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Nothing revolutionary is out with nougat. Especially qualcomm has officially ditched the driver development for Nougat for the 80* chipset and left that in the hand of open source community.
The only thing that will be interesting is if Google continuing with Nexus line or really calling it Pixel since the mission of Nexus is no longer needed due to cheap Chinese device makers like OnePlus/ZTE/Xiaomi.
Really this is all but officially announced at this point. Android Police have had some pretty solid inside sources in the past.Quote:
Originally posted by Xtrema
The only thing that will be interesting is if Google continuing with Nexus line or really calling it Pixel since the mission of Nexus is no longer needed due to cheap Chinese device makers like OnePlus/ZTE/Xiaomi.
It does make me sad however. I have been an avid nexus lover since the G1. I doubt the Pixel lineup is going to have the same spirit.
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I have Android N 7.0 on my Nexus 6P and love it. Simple changes but multitasking, quick switching, quick reply, all perfect. The 128gb 6P wasn't cheap, but cheap compared to its Apple counterpart, so I wonder if Pixel phones will be more money?
The LG V20 comes with Android 7.0.Quote:
Originally posted by 01RedDX
Seems that no new phones will come with 7.0 as the Pixel/PixelXL are expected to ship with 7.1.
Hoping some current Nexus/Pixel C users will weigh in with their Nougat UX. Apparently the Pixel C is built in-house so an all-google phone can't be far behind.
I have 7.0 on my Nexus 9, I like it. Very fast as always, split screen works really well. Quick app switching is great (you can do 3 things at once in 3 different apps split screen mode), notifications have been further improved, doze is smarter, it supports Vulkan, and they rebuilt the entire section of android to make it invulnerable to anything like stagefight in the future.
Gmail, Messenger, and WhatsApp already had quick reply for ages, so I didn't notice much difference there.
Another cool thing it does is warns you if the caller is suspected spam/telemarketing and allows you to quickly block them.
It also has even more customization, you can pretty well control everything.
OTA's on the 6P's started rolling out too, so a lot more people should have it soon.
Based on the rumored US pricing, they should be about the same as the 6P ($650-750 CAD) Should undercut the competition by several hundred (hopefully). If the rumored specs are true they could easily get iPhone prices though, so I really hope they don't go down that pricing path with Pixel.Quote:
Originally posted by JustinMCS
I have Android N 7.0 on my Nexus 6P and love it. Simple changes but multitasking, quick switching, quick reply, all perfect. The 128gb 6P wasn't cheap, but cheap compared to its Apple counterpart, so I wonder if Pixel phones will be more money?
oops quoted myself haha
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Not yet because I only have 7.0 on my Nexus 9. Should have it on my 6P soon and I'm sure it will get tested then haha.Quote:
Originally posted by 01RedDX
Oh man this thing is sweet. :drool:
Have you had the built-in spam call blocker go off yet? Seems like a great feature to have. :thumbsup:
https://www.androidpolice.com/wp-con...ader_thumb.gif
After the call you can easily block them, report it as spam, or mark it as a legitimate caller.
I thought LG is plagued with QC problems though so I would be very hesitant about the V20.
Looking forward to seeing the pixels though as I will be looking for a new phone in the new year. Should be lots of lower priced options, Axon 7, OP3, Pixel 5".
You can have the same thing if you replace your dialer with TruCaller which Cyanogen is now packaged with.Quote:
Originally posted by 01RedDX
Have you had the built-in spam call blocker go off yet? Seems like a great feature to have. :thumbsup:
Somehow I doubt Pixel is going to be low cost. They can continue with Nexus line if they want to do that.Quote:
Originally posted by schocker
I thought LG is plagued with QC problems though so I would be very hesitant about the V20.
Looking forward to seeing the pixels though as I will be looking for a new phone in the new year. Should be lots of lower priced options, Axon 7, OP3, Pixel 5".
I have just been going into the 'people & options' menu after and blocking the # after a call.Quote:
Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
After the call you can easily block them, report it as spam, or mark it as a legitimate caller.
No update on my 5X yet.
Should be a very boring event unless every rumor has been completely wrong for months on end haha. No surprises anymore these days:
Phones - Pixel 5" & 5.5" versions. Only real differences will be the body, battery, screen, and price. Flagship specs throughout (SD 820/821, 4GB ram, etc.) HTC will make both but you may not see any HTC branding. Should be another pair of great phones with flagship specs and upper-mid range pricing.
