Any HDTV movie collectors?

[rage2]

Curious if anyone collects HDTV movies off satellite/digital cable. MPEG2-PS or MPEG2-TS files hehe. Or am I the only one?

My HD DVD collection is catching up to my DVD collection, all this without HD-DVD vs BluRay format wars. Just play 'em off dual layer DVD+R's or straight off my media server.

[digi355]

best i get is my collection on my PVR. Movie central HD is way to easy to bother with torrent anymore.

[rage2]

Yea, PVR's can only hold so much (I only have 600gb on my pvr). I don't d/l my collection, it's all recorded to my PVR then ripped for external storage. Also have a firewire modded Bell receiver that can rip as well hehe.

[b_t]

now if someone could figure out how to mod Shaw's Motorola HD box to make getting HD movies onto DVDs easier, I would collect... my two crown jewels are Lord of the Rings: the Two Towers and Lord of the Rings: Return of the King in the true widescreen HD, not the letterboxed stuff they usually show... except my dad DELETED Return of the King. Right now the box's hard drive is full because of the 981 minutes of fuckin Live Eight or whatever it was called.

rage, you wouldn't happen to have either of them burned onto DVD, would you?

[pitwipe]

I have Shaw's Motorola HD box. How do you rip the movies/shows off it? I didn't know that was possible?

[b_t]

if you have a HDTV capture card on your PC, you could hook it up that way. otherwise, all the ports on the box for the firewire and ethernet and the removable storage on the front are disabled, so the only way I can think of to do it is the HD capture card. if someone could mod it, and make it so that it shows up on your PC network as an external hard drive that you can copy to and from like it was a shared drive, that would make it much easier, but I don't know how to do that.

edit: here is a link that says you can record through the Firewire port. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=403695
Whether or not it is enabled on our box is a mystery to me. I don't think it is.

everybody on the HD forums just bitches about the Motorola 6418 box, apparently the bugs I have encountered are not unique. nobody has gotten over the unreliability enough to start messing with it :D

[pitwipe]

Thanks for the info and link. Looks like a bit of a pain to do. I think I'll just have to delete all the crap the wife recorded to make more room for my stuff :D

[b_t]

I'm really hoping I can find someone with Return of the King HD ripped to a computer. Apparently, the broadcast on Movie Central HD I grabbed it from a couple months ago was the first and last time it was ever shown in uncropped 2.35:1 widescreen HD, and the one torrent I did find was 23 gigabytes 1080i with only 1 seed, and it might have been cropped and a shitty transfer. especially since, if it was 23 gigabytes, the guy who encoded it had no idea what he was doing.

[rage2]

Originally posted by b_t
now if someone could figure out how to mod Shaw's Motorola HD box to make getting HD movies onto DVDs easier, I would collect...
Well, I burn onto DVD in the MPEG2 format and play it using a HD MPEG2/WMV player (iodata avel linkplayer2). You can remaster it to 480p and stuff it on a DVD to play on conventional players, but you're dropping resolution from 1080 lines to 480 lines which kills the quality. I'm just curious if ppl collect MPEG2 1080i format movies.

Originally posted by pitwipe
I have Shaw's Motorola HD box. How do you rip the movies/shows off it? I didn't know that was possible?
Yep! The firewire port is enabled on most shaw boxes (when I had shaw anyways). Plug it to your PC and you can use a DVHS tool to save the MPEG2-TS stream to your hard drive. That's how you "rip" the movies. To play back, you'll need a MPEG2-TS compliant HD player like the iodata.

Originally posted by b_t
if you have a HDTV capture card on your PC, you could hook it up that way. otherwise, all the ports on the box for the firewire and ethernet and the removable storage on the front are disabled, so the only way I can think of to do it is the HD capture card. if someone could mod it, and make it so that it shows up on your PC network as an external hard drive that you can copy to and from like it was a shared drive, that would make it much easier, but I don't know how to do that.

edit: here is a link that says you can record through the Firewire port. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=403695
Whether or not it is enabled on our box is a mystery to me. I don't think it is.
Firewire ports are enabled. You can't use a HD capture card, all that does is capture Over the Air HD signals, which we don't have. There are capture cards that can convert a 1080i signal over DVI or component and encode to MPEG2 but they cost like $20k.

