I see nothing in that article about ICU's, just Emergency, which is usually filled with people with the sniffles, or drunk people with a broken toe.Quote:
Originally Posted by jutes
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I see nothing in that article about ICU's, just Emergency, which is usually filled with people with the sniffles, or drunk people with a broken toe.Quote:
Originally Posted by jutes
Do you just hate fun?Quote:
Originally Posted by cjblair
He swears sweatpants 24/7 so I'm inclined to say yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by killramos
Affirmative.Quote:
Originally Posted by killramos
One could make the argument that 24/7 sweats is actually in indicator for higher fun levels. Pre-covid, I wore a suit all the time; suits are not fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by flipstah
No fun. No cool. Carry on.
I just want to have an excuse for other people to buy me beer while I look at girls in tight clothing. Stampede is the best one of those I've ever found.
This is true, ERs are essentially ghost towns in this country right now and people are afraid of seeking care. If ICU overcapacity was increased over the summer, which was the purpose of the first lockdowns, we wouldn’t need restrictions and curfews this fall. Instead, no one did a single fucking thing to prepare for the second wave everyone knew was coming. This is a collective failure in government and medical systems and the large majority of the population is barring the brunt of their incompetence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tik-Tok
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...care-1.5723342Quote:
Originally Posted by Tik-Tok
This one talks about ICU specifically. Essentially it is routine to run at 90% capacity and a lot of times above that. But the government doesn't want to release the data during the pandemic because they know the media will turn it into a fear frenzy when people think that current ICU capacity is due to covid. We have a pile more space we can utilize for ICU if need be, but we have never been near needing to do that.
I guess you can take the doctor referenced in the article for whatever it's worth to you.
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Lockdowns are a giant failure on the governments part, as they have never been needed or helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by jutes
We survived Christmas with surprisingly good effort and numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Misterman
Lockdown works. Been proven twice now. But we just don't have the will and economy to do it for long.
But now with US/UK/Brazil/SA variants, they seems to render all our measures except may be vaccines pointless now. So your view is probably less wrong.
As for ICU, I heard it's now 4:1 now as patients vs staff in some wards in Ontario. ICU is usually 1:1 to 2:1. When politicians say they have more beds, it's just a lie because it's never about beds and I don't think we just graduated 4x more RNs in 2020 than any other years.
That said was out and about and surprised that there are 50% mask compliance rate outdoor at a park that I was taking advantage of before polar votex comes in. It definitely shame me enough to put mine on.
A Covid-style stampede would be fucking awesome. VIP access that you have to pre-purchase online with proper social distancing. Cost will be like 200% higher to accommodate less traffic but you can now actually enjoy Stampede. I don't do all that bullshit partying at the grounds, so it would be pretty awesome for normal family stuff.
But too bad that will never, ever happen as I doubt Stampede can breakeven at even charging a 200% mark-up.
On the stricter side of the spectrum, look at Wuhan and their waterpark concert with no masks after months of 0 cases. Living life normal now pretty much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xtrema
Fucking look at us North American dummies...
Shutdowns/lockdowns do NOT work, Stanford just did a peer reviewed study, as posted yesterday. Lets stop drinking the bullshit kool aid.
link?Quote:
Originally Posted by revelations
I agree. Lock down is pointless if everyone adhere to guidances.Quote:
Originally Posted by revelations
And if you read that research, it also list what are the most effective policies:
1. - Social Distance
2. - Contact Tracing detection and Home isolation/quarantine
3. - Travel Ban
Basically, a full lockdown is just a hail mary when 2 fails.
"In other words, it is possible that stay-at-home orders may facilitate transmission if they increase person-to-person contact where transmission is efficient - such as closed spaces.”
You're on the service side bro, you're the one who buys beer these days!Quote:
Originally Posted by ExtraSlow
I keep forgetting this detail.Quote:
Originally Posted by schurchill39
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...1111/eci.13484Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster
Don’t worry. We have all noticed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ExtraSlow
I suppose it depends on your definition of "works". If someone is concerned with scary case numbers instead of meaningful statistics, it could be viewed that lockdowns work. Doing 10 times the harm to the public than the disease we are unsuccessfully trying to prevent, isn't really a working model in my mind. Especially when an option like giving everyone 5000iu of VitD every day is shown to be like 80% more effective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xtrema
As long as people buy Cowboy Boots I will be happy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Disoblige
Lets gooooo Stampede!