REAL 727 or 717 forgot the number Investing in Real Estate with John Fischer
Best class I've taken. Easy workload and super relevant and interesting class.
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Thanks guys, will check out REAL 717 and M&A course.
There was a great block week course I took last semester. ENTI 791 Technology Commercialization.
Alfred’s course is much easier than Elias’s btw. And I think the guy is hilarious in a dry Austrian sort of way lol.
It sucks that the evening program is now only offered once a year starting late August. It would be nice to start in January.
Oh well.
January start was quite convenient for me that’s for sure.
Into my third year I am sooooo ready to be done though.
Fuck, I was ready to be done after the first semester.
What did everyone think of the survey on management and data analytics? That course they spoke of was not required in the accelerated so haven't really had any experience with the data analytics classes.
Anyone else doing an exchange this summer?
Never registered for exchange.
Did my final course registration of the program, feels great to have line of sight to being done and get that final elective in for my finance specialization. Was dicey for a while there on if I was going to be able to fit the 4 courses into my schedule and not delay graduation.
Anyone else taking spring FNCE753?
How the F did you register? Fucking server is down on my end.
I was going to register for FNCE 753 in spring but heard it was a brutal course, going to hammer out MGST 715 and BSEN 793 instead I guess. Summer courses don't look too good, whats the Haskayne wilderness shit all about (BSEN 749)?
Wilderness retreat is sitting in drum circles in the woods talking about your feelings. If you need credit it’s one thing but I would avoid.
This registration thing happens every year, I learn to log in half an hour in advance and be ready to click the enroll button right at 10
Yeah that sounds horrible lol.
Fuck, still can't log in and supposedly the courses I want are filled up now. Great.
I took an opma course last summer with Janice that was decent. She’s such a scatter brain but kindof funny.
I took Indigenous Studies last year, business of oil and gas, mental toughness.
Indigenous - Feel good course that makes you want to die of boredom but you write feel good papers and get your A- and never look back
Business of Oil and Gas - Super dry, but interesting if you wanna get high level understanding, prof likes to toot his horn about who he knows etc etc, more heavy on workload but manageable
Mental Toughness - If you want to realize that everyone in this program has mad issues great class. Good to understand mental health issues and become more self aware of the things we do, feel good papers and super easy.
Thanks Ickyflex. Waitlisted for indigenous studies. Do the advisors usually get you through? Didn't think I'd have to worry about registration as a graduate student, but UofC is such a fucking joke it clearly is a problem.
Advisors will not help you with waitlists. One time enough of us bitched for them to add seats to a course, but that is rare.
But I have always gotten in historically lots of people register for too many then drop them.
What position are you?
Mambo # 5
5 is a good push... hopefully you get lucky. I would be finding a backup though...
I took a fall course where someone was offering cash to anyone who would drop the course, I should have taken her up it was a terrible course.
My backup is drop MGST 715 and hit up Japan lol
For the wilderness retreat, do you have to camp with those fools or can you just post up at the delta and show up from 9-5?
I've gone from about a waitlist of 7 to getting into the class a few weeks in advance!
Just be prepared to hear a lot of soapbox discussions on Indigenous people from the TA. Literally extended Friday class last semester from 5pm - 6pm while we were in Kananaskis to talk about how disadvantaged people are and half the class just started getting up and leaving lol.
Ah that does not sound like it would be worth the credits lol.
Anybody taken OPMA with Stoletova? I cannot understand 80% of what she's saying, it's a good thing I'm familiar with the subject matter...
Really disappointed by the course offerings for spring and summer. They really dont offer much of value. That wilderness study that everyone seems to want to go to seems like a massive waste of time and money to me. Would rather have some heding/A&D or tech based courses...
Any of you lads going on the ski trip?
I cant stand most MBA's, especially the daytimes, so I have a hard time attending events.
So no.
Because, like it or not, my job requires pretty rigorous business and financial acumen beyond “engineering” per se. I feel like I would like a more solid basis in business and finance so I at least have some level of confidence in what I am doing professionally. Moreover, more and more having an MBA, and the tools it provides you, in your background is becoming requisite for the kinds of roles and organizations I am interested in.
It not all about wine mixers and debates, and I don’t see my cohort as mere tools to help me get ahead in life. Those are the kind of people I can’t stand.
I can say my mere enrollment in the program are what got me in the door for my past 2 jobs, it is still a degree with value.
I think the same thing.... How the heck is Indigenous Studies, Wilderness Retreat, and to a lesser extent Mental Toughness credit courses in an MBA program? I understand having the MBA behind your name has value, but with how shitty you guys make it sound and how much of a money grab it appears be I don't see how it would make me want to hire you more based on those 3 letters behind your name.