Nexus 7 successor - Huawei made, probably similar specs to the phones.
4K Chromecast
Google Home - additional coverage
The call blocking isn't too groundbreaking, and apps can do it too. I believe what's important is it is baked into android, and it remembers your spam list across devices and after resets.Quote:
Originally posted by n1zm0
I have just been going into the 'people & options' menu after and blocking the # after a call.
No update on my 5X yet.
You can very easily force this update if you want. I have been running it on my 6P and my wifes 5X as well as my Nexus 9 since the day it was released. I have been very happy with 7.0.Quote:
Originally posted by n1zm0
No update on my 5X yet.
You can side load the update if you want, takes 5 mins tops. Or you can enroll in the android beta program, then leave the program after you get 7.0. OTA's for 5X/6P started rolling out in the last day or two so it shouldn't be too long now regardless.
Google needs to start making their own SoCs I think. Apple is killing Qualcomm in that department now. Has there even been a date set for the Pixel announcement? I was hoping by the end of the month. My N5 needs upgrading.
Apple doesn't make their own SoC, Samsung and TSMC make it. It also resulted in them having two different A9's that performed significantly different with regards to battery life. Apple and Qualcomm take different approaches and it's difficult to compare them directly. The hardware and OS' they run on are also very different. The other thing that makes comparisons difficult is vastly different release schedules. Quacomm's flagship cpu generally gets put to work in the Galaxy Sx at the beginning of the year, where Apple's cpu's debut in September, so you're never comparing technology of the same 'vintage' in a world where entire overhauls happen every year. Samsung has some pretty beastly Exynos processors of their own as well. There tends to be a leap frogging effect.Quote:
Originally posted by GoChris
Google needs to start making their own SoCs I think. Apple is killing Qualcomm in that department now. Has there even been a date set for the Pixel announcement? I was hoping by the end of the month. My N5 needs upgrading.
The processing power in phones these days is so far above what the average user requires, that the general responsiveness (virtually instant) has barely changed over the last few years. Where it may start to make more of a difference is with 4K screens and VR.
Oct 4 is most likely the day for the Pixel announcements.
Apple designs their own chips, I know they don't manufacture them, but they sure design/make them. They aren't just a ~half year ahead, they are much further ahead.
And yes, we can compare them by running the same benchmarks and tests against them, it is done ALL the time.
This was completely overblown. Pretty much only happens in 1 specific benchmark test that's not representative of real world.Quote:
Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
It also resulted in them having two different A9's that performed significantly different with regards to battery life.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/10...two-apple-a9s/
I cracked the screen on my Note 3. Been looking for a new phone since all repair shops wants $300 for a screen replacement. :eek: I'd be all over a Oneplus if it had expandable storage.
Came across this new phone. https://www.zteusa.com/axon7/ Pre-order is up on Newegg Canada for $520. Very tempted.
Did you think adding pressure sensitive digitizers would make a screen cheaper to replace?Quote:
Originally posted by sl888
I cracked the screen on my Note 3. Been looking for a new phone since all repair shops wants $300 for a screen replacement. :eek: I'd be all over a Oneplus if it had expandable storage.
Came across this new phone. https://www.zteusa.com/axon7/ Pre-order is up on Newegg Canada for $520. Very tempted.
Been considering one of those BLU phones on Amazon for my parents. Reviews seem good other than zero support from manufacturer on software updates?
Also, my Nexus 6 is still on Marshmallow :cry: :cry:
Android is a swiss army knife.Quote:
Originally posted by GoChris
Google needs to start making their own SoCs I think. Apple is killing Qualcomm in that department now. Has there even been a date set for the Pixel announcement? I was hoping by the end of the month. My N5 needs upgrading.
iOS is just a knife, a really good knife.
iOS is tailor made to limited set of hardware. Android is made for all combinations out there.
This is why Android can innovate faster than iOS but when iOS execute something, it tends to have better experiences than everyone else.
