm not going to say it's an ugly POS or anything even though I don't like Mustangs. IMO it is a riced out domestic and if you can't drive it on city roads without grannying it what's the point. You could have saved yourself thousands of dollars and bought yourself a better looking car like a Sunfire or Focus and drive like a man not a woman.:poosie:
really? u think a sunfire is better looking than a mustang?!
i like those style mustangs, quite a bit actually, and i think madsella's is crazy nice :) but im open to almost anything.
... i even think sunfires look good too *hides from flaming* :)
heavyD
08-27-2005, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by 403Gemini
really? u think a sunfire is better looking than a mustang?!
It's a matter of which car is higher on the ugly scale.;)
Mightaswell
08-27-2005, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by heavyD
It's a matter of which car is higher on the ugly scale.;)
" If you were in a stupid and ugly contest...you'd win...or lose. Whatever's funnier."
cressida_pimpin
08-27-2005, 01:27 PM
mustang: the cheapest fast car around.
Mightaswell
08-27-2005, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by cressida_pimpin
mustang: the cheapest fast car around.
300zx turbo z31 is totally a better ghetto racecar. Pick one up for less than 2000, intake, exhaust, boost controller. 13.6 sec 1/4.
BerserkerCatSplat
08-27-2005, 01:59 PM
^How reliable are the old Z's?
Mightaswell
08-27-2005, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by BerserkerCatSpl
^How reliable are the old Z's?
The VG30 block is as solid as they get. There's just the usual issues that come with any turbo car. Just make sure it doesn't blow smoke or make wierd noises when you buy and you should be good to go. T3 is a pretty cheap turbo anyways. The earlier ones use the same T-5 tranny as the 5.0 Mustangs, so cheap to rebuild.
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