Originally posted by b_t
I'm really hoping I can find someone with Return of the King HD ripped to a computer. Apparently, the broadcast on Movie Central HD I grabbed it from a couple months ago was the first and last time it was ever shown in uncropped 2.35:1 widescreen HD, and the one torrent I did find was 23 gigabytes 1080i with only 1 seed, and it might have been cropped and a shitty transfer. especially since, if it was 23 gigabytes, the guy who encoded it had no idea what he was doing.
I have it on my Bell PVR but it's not possible to rip those off the HDD yet. There's a few good movies I'd like to rip off my 9200 receiver. Kill bill v1 and v2.

Other than that I got like 100 other movies heh.

[b_t]

ahh I wasn't talking about sizing them down to play in traditional DVD players... I was more thinking about burning them in HD resolutions onto a DVD, like you were talking about, that I can then play on my computer in HD, since my comp can do 5.1 and 1080i output to my TV and home theatre.
As soon as you figure out how to get Return of the King onto your computer, let me know :D Two Towers is nice, but the battle of Helm's Deep pales in comparison to the battle of Minas Tirith when it comes time to show off the true glory of a HD TV set!

but I save as many HD movies as I can. I wish the hard drive was bigger, since I've had to delete most of them to make room for that 1,000 minute concert. Right now all I have is the Two Towers, Catch Me if You Can, and SWAT (except SWAT is a terrible, terrible movie).

[rage2]

ya u guys should learn to rip and burn 'em. Here's my collection so far:

MEDIA SERVER HD
===============
8MM
A Time to Kill
Along Came Polly
Bad Boys II
Billy Madison
Can't Hardly Wait
Casino
Charlie's Angels- Full Throttle
Dave Chappelle- For What It's Worth
Days of Thunder
Detroit Rock City
Die Hard With a Vengeance
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Face Off
Fahrenheit 9-11
Fargo
Ghost Ship
Gladiator
Godsend
GoodFellas
House Arrest
Jackie Chan's Who Am I
Major League
Matchstick Men
Natural Born Killers
New Jack City
Once Upon a Time in Mexico
Out of Time
Palmetto
Pulp Fiction
Ray
Shrek 2
Something's Gotta Give
Spider-Man 2
Starship Troopers
The Firm
The Godfather, Part III
The Matrix
The Matrix Reloaded
The Matrix Revolutions
The People vs. Larry Flynt
The Perfect Score
The Punisher
The Replacement Killers
The Shawshank Redemption
Wild Things

DL-DVD HD
=========
50 First Dates
A League of Their Own
Agent Cody Banks
American Wedding
Anchorman
Better Luck Tomorrow
Bowling for Columbine
Boyz in the Hood
Bruce Almighty
Bulletproof Monk
Career Opportunity
Crimson Tide
Cruel Intentions
CSI - Grave Danger
Die Another Day
Enron - The Smartest Guys in the Room
Eurotrip
Falling Down
Fled
Identity
Intolerable Cruelty
JFK
Men in Black
Mimic
Mr Destiny
Paycheck
Runaway Jury
Smoke
Spice World
Starsky & Hutch
Striptease
Supersize Me
T3 Rise of the Machines
Taking Lives
That Thing You Do!
The Core
The Day After Tomorrow
The Devil's Own
The Girl Next Door
The Italian Job
The School of Rock
The Whole Ten Yards
Tomb Raider - The Cradle of Life
Torque


A bunch of 'em are stuck on media server cuz they're over 8.5gb heh. All I need now is to figure out how to encode 1080i WMV with AC3 without breaking a/v sync. Then I can have everything on removable storage and can stop buying more HDD space.

[b_t]

any chance I could get a copy of Boyz in the Hood and Bulletproof Monk off you? I already have Boyz on regular DVD, but an HD version would be sweet... its one of my favorite movies of all time :D
Starship Troopers in HD would be sweet too!!

have you tried encoding them using the Quicktime HD codecs?

[rage2]

I tried all codecs and they all have issues with sync. Or take 3 days to do each movie lol.

Bulletproof monk is fucking sweeeeet in HD. Very nice encoding job.