Axon 7 irl seems to be slower than Oneplus 3. But it could be the 2K screen. I 'm also wary of these Chinese phone makers, especially from 3rd party re sellers, which had been caught with spyware.Quote:
Originally posted by sl888
I cracked the screen on my Note 3. Been looking for a new phone since all repair shops wants $300 for a screen replacement. :eek: I'd be all over a Oneplus if it had expandable storage.
Came across this new phone. https://www.zteusa.com/axon7/ Pre-order is up on Newegg Canada for $520. Very tempted.
But at this point, unless the manufacturer promises monthly or quarterly updates, I won't bother. So far I think only Cyanogen and Nexus/Pixel follows that.
Unless Pixel shines, I may be going back to iPhone. :nut:
That Axon 7 looks like a nice phone. Updates are key though.
Any S7 Note users, don't worry. You can use your devices "safely" again.
You just only get access to 60% of battery capacity :rofl:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/sa...arge-1.3759648Quote:
Samsung plans to issue a software update for its recalled Galaxy Note 7 smartphones that will prevent them from overheating by limiting battery recharges to 60 per cent.
Those with carrier locked phones will get the safety update via their respective carriers sometime around summer 2017. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally posted by killramos
Any S7 Note users, don't worry. You can use your devices "safely" again.
You just only get access to 60% of battery capacity :rofl:
This is arguably one of the most important aspects of a given phone though. My oneplus gets updated quite infrequently, and that's a major driver for me to go back to Nexus (or, well, Google I guess, since they're dropping Nexus branding).Quote:
Originally posted by jwslam
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Reviews seem good other than zero support from manufacturer on software updates?
I had been looking at the axon, but the zte overlay and removed features would make me get the OP3 over it. Still hoping the pixel will be more reasonable priced as I am interested in the smaller one.
You know that's just temporary, right? So people can use their phones until a new one arrives. Seems like a very reasonable solution for the time being.Quote:
Originally posted by killramos
Any S7 Note users, don't worry. You can use your devices "safely" again.
You just only get access to 60% of battery capacity :rofl:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/sa...arge-1.3759648
Why not post in the dedicated Note 7 recall thread?
Coming from the guy who litters the apple thread(s) with Android phone recommendations :rofl:
Huh? I responded to a specific question in that thread, since the person was considering a GS7 and asked for people who have switched back and forth between apple and android in the past to chime in. My recommendation was not even to switch, but to try out both and see what he prefers. I honestly couldn't possibly care less what phones/devices people use, and I am about a 50/50 split myself.Quote:
Originally posted by killramos
Coming from the guy who litters the apple thread(s) with Android phone recommendations :rofl:
I just think it's funny because if someone were to post about every reported Apple issue in the Apple thread, especially if there was already a dedicated thread for said issue, people would be losing their minds :nut:
No but only my glass is cracked, the LCD and digitizer is fine. No repair shop will replace just the glass. They all want to do a whole front replacement.Quote:
Originally posted by jwslam
Did you think adding pressure sensitive digitizers would make a screen cheaper to replace?
Which features?Quote:
Originally posted by schocker
I had been looking at the axon, but the zte overlay and removed features would make me get the OP3 over it. Still hoping the pixel will be more reasonable priced as I am interested in the smaller one.
One of the big ones is that you can't view lock screen notifications without interacting with the lock screen and then if you are doing that, why not just unlock the phone.Quote:
Originally posted by sl888
No but only my glass is cracked, the LCD and digitizer is fine. No repair shop will replace just the glass. They all want to do a whole front replacement.
Which features?
Because they can't. They are laminated together as one assembly due to the race to be the thinnest.Quote:
Originally posted by sl888
No but only my glass is cracked, the LCD and digitizer is fine. No repair shop will replace just the glass. They all want to do a whole front replacement.
Mobile phones have literally been like this since 2012 or so. As the tech shrinks in thickness while the desire for increased resolution, the price is going to grow.
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Again that's why I'm not trusting all these Chinese Android phone makers. I have always been on Nexus devices and only tried OnePlus because of Cyanogen.Quote:
Originally posted by 01RedDX
A really good knife that gets dull really fast and costs as much as 2-3 similar Android knives.
So many reports international version of these ROMs are littered with backdoors and spyware.
It is possible to separate the glass from the rest. Probably not recommended but it can be done.Quote:
Originally posted by spike98
Because they can't. They are laminated together as one assembly due to the race to be the thinnest.
