Does anyone use tire savers/Race Ramps for car storage?

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10-14-2021, 09:35 AM
shakalaka

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Originally Posted by cjblair

Lol fuel stabilizer, what is this the 1970s?
@shakalaka just sell it, you'll want something different come springtime ;)

Can't say the thought hasn't crossed my mind but it doesn't make sense getting anything similar right before winter and typically you get shafted on value for these sort of vehicles right before winter and I am not desperate to sell so will sit on it. If I can, I might move it in Spring for something else, otherwise will enjoy it for one more summer at least lol.

But storage with stabilizer and a trickle charger sounds good and should do the trick. It'll be in a heated garage anyway so shouldn't be too big of a deal.
10-14-2021, 09:42 AM
mr2mike

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Originally Posted by dj_rice

Do you guys typically do an oil change right before storage?

And let the oil age over the winter? Nope.
Car sits. Change oil and filter in spring. Crank motor with fuse out to get oil pressure up. Put back fuse. Start car.

I also don't start car weekly in winter.
10-14-2021, 11:52 AM
bjstare

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Originally Posted by mr2mike

And let the oil age over the winter? Nope.
Car sits. Change oil and filter in spring. Crank motor with fuse out to get oil pressure up. Put back fuse. Start car.

I also don't start car weekly in winter.

He's storing the car for months, not decades. Oil doesn't "go bad" sitting (or at least not that quickly).

My un-researched assumption was that it's better to do fresh oil before storage because then the cars not sitting full of old oil that's full of contaminants :dunno:
10-14-2021, 12:16 PM
Twin_Cam_Turbo

I’d rather change my oil in spring since oil sitting over winter in our climate has a chance of going through condensation cycles.
10-14-2021, 01:21 PM
JordanEG6

So just some context here:

- Brand spanking new 2021 model, 3000km on it
- No oil change
- Full gas tank
- Tire pressures optimized
- Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s on all wheels (24530ZR20s)
- Non-heated, but insulated garage
- No car cover

Having said all that I don't think I need to worry about stabilizers or batteries or anything I need to add or take away really.

The consensus seems like it's not needed and any flat spots after 6 months of sitting, it should be good to go after a few runs out in the Spring? I'd rather do without the ramps as it saves me the cost, so this is good news.
10-14-2021, 01:24 PM
ThePenIsMightier

Quote:

Originally Posted by JordanEG6

So just some context here:

- Brand spanking new 2021 model, 3000km on it
- No oil change
- Full gas tank
- Tire pressures optimized
- Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s on all wheels (24530ZR20s)
- Non-heated, but insulated garage
- No car cover

Having said all that I don't think I need to worry about stabilizers or batteries or anything I need to add or take away really.

The consensus seems like it's not needed and any flat spots after 6 months of sitting, it should be good to go after a few runs out in the Spring? I'd rather do without the ramps as it saves me the cost, so this is good news.

Yes, but if it's cleaned or waxed, I'd put a cover on it.
I'd maybe consider extra 10-15psi of air over normal.
10-14-2021, 01:54 PM
bjstare

Quote:

Originally Posted by JordanEG6

So just some context here:

- Brand spanking new 2021 model, 3000km on it
- No oil change
- Full gas tank
- Tire pressures optimized
- Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s on all wheels (24530ZR20s)
- Non-heated, but insulated garage
- No car cover

Having said all that I don't think I need to worry about stabilizers or batteries or anything I need to add or take away really.

The consensus seems like it's not needed and any flat spots after 6 months of sitting, it should be good to go after a few runs out in the Spring? I'd rather do without the ramps as it saves me the cost, so this is good news.

I mean, you probably should do something about the battery. Why not put it on a tender, they're cheap.

If you aren't doing anything with the wheels/tires, then make sure it definitely doesn't get moved when it's freezing out. Apparently those tires are super sensitive to flexing when cold, and rapid temp/pressure change.
10-14-2021, 02:11 PM
LilDrunkenSmurf

As stated, I top the tank off, throw a tender on the battery, and don't fuck with it til Spring. All my oil changes in the spring, so there's no condensation in the oil. I do this for 2 cars and a bike for the last few years.
10-14-2021, 02:14 PM
mr2mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjblair

He's storing the car for months, not decades. Oil doesn't "go bad" sitting (or at least not that quickly).