[b_t]

ahh I can't say I am much of a fan of the Quicktime HD codec, I was playing the HD trailers with Quicktime Alternative and it they all appear washed out. Shinobi, Serenity, and Batman Begins all looked pretty bland... although the resolution on the 1080p Serenity trailer was quite nice!! :D
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all 56k modems are now dead

[rage2]

Too bad that there's no affordable 1080 displays yet. Everything maxes out at 720p pretty much so more resolution doesn't really mean that much on a TV.

That changes in Sept with the Sony SXRD 1080p displays... waiting patiently now haha.

WMV-HD (VC-1) is really good for encoding. It keeps color saturation at original levels even at such low bitrates. Just need to get an encoder that can do it right!

[b_t]

I'm pretty sure Dell's 24" widescreen LCD monitor does 1080p. Those things are pricey, really pricey, though, and not so good for gaming, and not that great for TV either. I think they just made it so they could say they had a 1080p monitor.

As far as 1080p movies go, I am not sure if it will be worth it to be an early adopter of the technology. Either the industry does it right the first time and just jumps straight to 1080p (yeah right) or they go through all this format war BS and stick with 720p for a long time.

I'll probably pick up a 1080p set when Samsung comes out with one, probably after next year's CES.

I'm not so sure about encoding movies... my comp sucks for this sort of thing. If I could find a 64 bit version of XP Pro, then I might, but otherwise a 3.2 with only 512mb of RAM would take a long, lonnnng time to encode an HD movie. In any case, what encoder are you using to do all this?

[rage2]

Everything HD so far has been converted to 1080i and 1080p for home use so 720p is out of the question. Only good thing about 1080p is that it supports 24 and 30, so a display that can do 1080p/24 would avoid a 3:2 pulldown process. Because 1080/60i uses the same bandwidth as 1080/30p, there's no reason not to go in that direction.

Sony's SXRD (based on LCOS) is coming out in sept for $5k (50" model). That'll be the first of the affordable 1080 sets. Next year we'll see the DLP and plasma entries.

[pitwipe]

Um, rage2.... "Spice World" Ha haha ah hah ahaha :rofl: :rofl: Thought you could slip that one by us huh?

[rage2]

Originally posted by pitwipe
Um, rage2.... "Spice World" Ha haha ah hah ahaha :rofl: :rofl: Thought you could slip that one by us huh?
Nope. I love the spice girls haha. If you have my MSN, you'll see that in my weekly spice girl avatar lol. Or if you see me driving around, you might hear spice girls playing in my car haha. No shame!

Sooooooo I'll tell you want I want what I really really want! :rofl:

[/////AMG]

:eek: :eek: HA HA srice girls

Girl power:thumbsup:
Whose your fave spice girl?

[rage2]

Scary spice.

[pitwipe]

Mmmm, Baby Spice :drool:

Oh no, self owning.. :rofl:

[rage2]

Baby spice is pretty hot now. She was on stern a while ago and he got some sexy info outta her. :hitit:

[pitwipe]

Sexy info? Do tell...........
Oh, btw, :hijack:

[rage2]

http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_1259292.html

It was a hot interview.

[brandon]

Originally posted by rage2
Scary spice.

sporty spice pwns scary spice.

[Horaysh]

oh man rage u shud sell some of those hd dvds...lotsa kids wud buy a bunch :thumbsup: (oh and i wont tell anybody its bendin the law)

or start a massive bittorrent session...id be down :D...i wonder how much i can download b4 shaw calls my house and tells me they know what im up too

[rage2]

uhh, no. Why would I risk getting in shit making a few bucks when I have enough spending money as is?

[GoChris]

ya, I recently hooked up my shaw HD PVR via firewire, so far I have only streamed a few HD tv shows. I dont have movie central, but all this talk about HD movies I might try it out. I havent watched any movies in HD yet, mainl because I have over 700 DVD movies so everything I could record would be a dupe.

rage2, what do you use for your media server? assuming its custom built. I just moved my p4 box to behind my tv and am considering building that up, right now its not connected to the tv for output just input from shaw, but I have over 800gb in it so it might be a worthy investment to hook up the hdmi.