Mobile phones have literally been like this since 2012 or so. As the tech shrinks in thickness while the desire for increased resolution, the price is going to grow.
Here are the Google Pixel Phones according to leaks from Bell and Carphone Warehouse:
5" 1920 X 1080 (Pixel) or 5.5" (Pixel XL) 1440 X 2560
Identical other than a larger battery on the XL (3,550 mAh vs 2,770 mAh)
Snapdragon 821
4GB RAM
32 or 128GB
12MP camera with OIS / 8MP selfie camera
SD card slot (questionable - probably a mistake by the carrier)
USB - C / fast charging (obviously)
Headphone Jack
Made by HTC (hopefully with HTC's audio goodies, both speaker and headphone)
Free unlimited full-resolution photo/video cloud storage with Google Photos
Google Allo (smart messaging app) & Duo (video calling like Hangouts) debut
Android 7.1 with new Pixel launcher
Expect price to go up :cry:
So basically no surprises whatsoever :rofl:
Nice to see the flush camera though - that's rare these days.
https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/uploads/cho...ell_leak.0.jpg
https://cnet2.cbsistatic.com/img/Xmf...phone-crop.jpg
A little late to the party but http://www.hightain.com/ will fix just the glass, I like the one above Sun BBQ. They fixed mine and it was pretty good work until i dropped it face down on a gravel alley a few months later :(Quote:
Originally posted by sl888
It is possible to separate the glass from the rest. Probably not recommended but it can be done.
That's huge, and kudos to Google for giving this one away. One thing I don't like about iOS is while their iCloud Photos works really well and gives me access to all my photos anywhere with data/wifi, Apple's Cloud storage plan gets pretty expensive.Quote:
Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Free unlimited full-resolution photo/video cloud storage with Google Photos
Yeah they do it currently, but they cap it at 16MP and it's "High Quality" rather than original. The move to full/original quality is certainly welcome. If you choose "Original" quality right now it just goes against your google data quota, whatever that may be.Quote:
Originally posted by rage2
That's huge, and kudos to Google for giving this one away. One thing I don't like about iOS is while their iCloud Photos works really well and gives me access to all my photos anywhere with data/wifi, Apple's Cloud storage plan gets pretty expensive.
Back of the phone looks so weird. I wonder why only the top part is shiny...selfie mirror? :rofl:
That part is glass, it is for a better signal. I read that in an article somewhere. I wonder if they only did that part to save costs.Quote:
Originally posted by kenny
Back of the phone looks so weird. I wonder why only the top part is shiny...selfie mirror? :rofl:
I'm hoping Super AMOLED means no pentile pixel layout. If so then I might consider it for an upgrade from my N5. However if it doesn't have any water proofing (unlikely), the Axon 7 seems like a better deal.
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I'm going to bet it is more like $699/$799 (XL) CAD, possibly even more. Maybe $599 for the smaller one. There is no way it's going to be $450. Specs are directly in line with, if not above, pretty well every other flagship. The Nexus 5X which was well below the 6P spec was $499 at launch.Quote:
Originally posted by 01RedDX
Specs are on par I guess. If they got the 5" down to $450 I would not hesitate, otherwise I'm not in dire need. Having a 4K out would be nice tho.
Just got my first cardboard, anyone know how to get the magnet to work on the LG G3? Wish I still had my N5 around.
Last time around we did not get a break on the exchange rate, so I would expect a hefty price tag around 25-30% higher than US pricing which is unfortunate.
They are not going for the value route. Pixel will mean guaranteed monthly patches and new OS for at least 3 years.Quote:
Originally posted by GoChris
I'm hoping Super AMOLED means no pentile pixel layout. If so then I might consider it for an upgrade from my N5. However if it doesn't have any water proofing (unlikely), the Axon 7 seems like a better deal.
Now the question is if the Camera has any trick up it's sleeves. I really don't care about the rest if camera sucks.
Anyone else get an OS update offered on the weekend? I'm on Rogers with my Sony Z5, and I updated my device, but I'm not clear on what the update was. I'm still on 6.0.1, and now I have a couple icons with a new look (calendar, mail), main screen can now rotate, and messaging has different colors :dunno:
It was probably the "monthly" security patches. I put it in quotes since Rogers holds them back and you probably only see it a few times a year.