My un-researched assumption was that it's better to do fresh oil before storage because then the cars not sitting full of old oil that's full of contaminants :dunno:

I felt like SportEL looking for articles to back my statement up.
Haha.https://www.amsoil.com/newsstand/mot...-deteriorates/

Car sits for basically 7 months. Why have new expensive oil in there?!
But unlike SportEL, I don't give a shit. Do what you want. Jerk off into the tank like @Penis Mightyer would pump as the best fuel stabilizer. I don't care.
10-14-2021, 02:33 PM
JordanEG6

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjblair

I mean, you probably should do something about the battery. Why not put it on a tender, they're cheap.

If you aren't doing anything with the wheels/tires, then make sure it definitely doesn't get moved when it's freezing out. Apparently those tires are super sensitive to flexing when cold, and rapid temp/pressure change.

Just ordered a battery tender off Amazon.

I do know about the tires being hockey pucks in the winter and prone to cracking in extreme low temps. I plan to literally leave it be for 6 months until Spring allows me to bring her out again.

Thanks all for the advice.
10-14-2021, 02:46 PM
tirebob

Quote:

Originally Posted by JordanEG6

So just some context here:

- Brand spanking new 2021 model, 3000km on it
- No oil change
- Full gas tank
- Tire pressures optimized
- Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s on all wheels (24530ZR20s)
- Non-heated, but insulated garage
- No car cover

Having said all that I don't think I need to worry about stabilizers or batteries or anything I need to add or take away really.

The consensus seems like it's not needed and any flat spots after 6 months of sitting, it should be good to go after a few runs out in the Spring? I'd rather do without the ramps as it saves me the cost, so this is good news.

@JordanEG6

Sport Cup 2's are definitely one of the tires that is a little more sensitive in the compounding than everyday tires and flat-spotting sitting in the cold is legit. Once they warm and get used some after winter it often might be enough to bring them back but I would personally not park on those all winter long in a cold unheated garage. Even if you could park on some old thick carpet pieces or something is a help as the concrete will transfer a lot of cold in from the ground outside, and braking that up a bit isn't the worst idea.
10-14-2021, 04:09 PM
dj_rice

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Originally Posted by tirebob

@JordanEG6

Even if you could park on some old thick carpet pieces or something is a help as the concrete will transfer a lot of cold in from the ground outside, and braking that up a bit isn't the worst idea.

So this tip is true!!! I read it online but thought it was whack but coming from you...
10-14-2021, 04:32 PM
tirebob

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_rice

So this tip is true!!! I read it online but thought it was whack but coming from you...

I won't go as far to say it is a perfect solution for every tire in every situation, but I know guys who do it and swear by it for sure.
10-14-2021, 05:19 PM
JordanEG6

Quote:

Originally Posted by tirebob

@JordanEG6

Sport Cup 2's are definitely one of the tires that is a little more sensitive in the compounding than everyday tires and flat-spotting sitting in the cold is legit. Once they warm and get used some after winter it often might be enough to bring them back but I would personally not park on those all winter long in a cold unheated garage. Even if you could park on some old thick carpet pieces or something is a help as the concrete will transfer a lot of cold in from the ground outside, and braking that up a bit isn't the worst idea.

I cut up 8 spare mid pile carpet pieces and will try it out by doubling up underneath each tire. Thanks for the advice!
10-14-2021, 07:13 PM
rc2002

Some summer tires suffer performance degradation if stored below freezing. I had some Advan AD08 tires and the manufacturer specifically recommended they be kept out of freezing temperatures. That said, I always store my tires indoors when they are not on the car (summer or winter tires) in double plastic bags and this seems to help reduce weathering.

Might be best to check the manufacturer recommendations on storage. Many times they are published, if not then you can send them an email or call them.
10-14-2021, 07:14 PM
ThePenIsMightier

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Originally Posted by richardchan2002

Some summer tires suffer performance degradation if stored below freezing. I had some Advan AD08 tires and the manufacturer specifically recommended they be kept out of freezing temperatures. That said, I always store my tires indoors when they are not on the car (summer or winter tires) in double plastic bags and this seems to help reduce weathering.

Might be best to check the manufacturer recommendations on storage. Many times they are published, if not then you can send them an email or call them.

AD08 are true, R-compound tires, though.
They should definitely be kept above zero.
10-14-2021, 07:53 PM
bjstare

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Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier

AD08 are true, R-compound tires, though.
They should definitely be kept above zero.

PS Cup2s aren't far off.
10-14-2021, 08:00 PM
ThePenIsMightier

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Originally Posted by cjblair

PS Cup2s aren't far off.

They either R or they Rn't

*wins internet
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10-14-2021, 09:58 PM
haggis88

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