[sputnik]

Originally posted by GoChris
rage2, what do you use for your media server? assuming its custom built. I just moved my p4 box to behind my tv and am considering building that up, right now its not connected to the tv for output just input from shaw, but I have over 800gb in it so it might be a worthy investment to hook up the hdmi.

This badboy...

http://www.onlybestrated.com/avel-linkplayer2-high-definition-with-network-support-p-40.html

[rage2]

definately get MCHD. I have about the same # of DVD movies, and yes some of the HD ones are now dupes, but watching the movies in HD is waaaaaaay better than DVD quality. DVD quality sucks ;).

sputnik is right I use the Linkplayer2 for playback. Some of the HD movies fit on a dual layer DVD disc, the ones that don't sits on my 1.2TB server.

[GoChris]

interesting peice of hardware. I can accomplish the same video output using DVI->HDMI from the PC right?

That does seem like a good investment eventually, cause I really really don't want my PC behind my tv in the living room, my firewire cable is only 6ft though.

[dkv]

Originally posted by rage2
Curious if anyone collects HDTV movies off satellite/digital cable. MPEG2-PS or MPEG2-TS files hehe. Or am I the only one?

My HD DVD collection is catching up to my DVD collection, all this without HD-DVD vs BluRay format wars. Just play 'em off dual layer DVD+R's or straight off my media server.

rage2,

it seems that you can find much more such HDTV movies collectors in Russia than in your own country 'cause we have no official HDTV at all but people really like it and we also want to join the civilization :)

Of course, receiving anything in this format is rather problematic for us: we must pay both local network provider (it's quite expensive, believe me!) and also to news servers if we want to download things faster.
But even in this conditions we've managed to download some HDTV movies in MPEG2-TS (with AC3 sound, of course). (See the list in the end of this post.) Our approach to storing the movies is a bit different: only sometimes we use DL DVD, usually we divide movie to several (2-3-4>) DVD discs.

My question to you is the following: would you be interested in exchanging the missing parts of our collections (1 movie to 1 movie)? It could be done by making copies on DVDs and sending them via some quick mail like DHL Express.
Can you divide movies on your media server to several DVDs in the same way as we do?
Besides, in principle, if you are not interested in the movies we have, we could just buy something from you, if you are willing to sell...

If you are interested, here is our joined list of the HDTV movies (note: 90% of them are in MPEG2-TS, the rest is in smth else like VMW):

(288 movies)

