This happened about 4 or 5 years ago but I just found the audio clip on my computer and thought I'd share the hilarity.
A number of years ago one of my developer friends passed some work onto me saying he wasn't interested, which I thought was very odd. So I talked to the guy and did some work on his New Guinea website he has, it was showing all kinds of errors. We discussed the work somewhere around $100, I completed it and drove over to his house to pick up the money. He comes out with $60 saying I did it pretty quick and he thinks it should only be about $60 worth of work, then he goes back inside. WTF?
Naturally I went straight home and reverted all the changes to the website until he paid me the rest of my money and this is the voicemail he left on my phone:
This guy was legitimately nuts, he asked me where I work so he could drop the cheque by but when I told him, he said he was going to come by and shoot me. What a nutjob. I made sure to thank my friend for passing the work along. In the end I left his website with all the errors, kept his $60 and ignored all his communication attempts. He got someone else to fix it shortly after.
04-21-2014, 11:05 AM
schocker
Should have sent him this:
04-21-2014, 11:06 AM
A790
Never deploy prior to payment. I always do milestones: Initial deposit, 50% deployment, final payment, final deployment.
In that order, always.
04-21-2014, 11:07 AM
n1zm0
:rofl: let us see the website pls
04-21-2014, 05:41 PM
khanan
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Originally posted by schocker Should have sent him this:
Holy shit I can't stop laughing lol
I always pictured someone else sayong u wot m8, but this is too funny lol
04-21-2014, 06:04 PM
revelations
100$ for a website, is this.... 1997?
04-21-2014, 09:42 PM
Maybelater
hahaha be careful nobody likes being shooted
04-21-2014, 10:02 PM
Nismorphed
Is the website still up? Can we have link?
04-21-2014, 10:54 PM
Mar
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Originally posted by revelations 100$ for a website, is this.... 1997?
I generally don't do websites for under $10,000, this was just fixing an error with a Wordpress plugin. It took me about 5 minutes once I got in there and looked at it, but by that point we already agreed on the price.
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Originally posted by Nismorphed Is the website still up? Can we have link?
I just looked it up to see if it's still active, it's under a slightly different name but it's still there. I'd post it here but there's a contact link on the site and I definitely don't want this guy popping a cap up my ass because someone sent them this link.
04-21-2014, 11:12 PM
Sugarphreak
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04-21-2014, 11:16 PM
JRSC00LUDE
I disagree Sugarphreak, the guy ripped Mar off and got what he deserved.
04-21-2014, 11:27 PM
A790
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Originally posted by Sugarphreak He sounded like he was just angry and in the heat of the moment he lost his cool over the phone, that doesn't sound like a legitimate death threat.
IMO you shouldn't have taken the money at all if you were not satisfied with the payment. If you wanted 100$, you should have stated either he hands you 100$ or you will leave with nothing and revert the website... taking the 60$ is the universal sign of a completed deal, which is probably why he was upset afterwards. Plus by not providing him any value for his money, you basically stole 60$ from the guy.
Not trying to give you a hard time Mar, but this is how it looks from an outside perspective
How did he not provide any value?
We don't know what kind of experience Mar has, and what took him 5 minutes might have taken another developer two hours.
He fixed the guys problem, they agreed on a price. Guy didn't pay it. How is that Mar's fault?
04-21-2014, 11:29 PM
Sugarphreak
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04-21-2014, 11:38 PM
syscal
I'm with Sugarphreak on this one. Mar should have returned the $60 or not taken it at all.
04-21-2014, 11:43 PM
Mar
My fear was I would refuse the $60 and he would change the passwords so I couldn't revert it. Then I'm out all my time with no money. If I took whatever he offered, I could work to get the rest of the money afterwords with any means at my disposal. It's not quite the same as the Kijiji deal because I already gave him the product and he couldn't return my time to me. Either he paid me or he didn't, I was out the product either way.
So using your Kijiji example, it'd be the same as if he took your item, smashed it on the ground, then handed you the $60.
04-21-2014, 11:47 PM
A790
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Originally posted by Sugarphreak How did he rip him off exactly... they agreed on the phone to a price, Mar said he spent 5 minutes on it... then when he showed up the guy attempted to negotiate with respect to the time.
If the price was set and he wasn't willing to negotiate, he shouldn't have taken 60$ plain and simple.
I am not saying the guy shouldn't have paid 100$, but when you take money you are agreeing to the deal.
It also doesn't change the fact that by reverting everything the guy got zero value for his cash... that is by definition stealing.
If he got nothing for his 60$ at all, I don't see how this guy got anything for it?
Take for instance a deal with somebody on Kijiji for a similar amount of money. You agree on 100$... when you meet up, the guy pulls a bitch move and tries to hand you 60$. Yes it is annoying and not in good faith, that isn't being disputed. However if you take the money... it is still a deal. You can't go steal it back from him while he isn't looking and say that is a fair way to deal with it.
That'd like me agreeing to pay you $100 to mow my lawn, and then once you've done it giving you $60 and basically telling you to pound salt. What do you do? Take the money and feel devalued, but at least compensated in some way, or do nothing and have now both no money and time wasted?
In reality, the customer stole $40 from him.
04-22-2014, 07:24 AM
Sugarphreak
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04-22-2014, 07:28 AM
CapnCrunch
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Originally posted by syscal I'm with Sugarphreak on this one. Mar should have returned the $60 or not taken it at all.
He had already spent his time and fixed the problem.
04-22-2014, 07:58 AM
JRSC00LUDE
We built a store for a contract price, the owner then chose to pay only what they decided it was worth. Of course we took the bit of money they gave, then we took measures to get the rest. That didn't mean the deal was accepted and done, we eventually won the rest by negotiations and other means, including being granted the right to seize it and take it back.
Same thing, Mar wins. He didn't steal anything or do anything else wrong.