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At 35 I guess it is time to finally buy a couch not from Ikea or Kijiji. Im looking at a decent sectional, cost around $2100. I've heard that you can negotiate at the Brick. Im wondering if the same can be said of Leon's? They opened a new mega-store at Crossiron which we're thinking we will hit up. If you can still haggle, how much is right? Are we talking Dodge / Mattress prices or save the GST sort of thing.
We got an additional $200 off a couch we bought on boxing day a few years ago from Leons. It was originally like 1200, was listed for 800 and we paid 600 + tax. They seemed really keen to get rid of it at the time. So it may depend on timing. I have negotiated similar at lay z boy as well.
The idea that Leon's is higher quality than Ikea is laughable.
100p. The difference is you don't have to put anything together yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by ExtraSlow
You have to get some particular brand names of furniture to get better quality, and the prices are much higher.
Leon's used to have what they called "integrity pricing" which was a fancy way of saying zero haggling.
Not sure, now.
The Brick will give you massive discounts but you have to put up with the most grotesque, high pressure sales bullshit in the industry.
definitely don't buy anything at the brick.. ever.
Leons is the same shit, but it's a little easier to pass.
Leons owns the Brick.Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtsniffer
I would pass on both.
Interesting I didn't know this. Don't get me wrong I didn't expect the best in the biz sort of thing but I hadn't realized they were on par with Ikea. We're also looking at Wayfair. Maybe we will stick to those.
I echo everyone here.
Brick = Cheap in price, will give deep discounts, but cheap products. I have had nothing last more than 5 years. Bonus is, if you do get the extended warranty here, its a 99% chance you will get a good chunk of money back if you make a claim. Everything i have bought, they ask for pictures and credit me 80% of the cost of the furniture.
Leons = Marginally better quality but no haggling. The price is the price. Much less sales sleeze because of this though so its a better experiance.
My recommendation if you want lower cost big box furniture, check out ashleys. They are more expensive but MUCH better quality. They will haggle a bit on some things like warranty or delivery.
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I don't know one person including myself that has bought something off of wayfair and had it not damaged in shipping. Its a pain for sure. They will fix it or credit it but the process is painfull.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cosworth
Damn they actually have almost the same couch for $200 less than Ikea. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by spike98
I have a pathological hatred for sales tactics, so I'd buy at Ikea even if it cost more. Unless I was looking for something unique that was only available at one of those other stores for some reason.
Also, I'm not saying Ikea is awesome quality, just that it's no worse than the other "big box" type stores, all similar level ( or lack) of craftsmanship.
Do you have 19 weeks to wait for it? That's where Ashley's often punishes you.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cosworth
I got my couches from EQ3
Just go to restoration hardware like 89coupe would
Not much to add, other than this makes me miss nordesign. We have a bunch of furniture from there, and it was almost the perfect happy medium between big box and high end (price and quality).
+1 for checking out Eq3. For online, I'd recommend checking out Article. Their stuff is higher quality than wayfair (albeit more money as well). A buddy of mine got a sectional from there and raves about it.
Cos, just come down to the furniture district (Deerfoot Meadows and area) and check out a dozen stores at once.
You'll get a good feel for prices and quality.
I liked Ashley's better than the Brick. Also for some reason 'furniture extreme' locally seems to sell Ashleys products, I bought the same identical bed set there for a few hundred less. Not sure if its just a sub-brand or they use the same distributor but I basically picked everything out at Ashleys then went over and ordered through them instead.Quote:
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My problem with Ikea is I've yet to sit on an Ikea couch and be like 'wow this is so comfy'. So many of them are just so firm and look nice but lack comfort.Quote:
Originally Posted by ExtraSlow
costco
Be careful, sometimes you order an expensive cabinet and a kid arrives knocking on your door.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cosworth
You should try Revolve - they are usually willing to move a little bit..
Revolve is terrible quality for the price they charge. Most of their items look great and modern but do not last because its all made in China....never again.
Pretty much everything under $5g is from China. Fuck, even my $5500 Natuzzi sectional is from China (and a piece of shit I might add)Quote:
Originally Posted by G
Damn!! We got a leather sectional from Revolve, so far its been good :dunno: and the Natuzzi we got from F3 isn't that bad either, maybe I am not as particular. What is wrong with your Natuzzi??
If you want quality then you want to find manufactured in Canada or US. There are a few retailers that sell that like EQ3 but break out the wallet.
We have a couch made in the US, structurally it's excellent, upholstery is wearing due to small kids. But it is the type of furniture you re-upholster. Regret not doing leather at the time.
Check EQ3. Around this time of the year depending on how much you spend they have sales (10% to 15% Off).
We have a sectional and couple of chairs from them. They are pretty decent quality.
I found some really nice and comfortable sectionals at sofa land at deerfoot meadows. I'd never been in there before, and it is a bit more expensive than the brick, but what seems to be way better quality.
