Yeah but they had to put on 20" wheels with 30 series tires to attain these numbers. I'm waiting to see what happens to performance once people start slapping on 18's as I think it's going to affect the handling and balance of the car. It's performance is special but it's still got the mediocre Civic interior and one of the worst infotainment systems in all of automobiles and it's not pretty to look at. Like the EVO X, STI, Focus RS it's still a flawed car due to the economy car it's based on. Audi RS3 has one of the most brilliant engines in existence but is that a special car? Cars perform so well these days it's hard to separate special from everything else. I think maybe the most special thing about this car is that they attained all that performance without compromising the ride quality of the car which is by most accounts as good as a Golf R. That said you will have a camp of people complaining because of that it's not as raw as previous Type R's.