Probably the same or similar to the GS7 camera which is the best available at the moment. I doubt it has any tricks other than OIS, probably just a really solid camera.Quote:
Originally posted by Xtrema
They are not going for the value route. Pixel will mean guaranteed monthly patches and new OS for at least 3 years.
Now the question is if the Camera has any trick up it's sleeves. I really don't care about the rest if camera sucks.
My previous Sony got 1 update in 2 years, Rogers does the bare minimum at best for releasing updates for sure :thumbsdowQuote:
Originally posted by kenny
It was probably the "monthly" security patches. I put it in quotes since Rogers holds them back and you probably only see it a few times a year.
Come on less than 600 dollarsssss :rofl:
Since it is supposed to be flagship quality and specs, I am a little worried, but hopefully it is not $649 USD as expected as I would like to upgrade from my GS6, preferably to the 128gb.
Yeah I think it will be more like 6P pricing, which was flagship quality & specs for $699.Quote:
Originally posted by schocker
Come on less than 600 dollarsssss :rofl:
Since it is supposed to be flagship quality and specs, I am a little worried, but hopefully it is not $649 USD as expected as I would like to upgrade from my GS6, preferably to the 128gb.
Who knows, maybe they will cut us a break on the exchange rate. $649 USD = roughly $849 CAD :cry: They would still be undercutting the iPhone 7 Plus by $200 at that price which is unfortunately probably good enough justification for them haha.
5" one might be $599 or $699...probably $699 and then it stays $200 under the iPhone 7 as well.
I get the monthly security patches on my Nexus 6P on RogersQuote:
Originally posted by kenny
It was probably the "monthly" security patches. I put it in quotes since Rogers holds them back and you probably only see it a few times a year.
Do the heavily skinned Android phones (HTC, LG, Samsung, Sony etc) have monthly security patches? I know that was a big think for Android when the 6P came out.
I thought this was a fake render of the iPhone 7 that was so outdated. :rofl:
Nexus get monthly patches regardless of carrier.Quote:
Originally posted by JustinMCS
I get the monthly security patches on my Nexus 6P on Rogers
Do the heavily skinned Android phones (HTC, LG, Samsung, Sony etc) have monthly security patches? I know that was a big think for Android when the 6P came out.
Everything else requires carrier approval so between the lack of releases from manufacturer and lack of QA from carrier, is why you get only 2 updates a year on other Android phone if you are lucky.
Even Cyanogen only release a stable one every quarter or so, unless you load the nightlies yourself.
I have the Sept 2016 security patches on my S6, but can't speak to the other mfgs. Prior to that I think I was on the July 2016 patches. Nexus devices are always up to date with no delays.Quote:
Originally posted by JustinMCS
I get the monthly security patches on my Nexus 6P on Rogers
Do the heavily skinned Android phones (HTC, LG, Samsung, Sony etc) have monthly security patches? I know that was a big think for Android when the 6P came out.
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I am getting pretty excited still, will likely be buying a chromecast 4k and google home regardless. As long as we get the home in canada...... :)
Would be so crazy if they would do something from left field and announce android pay for Canada.
They did say end of year for Canada! Would be cool.
^^^Yeah, hopefully they meet that. Had been waiting forever also for samsung pay which has been 'coming soon' all year.
Link to the livestream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4y0...ature=youtu.be
woof, pixel starts at $649 USD so hopefully not $899 when it goes up for preorder.
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Looks pretty good. They claim the best camera on any smartphone (according to DXO as well) and the shortest capture time of any smartphone camera. Zero lag HDR as well. Not going to be cheap though :cry: My prediction of $849 CAD is probably at least what they will cost based on US pricing.
$79 USD for the VR headset including remote.
All depends on the exchange rate that google uses. Does google usually a decent exchange and not ripoff exchange like Apple at 1.4?
Google Wifi is nice. $300 for 3 APs. Can't tell if it's wireless only or wireless+wired mesh.
They used 40% for the 6P ($499 USD and $699 CAD), so I don't think they are any better with the exchange rate.
