Official Genesis thread. WAS:2019 Hyundai G70

Does anyone else think that the upcoming G70 could be pretty cool? TTV6 365HP/376TQ, Torque Vectoring AWD with a heavy rear bias, Brembo's, Electronically Adjustable Shocks. Former VP of Eng @ BMW M helped develop the chassis and suspension on the car.

If this car undercuts the Germans by 15% or more it could be a pretty good buy. Big question for me is who made the tranny and if that'll be any good and also what the final curb weight shakes out to.

http://autoweek.com/article/car-revi...19-genesis-g70

https://i.imgur.com/5Bfl8uI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1kdFsoa.jpg

Looks pretty sweet. Also they have nicer interiors even than some of the Germans assuming it's the same as the current Genesis'. They need to undercut the Germans by a lot for people to give up that badge pride though. I suspect these will be a hell of a deal on the used market. I also think transmission tuning could make or break the car and they don't mention rev matching.

There's also the Kia stinger which is kinda the "sport" cousin of this car. or maybe the G80 since the Stinger seems bigger.

It's definitely interesting, The G70's interior actually looks very nice and Audi-ish.

Side profile is very BMW-ish… with a little Acura TLX window trim line mixed in. Rear end is Mercedes-ish. Front is no good haha.

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Originally Posted by Mitsu3000gt

Looks pretty sweet. Also they have nicer interiors even than some of the Germans assuming it's the same as the current Genesis'. They need to undercut the Germans by a lot for people to give up that badge pride though. I suspect these will be a hell of a deal on the used market. I also think transmission tuning could make or break the car and they don't mention rev matching.

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Agreed, if this thing is over 50-55K I don't think it will sell.

Transmission appears to have rev matching "The eight-speed automatic shifts quickly and smartly, and it rev matches its downshifts, giving the G70’s powertrain that extra layer of smoothness." - http://www.motortrend.com/cars/genes...ve-seoul-soul/

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Originally Posted by realazy

There's also the Kia stinger which is kinda the "sport" cousin of this car. or maybe the G80 since the Stinger seems bigger.

It's definitely interesting, The G70's interior actually looks very nice and Audi-ish.

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I think it's actually the opposite, this is the sport cousin to the Stinger if anything, it's got a smaller wheelbase and should be lighter.

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Originally Posted by 88CRX

Side profile is very BMW-ish… with a little Acura TLX window trim line mixed in. Rear end is Mercedes-ish. Front is no good haha.

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I think the front actually looks better than the side profile.

I don't think the Germans need to be too worried. I would cross-shop one with a german, because I'm not a brand whore. But most people wouldn't.

The guys who REALLY need to be worried, are the Japanese wannabe brands like Infiniti and Acura. Would i buy this over a C class? Probably not. Would I buy it over a Infinit Q-whatever? Hell ya.

I presume it will have the ZF in it for the tranny?

The Kia Stinger is coming first.

Zero originality in the design, it a mish-mash of everyone else's styling traits. It would have to be boatloads cheaper than the german competitors, and at the end of the day its a Hyundai, no matter how nice its still a discount car brand with horrible resale value. My cousin is a sales manager at a import dealer (toyota/lexus) in Portland Or, the number on car traded in? Late model Hyundai's/Kia's, these owners are almost always terribly upside down on their loans too because of the resale. The cars are a hard sell used and owners tend not to like them much after 2 years. Hyundai/Kia is a starter car, a great "first" new car for under 20 grand for a college/uni grad. There's a long road ahead of them before their a considered worthy luxury alternative to BMW, Lexus, etc....

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Originally Posted by corsvette

Zero originality in the design, it a mish-mash of everyone else's styling traits. It would have to be boatloads cheaper than the german competitors, and at the end of the day its a KIA, no matter how nice its still a discount car brand with horrible resale value. My cousin is a sales manager at a import dealer (toyota/lexus) in Portland Or, the number on car traded in? Late model Hyundai's/Kia's, these owners are almost always terribly upside down on their loans too because of the resale. The cars are a hard sell used and owners tend not to like them much after 2 years. Kia is a starter car, a great "first" new car for under 20 grand for a college/uni grad. There's a long road ahead of them before their a considered worthy luxury alternative to BMW, Lexus, etc....

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This is a Hyundai... not a Kia haha.

But understandable how you can mix them up, they both have the same damn strategy.

These are the types of cars that are great deals for the 2nd owners who end up with a nice car for a great price after depreciation.

I know of a few people with genesis sedans and they are both unreliable. I would pay the Lexus or acura premium for sure. infiniti, maybe not.

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Originally Posted by dirtsniffer

I know of a few people with genesis dedans and they are bot reliable.

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You also know a Beyonder that would say quite the opposite, lol.

Have to admit, I am impressed.

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Originally Posted by Tik-Tok

You also know a Beyonder that would say quite the opposite, lol.

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First thing I thought of when I saw this thread :rofl:
@Phenix

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Originally Posted by heavyD

These are the types of cars that are great deals for the 2nd owners who end up with a nice car for a great price after depreciation.

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This is exactly my thought.

I plan on a new vehicle in a couple years and this will likely be on my list.

I like it, though if I'm going to buy this car, it'd be the Stinger (love me a hatch).

It sounds like the Stinger has a shitty tranny if MT is to be believed.

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Originally Posted by benyl

It sounds like the Stinger has a shitty tranny if MT is to be believed.

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Aww, there it is: the Kia Kompromise.

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Originally Posted by benyl

It sounds like the Stinger has a shitty tranny if MT is to be believed.

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:confused:

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The final piece of the puzzle is an in-house-designed and built eight-speed automatic transmission, the only option. It’s an excellent gearbox, performing as well on the track as the industry standard ZF eight-speed found in many European sport sedans. It changes gears quickly and smoothly, and the Sport mode programming is almost good enough not to need the paddles on track. I’d make it a little more aggressive myself, but it’s close. As for the paddles, their response is a bit slow and inconsistent, and the gearbox will automatically upshift at redline, which always seems to arrive more quickly than anticipated.

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http://www.motortrend.com/cars/kia/s...-drive-review/

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Originally Posted by Tik-Tok

You also know a Beyonder that would say quite the opposite, lol.

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I meant to say the opposite. Haha. Hopefully the car is more reliable than my typing skills.