If you think that the easiest answer to the pandemic healthcare crisis is to remove obesity from our society, then you are operating at a level I cannot comprehend.
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If you think that the easiest answer to the pandemic healthcare crisis is to remove obesity from our society, then you are operating at a level I cannot comprehend.
Thanks. Did some bedtime reading last night, so studies do show a significant shift on obese patients, but not all. The weird thing about the studies is it doesn't break down by age groups (or I missed it). Covid puts more old people into hospital, and obesity does rise against age, but not at the level shifted by obesity.
So yes, it does seem to affect obese people more, but at it's worst it still not showing ICU's are clogged up by obese people (otherwise we'd be way closer to 100%). Could be a red herring, could be just affecting unhealthy people more, period.
You guys tricked me into posting covid thoughts in a fun electoral polling thread.
Obesity is a comorbidity.
If Sarah Hoffman gets CoVid, she is way less likely to get through it without significant symptoms and far more likely to have severe outcomes requiring hospitalization.
(She was the Minister of Health when the NDP were in power. Now I've brought the thread back, LoL!)
I believe you're the one missing the point.
The vaccine for overweight / obese individuals doesn't:
- unfuck their chronic inflammation
- magically remove their higher susceptibility to infections to that of a healthy individual
- fix their dysregulated immune system
- lessen their higher viral loads compared to a healthy individual
- bring their higher risk for hospitalization, complications, severe form of Covid and the need for mechanical ventilation down to that of a healthy individual
The list goes on. You'd think that this should be pretty obvious, all you had to do was read in-between the big fat lines that every country was lumping fatties in with high priority vaccination individuals. Even our Public Health Agency of Canada announced it.
You seriously can't believe that it's primarily healthy people clogging up the ICU, regardless of vaccination status, do you? Again, I have to ask, would your focus on the matter change if Hinshaw included figures that showed 80% of ICU patients are overweight or obese?
Are you confused? I'm saying unvaxxed fatties and vaxxed fatties are fucking us. If you have a problem with that statement then you must be in the camp that believes the vaccine has somehow made you Captain America but you're still looking like The Blob.
Did Africa have access to the vax? They doing fine cuz They not fat and they not old but the west has banned them. So scare lol
Can the obesity problem for healthcare be solved quickly with a needle? No.
Can the pressure Covid patients put on the ICU be solved quickly with a needle? Yes.
The ICU capacity could deal with the obese population fine. It can't when Covid is running rampant. So that's why the focus is on the unvaccinated.
Here we go again, another ride around the actual point on the kertousel of shame......
Seems to me that the Pandemic made clear the blinding issues of our socialized healthcare system.
It’s a modern breadline.
All I'm deducting is that Mark's store shoppers are high risk for Covid death.
Might as well drag another thread into this one.
If 80% are unvaccinated, then no, it wouldn't change my mind. Because COVID is the current problem, not too many frito-lays.
Obesity can be tackled after the pandemic if they wish but, newsflash, governments choose not to because consuming processed crap, dining out, and staying at home watching TV and buying shit is good for corporations and arguably the economy and obesity isn't a contagious virus so people should have more freedom of choice.