They have been using the apple style exchange since the Nexus 6 iirc. Risky move pricing at the same price as the iphone without including the extra features such as knowing it is built well and water proofing.Quote:
Originally posted by rage2
All depends on the exchange rate that google uses. Does google usually a decent exchange and not ripoff exchange like Apple at 1.4?
Google Wifi is nice. $300 for 3 APs. Can't tell if it's wireless only or wireless+wired mesh.
The wifi looks cool if it includes mesh. Probably worth the extra money though to get the Amplifi based on the fact that they never unlocked any further features of the onhub.
I dunno, from the presentation, it's basically a 1:1 of the iPhone 7 on it's core features. Samsung has already shown that Android users are as willing as Apple users to shell out big bucks, so I don't think it's that risky going straight for the iPhone 7.Quote:
Originally posted by schocker
They have been using the apple style exchange since the Nexus 6 iirc. Risky move pricing at the same price as the iphone without including the extra features such as knowing it is built well and water proofing.
It's 100% mesh. Makes zero sense if it's not. Only question is if it can handled wired backend on the mesh.Quote:
Originally posted by schocker
The wifi looks cool if it includes mesh. Probably worth the extra money though to get the Amplifi based on the fact that they never unlocked any further features of the onhub.
Pixel phones Canadian pricing:
Google Pixel:
32GB: $899 (CAD)
128GB: $1,029 (CAD)
Google Pixel XL:
32GB: $1,049 (CAD)
128GB: $1,179 (CAD)
http://mobilesyrup.com/2016/10/04/go...n-availability
That pricing is insane. I can't see this selling well much like the 6, 6P and 5X before price cuts.
Ordering is up now:
https://store.google.com/config/pixel_phone
VR headset is $99
CC Ultra $90
No google home or google wifi listings. Maybe US only for now.
No dual camera on the XL at the same price as 7S? Bold.
Pricing isn't too much of a surprise. Appears to be as high end of a phone as anything else, and (apparently) the best camera. These aren't Nexus phones anymore. Camera has both laser AF and PDAF.
They are including a USB adapter (C to A) and a USB OTG cable as well.
It looks like they dropped the ball a bit on the camera this time around:Quote:
Originally posted by rage2
No dual camera on the XL at the same price as 7S? Bold.
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/ima...34560965857144
At those prices CDN sales will be terrible.
Google Pixel:
32GB: $899 (CAD)
128GB: $1,029 (CAD)
Google Pixel XL:
32GB: $1,049 (CAD)
128GB: $1,179 (CAD)
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Haha yeah definitely not at cheap as cardboard. Look like it will be $99 in Canada.Quote:
Originally posted by 01RedDX
My $1 Cardboard from China is blowing my mind already. Can't wait for all the new VR stuff to pour out after this. Hope they part out the motion remote! haha
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Sweet, your personal little mesh cloud. :drool: So I guess the OnHub is dead now?
Quote:Has Google officially announced this or was this a conclusion the author is selling as fact?Quote:
Google has officially dismantled its Nexus smartphone lineup to make way for a new era that involves pixels.
This was speculation as far back as July. With no Nexus announcement at this event it's pretty clear Pixel is the replacement.Quote:
Originally posted by D'z Nutz
Has Google officially announced this or was this a conclusion the author is selling as fact?
The only possible Nexus I think is going to be the rumored Nexus 7 replacement made by Huawei. Even that one might be a Pixel though, if the rumors are even true.
Pretty decent presentation by Google. Clearly they're going directly after Apple, and focusing on usability over just pouring over specs and features. More of a Nougat presentation than just on the Pixel. Well, except the headphone jack. :rofl:
Basically on par with context aware Siri (and even better than Siri because of Google's strength in search backend), Homekit/Echo, AppleTV Siri. It just works!
Some details on Google Wifi:
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/4/13...hotos-hands-on
So basically the exact same as the Unifi setup. Disconnects users on an AP to forcibly connect to a stronger AP, and no 802.11r support (hence 150ms handoff time).Quote:
The key, for Google, is that it’s using machine learning in the cloud to optimize the mesh network. Most devices aren’t very good about switching from one access point to a better, closer one on the same network. (iPhones, by the way, are better than most at this, Google tells me). So Google Wifi points keep an eye on what’s connected to them and then force the handoff themselves. Google says it’s targeting transitions that take less than 150 milliseconds, which should be virtually invisible to the user.