Well you don’t have to take those courses lol. I certainly didn’t.
It's not as though people ask for transcripts when you have an MBA. Also, in defense of Mental Toughness that was actually an interesting class to understand and manage people with mental health issues. The biggest lessons trying to be taught in MBA is disregard your own biases and manage based on fact vs. what you believe.
Nonetheless, I don't doubt at some point in time MBA becomes less valuable as 3 letters in the same fashion that a BCOMM has no credential anymore. To me it's the approach of what can I do to be more competitive in a competitive job market. Crushed my MBA and now moving to a new role new company at a more senior position.
The argument should be, would you pay $20K and grind out 16 months of school to help you land a new role that pays you $20K more? What if the argument is you pay nothing, but the company sponsors it? Means to an end is the way I see it.
Ah, good call. I won’t bother if none of the evening guys are going.
As much as I hate the MBA program at u of c, it has already opened the door to new opportunities for me if I wanted to pursue them. I’ve had 2 very good summer positions offered to me with oil and gas giants in Calgary that I would of never had a chance with before with my undergrad degree and background in construction. It never hurts to upgrade your schooling, and the MBA is a great way to set a foundation to climb into senior roles or make a career change.
Is anyone in OPMA 601 on Tuesday evenings?
Anyone with a stellar digital finance cheat sheet they wanna share for the midterm? FNCE 601
I don’t think I have anything anymore, mine were all hand written and borderline illegible.
Who is your instructor?
Thanks Buster!
Prof is Ryan Stauffer.. mines hand written right now, stupid they don’t give you all the formulas..
Submitted my last paper... as long as I pass everything..
Goodbye MBA!
Good luck bro.
Congrats dude! 2 courses this spring and 4 electives to finish for me. Time flies.
Though I might have to take opma again lol. Horrible experience with the lady teaching it - http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/Show...sp?tid=1085954. Don’t know who thought it was a good idea have this woman teaching an MBA class. I’ll have to see how the final goes in two weeks.
I have 3 courses left. Going to stretch them out and do 2 fall one winter next year.
Solid work fellas
What do you guys think if I take full time job and finish my 5 courses (electives) over 2 semesters in the evening? Will I want to kill myself or is it easily managed?
I wouldn’t call it easy but it can be managed. Depends how demanding the day job is.
I took 5 courses over winter last year while starting a new job, I was busy but I made it work.
I personally get quite anxious when the work day starts to stretch into class time so that was the worst part for me.
2 semesters of it would be hard imo.
There are some electives that can be taken over a 3 week period, all day Saturday and Friday evenings. I found those way easier to pile on since you know it’s over in a few weeks. Between that and taking a week off each semester for block weeks. It can be done.
All depends on the electives chosen. First semester I took three evening electives while working and I found it was less demanding than every other semester thus far. I'd suggest 2/2 and then 1 block week (technology commercialization..5 days off yes but it's done all during that week, nothing more than that week of class)
I did it for several years (pretty much all of my degree) and did not find it difficult. Evening classes are usually a bit easier, and they often end early because the prof wants to get out of there as bad as you do come ~9PM (unless you have one of those students that speaks up even if the class ends 10 min early because they aren't getting their 'money's worth' lol). All my profs were from the UofC.
You will have less free time (obviously) but the biggest factor will probably be how easy you find school in general. I am the type of person who does everything the night before - whether it is study a final exam, midterm, or do a whole term project and I never had any issues. If you're the type of person who needs a long time to prepare for everything then it becomes a lot more time consuming. Group projects in evening classes are the most annoying, but manageable and hopefully few and far between. If you generally find school easy, I say go for it and it probably won't be bad at all.
Thanks gents. Will have to think about it some more.
School sounds like it will be manageable. Just gotta figure out if I want to allocate the majority of my time working for another corporation again!
To be honest should be easy. I did 8 course this year working full time with a 3 month old and started another company during the semester as well. 8 was a little much and was quite burned out by the end but If your a hard worker its certainly doable.
Back to work full time, will only have 4 classes to finish come fall. So figure 2+2 and graduate by April 2020.
Unless I fail OPMA, lol. Got 67.5% in the course, prof wouldn't bump me up to a B- and said it would be moving up the chain. Fuckers better give me that 2.5% for putting me through that horrible experience.
Man my opma course was super easy as an engineer. Like most people I knew walked out with A+’s and 100’s on the exams.
They must have really bumped it up after seeing our grade distribution.
Into my final semester next week. Can’t come soon enough haha
It's not that it was a difficult course, it was just a very poorly delivered one. 70% of our grade was split between midterm and exam, and she developed them in a way that was not intuitive and was a matter of creating a cheat sheet that reflected what she thought was valuable.
