You could argue that about any tire distributor
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My Hakka 10's were only 650$ mounted and balanced through Kal tire. Was cheaper than I expected tbh. Granted they're tiny ass 15" wheels though.
Jesus. I typically pay closer to that cost per tire :rofl:
Drove to Jasper the long way today on some 4 season old performance winters, was really pleased with them, other people weren’t so pleased that I was passing them in legal passing zones and two lane highways.
I have been pleased with the performance of my Toyos in this weather, a solid winter tire.
Man, no point in trying to break down stuff like this, truthfully. People will disagree with you just as you will disagree with them. I can line up 10 guys and let them test 10 different tires and every single one of those tires will have lovers and haters. Just the way it is. There are too many variables that affect how a tire behaves, functionality, preference, etc to blanket call a product good for all or bad for all.
Even your comment for example... You say you find them loud, but I have tons of customers who rave about how smooth and quiet they are! Haha! Just like some people say they are slippery while others say they are the stickiest thing in the world. It just isn't as simple as that. Change the temps by 15 degrees, or put them on a heavier vehicle or a lighter vehicle, aggressive driver, passive driver, FWD versus RWD versus AWD let alone accounting for the traction bias, road construction material, etc etc etc... All these things, and way more, have radical effects on how a specific tire performs in any given situation.
Lots of vehicles don’t have a proper limited slip diff or they try to electronically simulate one by braking one wheel (but sometimes only when turning). No amount of amazing winter tire is going to give you the traction some people seem to expect. But they can still go around turns or stop incredibly quick. Plenty of grip with 4 tires but 1 tire spinning can only do so much.
Yes the correct test of winter tires is stopping and turning. A pickup truck on worn all seasons can get moving from a stop light just fine.
What do you guys do for directional tire rotations? Back-to-front and front-to-back over and over? Or do you guys remount and swap sides when the need arises?
For you guys with the full-sized spare, are you guys just using a plain old symmetric all-season/all-weather tire and leaving it out the rotation?
For tires you change seasonally? Mark them when you take them off in the spring and install in different position.
Mark em when I take them off and then have a look when I put them on next season to see where to put them. Most grippy always go on the front. If they’re directional I never remount them. Only do front to back rotations.
Fixed that for you maybe? It's getting pretty late in the day for statistics, but I wouldn't give two shits about what goes where. I might measure tread depth and put the deeper ones on the front (edit: deeper ones on the back, you stupid fuck) but that's it.
I noticed the guy that changed my tires over marked them with the corner they came from, but as long as no more or no less than one tire is mounted on each wheel I don't really care.
Probably the right attitude. Reps sent.
Actually, Beyonders shouldn't be keeping vehicles long enough to worry about rotating tyres