007 - Die another Day
007 - Golden eye
007 - World is not enough
1.9.4.1
12 monkeys
A clockwork orange
A clockwork orange
A fish called Wanda
A Fistful of Dynamite
Aladdin
Alien
Alien 4: Ressurection
Alien Insect - Praying Mantis
Alien vs Predator
All the Pesident's Man
Along Came Polly
Amazing Caves
Amazon
American Splendor
American Splendor
American Wedding
Angel heart
Apocalypse Now redux
Apollo 13
Apollo 13
Armageddon
Austin Powers 3: Goldmember
Bad Boys 2
Bad Santa
Bambi
Baraka
Batman
Batman Forever
Bedazzled
Big Fish
Big Hit
Bikini Destinations - Bahamas
Bikini Destinations - Cancun
Bikini Destinations - Fantasy
Bikini Destinations - Lima
Black Hawk down
Black rain
Blade 2
Blade 2
Blade runner
Boat Trip
Braveheart
Bruce Almighty
Butterfly Effect
Carrie
Casino
Cellular
Chicken Run
Chris titus norman rockwell is bleeding
Chronicles Of Riddick
Club Dread
Cold Mountain
Collateral
Commando
Concert for George
Connie and Carla
Contact
Coral Reef Adventure
Crocodile Dundee 2
Cromwell
Dances with wolves
Daredevil
Dave
Days Of Thunder
Dead Calm
Devil's own
Die Hard
Die Hard 3: With a vengeance
Dirty Dancing
Dirty Harry 5: Dead pool
Dirty rotten scoundrels
Discovery
Dog Day Afternoon
Donnie Brasco
Dracula
Dragnet
Dumb And Dumber
Easy Like Sunday Morning XXX
Ed Wood
Eternal sunshine of spotless mind
Eurotrip
Event horizon
Evil Dead
Eyes wide shut
Face off
Falling down
Fearless
Fight Club
Final destination
Final Destination 2
Final Fantasy
Flatliners
Forrest Gump
Forrest Gump
From dusk till dawn
From Hell
Full metal jacket
Gattaca
Gattaca
Get Shorty
Ghost
Ghost busters
Ghost In the Shell 2
Gladiator
Gladiator
Gone with the wind
Goodfellas
Goodfellas
Hackers
Harry Potter 1
Harry Potter 2
Harry Potter 3
High Def XXX vol.1
Highlander
Hollow man
I Robot
Ice Age
IMAX Alien Adventure
IMAX Antartica
Indiana Jones - Raiders of the lost ark
Iron Giant
Island Fever 3 XXX
Johnny English
Judge Dredd
Jurassic Park III
Kill Bill vol.1
Kill Bill vol.2
Kiss the girls
Last man standing
Laws of Attraction
League of extraordinary gentlemen
Legally Blonde 2
Leon
Lethal weapon
Lethal weapon 2
Lilo and Stitch
Lord of The Rings 3
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the ring
Lord of the Rings: Return of the king
Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
Magic of Flight
Major Legaue
Man on fire
Mars attacks
Matchstick men
Matrix
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Revolutions
Memphis Belle
Men in black
Men in black 2
Menace II Society
Mermaids
Minority Report
Mission Imposible 2
Monsters Inc
Moulin Rouge
Mystic River
Naked gun
Naked gun 2 1/2
Ocean's Eleven
Once Upon a time in Mexico
Panic room
Patriot games
Payback
Paycheck
Peters friends
Phone Booth
Pink Floyd - The Wall
Planes, trains and automobiles
Pocahontas
Prety Woman
Pulp fiction
Real Genius
Red Dragon
Replacement Killers
Resident Evil
Resident Evil Apocalypse
Risky Business
Road Warrior - Mad Max 2
Romancing the stone
Romeo and Juliet
Ronin
Roxanne
Rumble in the Bronx
Saving private Ryan
Scary Movie 3
Scent of a woman
Shark tale
Shaun of Dead
Shrek
Shrek 2
Sinbad
Six degrees of separation
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Sleppy Hollow
Snatch
Speed
Sphere
Spiderman
Spiderman
Spiderman 2
Spy Games
Spy kids 3d
Star Ship Throopers
Star Wars II
Star Wars II
Starsip Troopers
Stepford wives
Strange days
Striptease
Swordfish
Taking Lives
Tango and Cash
Tarzan
Tears of the sun
Terminal
Terminator 1
Terminator 2
Terminator 3
The Bourne identity
The Bourne supremacy
The Cell
The Core
The Craft
The Crow
The Crow City Of angels
The Day After Tomorrow
The Deer Hunter
The Edge
The Fast and Furious
The Fifth Element
The Fifth Element
The Fugitive
The Girl Next Door
The Glimmer Man
The Hunt For Red October
The Italian Job
The last samurai
The Lion King
The Manchurian Candidate
The Missing
The Music Man
The Night of the Generals
The Ocean's Eleven
The Peopele vs Larry Flint
The Punisher
The Ring
The Rock
The Rundown
The Shawshank redemption
The thin red line
The Tuxedo
The Untouchables
The Usual Suspects
The virgin suicides
There is something about Mary
Threesome
THX 1138
Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider 2: Cradle of life
Tombstone
Top Gun
Total recall
Toy Story 2
Transporter
Troy
True Lies
True romance
Truman Show
Two of Kind
U-571
Underworld
Van Helsing
Vhris Titus Norman Rockwell is Bleeding
Waterworld
Wild Things
Wild Wild West
X-men
X-Men 2
XXX

(when some movie is mentioned more than once it means that we have it in several formats like both in MPEG2-PS 1080i and WMV 720p)

[dkv]

In addition I'd like to note that many of us in Russia also use iodata avel linkplayer2 for playing HDTV DVDs, so I'm quite sure about formats compatibility...

[rage2]

haha, no, not really interested in exchange. Just curious who collects that's all.