Wrote an email to the department that outlined my frustrations with the course;
The first frustration lies within the instruction. Maria's accent made it extremely hard to understand the material and the way it was delivered was nearly impossible to follow. She did not encourage discussion among peers on the subject matter, and we were all treated in a very childish manner when asking questions.
The second frustration lies within the course material. We signed up for an MBA class in Operations Management and we were delivered an undergraduate course that was complete with undergraduate assignments and exams. We were even forced to write our exam with close to 300 other students and were rounded up like cattle in an extremely unsafe matter leading into our final exam as shown in the attached photo. I don't believe that this was fair for any of the MBA students as we paid for a masters course and were not delivered one.
The last frustration lies within Maria's unwillingness to work with students and help them with any issues. I had written several emails to Maria over the semester that were typically ignored, or replied to in a manner that I do not believe is professional. She was nearly impossible to reach during office hours, and on occasion she would turn down students because she had too many at her door during her allotted office hours.
I am disappointed that I have to write this email, but I feel extremely ripped off with what we have been provided in terms of an Operations Management course during this semester and I know that there are several students who feel the same way.
School basically just said sorry, that's not right and left it. Just pisses me off that I put my career on hold so I could get a proper education experience and this is the type of shit my time is wasted on.
Sounds like it!
That is unreal, I'd be annoyed. I'm not surprised granted how they handled the whole "new" accelerated program.
UofC don't give a shit.. tells everyone to pound sand.
It's why I tell people don't bother with MBA unless it's paid for because the quality is the worst.
Shitty deal man, I'd be unimpressed if I were you.
Very unimpressed, but I've caused a huge stink and rallied a bunch of students to write letters regarding the professor so hopefully it gains some traction.
Just added my courses for fall and winter, just looking for some feedback..
Hoping to do the following;
Fall - OBHR 721 Advance Leadership, FNCE 765 Mergers & Acquisitions, ENCI 699 Law for Project Managers
Winter - BSEN 761 Ethics & The Professional Manager, FNCE 759 Investment and Portfolio Management
I know M&A was highly recommended, any feedback on the others?
Thanks gents
Ethics with Janaa is good. Not a bird course by any means but it is a different way of looking at things.
I would have really liked to take new venture law or NV finance but neither worked out for me.
Cool, thanks.
I’m looking for the path of least resistance so maybe ill drop that one then. Really want an easy ride for the next 2 semesters..
Ah alright, I'll suck it up.
Just tired of this program, ready to move on from it.
Here here.
I have two left in the fall. Thinking of a block week to finish my GEMS and either M&A or New Venture Law. anyone take either?
M&A is a good course but is demanding. Much easier if you have Lehar (I personally really like Alfred actually, hilarious dude. )
NV law sounds interesting too.
Just started my last course... time to git r dun
Thanks icky.
Is your last class BTMA601 downtown? That class sucks.
FNCE 753 Main Campus
BTMA 601. I can’t event talk about that class.
Ah right on, good luck with it! Figured out how to to registration proper this time around. Got my fall and winter enrolment completed by 9:31 :D
Went with the sustainable development block week and New Venture Law. Nice to be registering for my final classes but just wish that summer courses were not such shit that I could finish before the fall.
Sustainable development with indigenous people?
Just finished it block week. David Lertzman is great. Content is kind of boring but sparks some good discussion and thinking.
Got my B- after fighting for several weeks. Holy fuck, what a bunch of miserable cunts. Since the professor was such a fucking bitch, and wouldn't budge I had to take it up the line and they said sorry, but you will have to re-take it. So I appealed based on re-grading everything from the course and had to argue my short answers on all my exams and my written work for assignments. Managed to bump up to 74%.
I honestly couldn't recommend this program to anybody. If you've got half a brain, have a decent understanding of business in general and don't need the letters to advance - stay the fuck away.
I would never do an MBA at U of C on my own dime.
Glad to hear you got your credits.
I think the main issue with their program is they let everyone and their dog in. That cascades into so many things, like that they can’t have the good profs teach every section. To them watering down the content to meet the lowest common denominator. To you having to deal with people in groups completely out of their depth.
The content itself varies very little by program or university. Standards however are the differentiator.
But the program is a cash cow so it will never change. I think I would seriously discount the university as a credential for future hires though.
Tough to say, I have had some great profs and some terrible ones where you could tell they would be better at teaching an undergrad course. Kanwal Bokhari comes to mine as the worst prof I have encountered.
As far as students I find it depends on the program. I think the accelerated and evening students I have worked with have been good...now the day time students.. that's another story.