Don't count them out just because it sounds like a thrift store lol its actually pretty good
None of the backs were the same heights on the sections. They replaced the worst one, but it's still very visible if the back isn't against the wall. They refused to replace or repair them all so they align. Also both the back cushions and bottom cushions of each piece varied wildly in firmness from the beginning.Quote:
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I will say the leather has held up amazingly though after a decade of use.
def recommended if you find something you likeQuote:
Originally Posted by dirtsniffer
+1 for Sofaland by the deerfoot meadows Costco. Baygirl and I bought our huge sectional there. Yes, came from China, but the build quality is half decent and the prices are comparable to the Brick and Leons, and even a bit cheaper for the sectional we bought. I mean, it's not high end by any stretch of the imagination, but we have had it 4 years now, and it is holding up REALLY well. We had to order ours, but it was pretty painless, and took like 2 weeks. They offer delivery, but I opted to just pick it up right from their warehouse when it arrived.Quote:
Originally Posted by 03ozwhip
This! ...and if you are getting "leather" be careful. That term is very misleading.Quote:
Originally Posted by ExtraSlow
Exactly. Revolve was a good store when they firat opened up but they eventually switched to importing from China. They saved a lot of money (scarified quality) but never really lowered their prices. Last time I was down near their store by Deerfoot, they had a sign saying they were going out of business but I think they employ the same marketing scheme as the electronics store in The Zohan.
I have a couch on order from Structube. It looked decent enough in the showroom for what you pay. Most of their stuff comes out of Quebec.
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Other good manufacturers to check out are BlueDot and West Elm.
Thanks for all the advice everyone. Now Im petrified to buy anything. Haha. Half kidding, I have found something we like at Ashley although the details of delivery and quality sound concerning. Ikea doesn't have anything quite like I want / comfort wise. Not sure why but I rarely find something comfortable there. Im checking out structube now and seems decent actually.
Have you looked at Urban Barn? Both times I have done the full gamut of research & shopping and going to every store in the furniture district I ended up buying from them. They often have 15% off custom furniture too. Most of their stuff is made in Vancouver and it's built like a tank with good warranty. They have lots of sectionals in the ~$2500 range.
Went through university with several Ikea couches and they were all very average in quality but the prices also reflected that so no complaints there. We then bought a sofa from EQ3 and we were really happy with it. Survived quite a few years of heavy use and ultimately sold it because it doesn't work in our new house.
We now have one from The Bay that we were able to negotiate the price on slightly (ended up 55% off listed price, but the list price probably doesn't mean much) and it's been solid after 3 years. We also bought a new one from Pottery Barn that one is even better. Still feels like the day we got it. Pretty impressed with it.
Adding to other's comments, my in-law got one from Revolve and it's an absolute POS. It looks like a 15 year old couch after maybe just 3 years. They would've been better off buying one from Ikea.
I feel like Ikeas quality has actually been getting worse with time. I still buy things there because cheap, but I’m less and less satisfied with it over time.
Interesting to see the Revolve hate. The only thing I've bought from Revolve is a table & chairs that are made in Quebec and the quality is outstanding, but I can't comment on their couches. I think they have multiple furniture sources so you just need to consider each item individually and see where it's made, etc.
Structube quality isn’t great, they just copy designs and make it cheaper. Ashley wasn’t bad, ordered a piece rom there, delivery time was about 2 weeks and no issues.
Alright, I had no idea there was so many choices in drop-shipping chinese furniture. For us Im looking for that $1000 - $1500 range. We have 2 toddlers and dogs. I don't want to be worried about it so I'd rather it be cheap enough that a scratch or two doesn't matter. These are pretty much our style:
https://www.structube.com/en/roger-l...0-57?pid=26678
https://www.structube.com/en/campbel...7-03?pid=27918
https://ashleyhomestore.ca/products/...-laf-sectional
I've cross shopped what was discussed:
- Ikea - out of stock and not 100% perfect
- Structube - Almost 100% what I like, not quite, better price. 2021 delivery.
- Ashley - Almost 100% what I like, different, bit more in price & delivery. Later December delivery. Has price protection apparently if it goes on sale on Black Friday.
- Urban Barn / Pottery Barn / EQ3 /West Elm - Too nice / much $$ for what we're looking at.
- Costco - nothing quite that we want.
- Bluedot - not our style
- FurnitureExtreme - Has a few pieces similar to what we like with Ashley but not on sale.
So Im tied between Ashley and Structube I guess. Both have spotty online reviews but frankly Im not expecting perfection here. Thoughts on the two?
This is the one we have right now from The Bay, which is similar in style to what you are looking at. Nothing too fancy because we also have a dog and a toddler so we are prepared for it to be abused. 3+ years so far and still in good shape.
https://www.thebay.com/product/kode-..._color=MASTONE
It was ~$1500 + $75 shipping + bonus Bay points when we got it but I guess it is more expensive now and a little over your budget, but the power recline + USB charging outlet is a really nice touch, and the dog loves hanging out on top of the headrest since it can lay flat. Maybe it's cheaper in-store?
The back seems really low on that one. Is it as bad as it looks in person? I don't like those back-rests that are half or 3/4 height.Quote:
Originally Posted by RX_EVOLV
well the backrest can be lifted and adjusted. At full length it's over my head
I know they have one on display at the Market Mall location if you want to try it in-person. Saw it as recently as a week ago.
Meh, I bought a sectional from the Brick a couple of years ago. It's been fine. It was on sale. I had leather couches from Lane that lasted about 11 years. I could've gotten them re-leathered as the cushions and springs themselves were still fine.
low back couches are literally the worst.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tk2uG4oB3Q
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Originally Posted by dirtsniffer
Let's not forget Made In America!