ok so i met up with redline_13000 last night to look at 2 pioneer subs.....i have to say they were nice subs but as I looked at them a little closer i realized he didnt even take the time to put all the screws in so the box wasnt air tight.....but that was a minor thing....then came the price...he asked me what i thought and i said 120ish.......he said he was thinking 150ish....now if i go back his exact words in his thread were "hey..i have 2 12" Pioneer ts-303c subs here for sale...160 watts rms per sub/500 max...never put full power into them..mint condition only used 2 months...will throw in a very nice box...asking 130 obo".....now i know its only 20-30 bucks but comon man......i may not know alot about subs but i aint stupid.......other than that he seemed like a nice guy